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[\]: probably talked about it
DiabloD3: didnt they ALREADY launch it?
ozbot: Once again the Winklevoss twins get beaten to launching their big idea: a bitcoin trust – Quartz
[\]: losing money by the minute
jurov: 139.58 mio bets < that's 30 days or what?
kakobrekla: right out the oven.
mircea_popescu: o hey nice. is that new ?
kakobrekla: been kinda fun to follow jd and drama
mircea_popescu: jurov : let me point out that your brilliant idea with the tracking made my life a lot easier at this juncture.
jurov: yes, thanks...with more details than i expected
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for the update.
Ukyo: ouch, sucks. good luck with that
ozbot: MPEx security breach pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jurov: i know, i'm doing similar research... but here at least it looks close to some conclusion
Graet: real worl moves at real world speed, unlike bitcoin that lives in accelerated time
jurov: so these meetings did not eve take place yet?
jurov: Ukyo: do you have any time frame with this? it seems you are waiting with api for something
[\]: well, supposedly glbse was too at one point
Graet: one unique thing about bf is it is attempting to be legal, most others seem to ignore that bit
Ukyo: And I do not believe the corporation location has anything to do with BTCT
[\]: Ukyo: I ask because I thought bf was a belize corp too, no?
[\]: what prevents bitfunder from going the way ot btctc?
mircea_popescu: i guess it isn't quite as new as i thought :)
dexX7: but anyway, even more impressive then
jurov: sadly it is not widely used. i reused some code from electrum and found out it did not suppport signing messages longer than 252 chars
thestringpuller: If you don't like to party then yo' ass got to go
jurov: and how burnside "discovered" it once he got into trouble :)
dexX7: it's so cool what you can do with those "mechanics". i was surprised how mpex uses gpg signed messages to proceed orders and i played a bit to create a btc signature based login system. i bet this is not new, but still impressive :)
dexX7: it's the one with @test.com
jurov: you tested it? i got some bogus request :)
dexX7: jurov: k, i sent kate (issuer of ciphermine) an email. thanks for your offer. :)
jurov: yes... the form fields can be changed no problem
dexX7: so i guess - in theory - you could offer the same service for havelock, too?
jurov: and you will know all the users authenticated themselvas properly
jurov: you will csv who will want to transfer where to bitfunder
jurov: no, it's just to help you with collection of data
dexX7: jurov: how would that work? i guess ciphermine would need to transfer their shares on bitfunder to one of your accounts and users/shareholders would need to sign a message on coinbr to claim their shares and you'd then use the internal transfer on bitfunder to distribute the shares?
dexX7: thanks, i'll forward this. support@coinbr.com is the best way to contact you?
jurov: yes, if you need any information from shareholders , it's simple form where they authenticate using btc signature
pankkake: so… it will have to wait
Apocalyptic: and the fucking EU-only list... keeps me out
dexX7: you can set the public withdrawal address under "account" - "settings"
dexX7: this address would be used to identify you as shareholder after btct has been shut dowwn
dexX7: this step is necessary to do _anything on btct now
dexX7: you need to set your public withdrawal address
kakobrekla: how much of the neobee sold
dexX7: can you make a screenshot of this page?
the20year1: I never made any trades
dexX7: nothing? for me it shows trades that i made
the20year1: there's nothing there outside of the withdrawl of 3btc to one of my other wallets
the20year1: that was the max i could withdrawl a few motnhs ago, and I was able to do it
the20year1: No shares purchased, no other activity, top of screen shows a balance of 1.9995btc, yet wallet shows balance of 0btc
dexX7: another website that uses highcharts.com >.<
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 20.96361960 BTC to 250`761 shares, 8360 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 12.62738295 BTC to 1`435 shares, 879957 satoshi per share
dexX7: the20year1: also click on "refresh" right to your account balance in your wallet
benkay: i'm very interested to hear more about this breach
dexX7: please go to "wallet" - "withdrawal history" and check
dexX7: that's odd. was the missing amount withdrawaled?
the20year1: shows a balance of 1.9995 on the top of my screen, but in my wallet it shows 0 ballance
the20year1: well that's odd, it set a different permanant withdrawl address
jurov: yes today he was quick on btctalk, maybe still is on
jurov: mircea_popescu: so it's trading now? won't be any reverts?
mircea_popescu: by the person in charge of that.
mircea_popescu: well these things are reported to the fbi as a matter of course, but i don't know if they ever do anything.
mircea_popescu: anyway, fact #1 : attacker failed to obtain any btc for his trouble. he did try to, but it was caught.
jurov: thestringpuller:afaik the servers are in america, not in romania
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is romania in the EU?
mircea_popescu: mkay. too soon to say for certain, but it seems a bunch of fake trades were reported. im putting a two hour hold on trades of s.mpoe and s.bbet.
fupafooder: But I am nothing to do with said breach..
fupafooder: Woah. I believe I was the only to ask that question
kakobrekla: so theres a breach, shares get sold and some dude asks how long the withdrawal takes... http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#331320
mircea_popescu: the plot thickens. apparently there was a breach of some sort.
mod6: I think assbot was out of the office when those trades happened.
mod6: someone sold >2M of S.MPOE too :)
BigBitz: I'm /almost/ certain they had USD when they "went live" few weeks ago.
Apocalyptic: they really did that Biggy ?
BigBitz: So legally compliant they had to remove their USD Market :>
kakobrekla: Kraken is the world's first robust, technologically sophisticated, legally compliant Bitcoin trading platform. Right now we're years ahead of the competition and full of shit.
fupafooder: Like an average time
fupafooder: How long should i expect to wait for my withdrawal to process?
mod6: either someone fat-fingered or that lame troll finally shorted it like he said he was gonna.
FabianB_: picket some too, but who was the lucky one at 10 satoshi?
kakobrekla: 10 trades executed, started with 50000 satoshi per share ended with 10 satoshi per share with 974913 shares at that price
ozbot: BitBet - Mt. Gox to have < 50% trade volume before September
pankkake: but there's a bet on volume too?
dexX7: to my understanding the volume of bitstamp needs to be higher than gox at any point prior dec 31st. how can you use the pie chart (which only shows a snapshot of "now") anyway, when you need to take historical data (= the complete timespan from now till dec 31st) in consideration?
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/537/bitstampusd-will-trade-at-a-higher-price-than/#c1469
dexX7: ThickAsThieves: a guess where most of the am shares will land?
ozbot: Data Broker Giants Hacked by ID Theft Service — Krebs on Security
kleeck: Where was this breach?
jcpham: they don't even know what was taken
jcpham: "All three victim companies said they are working with federal authorities and third-party forensics firms in the early stages of determining how far the breaches extend, and whether indeed any sensitive information was accessed and exfiltrated from their networks."
kakobrekla: so they do lose out
kakobrekla: >Cost per chip for the first 5000 chips in this batch will be 0.08. The cost for the second 5000 chips will be 0.09.
kakobrekla: anyone know what was paid for those originally?
kakobrekla: >>I sent out refunds for all who have claimed them about two minutes ago. The refunded amount is in proportion to the amount Avalon refunded me, therefore, BTC782.1/10000 chips = BTC0.07821 refunded per chip.
DiabloD3: I knew trhat was going to happen
ozbot: Data Broker Giants Hacked by ID Theft Service — Krebs on Security
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