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pankkake: I guess. it's not very good to bring new users though
kakobrekla: i think it would vastly improve the odds of acceptance
kakobrekla: pankkake maybe try to talk to mp before submiting it
Vexual: an imperial fuck tonne of coins might be locked up for a while
ozbot: BitBet - Exchange currency volume to be at least 25% CNY before 2014
pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/533/exchange-currency-volume-to-be-at-least-25/ that bet is stupid, it's actually "CNY exchanges will get listed on bitcoincharts"
dexX7: kakobrekla: oh that's a neat interpretation
Diablo-D3: then dont bet on them
pankkake: I'm not very happy with the contents of some bets
dexX7: it's sad though. the bet has potential
pankkake: still, try again dexX7 :)
pankkake: I'd do that, but I have deleted my account again
dexX7: they say there were several incarnations of dpr
kakobrekla: point them to bbet
kakobrekla: hey i dont run the thing
pankkake: kakobrekla: time to do the double spend you always wanted to do!
pankkake: gmaxwell> tgs3: not the first time, certantly not the last.
Vexual: yep, thats at 240th
Kleeck_: thanks for that freshcoin - the crowd is cold.
Diablo-D3: yeah, I think gmaxwell just needs to step down
ozbot: Dilbert comic strip for 10/02/2013 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive.
pankkake: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-10-02/ relevant to bitcoin "entrepreneurs"
Diablo-D3: I wonder if its time to launch DMC 2.0 sometime in the next 3 months
Vexual: paperwallet and hole in the ground associates
lolstate: There is now a #neobee IRC channel if anyone you would like to join us
dub: had plenty of people suggest hiding miners around the multitude of places I could
jurov: lol i remembered we were thinking here about installing clandestine miners to trolleybuses
jurov: but they have cameras inside so not trivial
jurov: or there are public transport buses wit wifi running around.. just hack them for power somehow
pankkake: the hardest is to have both internet and power
pankkake: jurov: I hope it will be common in the future. even as simple relays
jborkl: it would be easier to hide raspberry pis all over at places with free wifi, no one would ever see them
jurov: but i don't really have an use for that
pankkake: that doesn't make much sense. who does the escrow?
jurov: i toyed with idea to hide small solar-powered computer in some place with public wifi
mjoiii: rewrite it to be distributed?
pankkake: I guess a seller would be the most knowledgeable
pankkake: so I don't really have the experience to rewrite the thing
jurov: from that follows we'll never have sufficiently secure sr-like service
kakobrekla: just be sure to leave your gmail here first
kakobrekla: well seems you are ready to rock
pankkake: eh, it's better to have 80% uptime that 0% eventually
kakobrekla: "oh man a mosquito rm -rfed my silk road for the third time this week!"
pankkake: no passwords, only physical tokens
pankkake: and then, the physical security
mjoiii: i mean that can offer protection
pankkake: I wonder if combining tor and i2p is doable
mjoiii: the only layers seems to be political
pankkake: well, I'd certainly try to put multiple layers (hehe) of security
jurov: "idea be to string the various tiers across multiple countries"oh nobody does it, perhaps except me
kakobrekla: also the global temps are down
mjoiii: wouldn't the idea be to string the various tiers across multiple countries?
dub: ikr, has anyone even seen a chemtrail this week?
jurov: pankkake, or host from internet cafe 150m away..just to be safe, yeah
pankkake: or simply, host at home. silk road wouldn't require that much bandwith
pankkake: if you rent the bay, maybe you can booby trap it
dub: even smalltown pedo LE types have shit to sieze or image running machines
kakobrekla: unfortunatley they have just taken it down!
jurov: i was under impression they just subpoenaed colo provider and imaged the machine via network using some 0day
dub: so you cant snarf the rf
pankkake: kakobrekla: yes, unless they're too late
kakobrekla: mjoiii this basically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack
mjoiii: trying to understand... how optical? keyboard for example.
kakobrekla: you can cool down ram and move it to another location / machine and read it
pankkake: CRT monitors were easy to spy on
dub: even back then all your peripherals, monitor, keyboard etc was hooked up opticaly
dub: I have a buddy that designed a bunch of govt security shit
dub: look at the waaaaves brah
pankkake: and even then, there are full-whatever UPSes that would probably kill it
kakobrekla: with trollvision glasses
mjoiii: directly through the lines or from the waves coming off them?
dub: they could in the 80's
dub: they can read ram through the power lines
mjoiii: so that was an .onion too, i didn't know
mjoiii: would this be the first occurrence of a tor site being taken down?
mjoiii: i would have thought dpr would be way the hell away from the US
pankkake: http://openpgpjs.org/ is useful to force even noobs to use gpg
pankkake: looks like I'm the only one competent and paranoid enough to run the new silk road. brb
pankkake: oh, I mean that's what *should* be done - not what was done
mjoiii: then how'd they image it back in jul?
pankkake: yes, that's what I meant
pankkake: you can read ram through walls?
mjoiii: pankkake: so they'd image it by remote?
pankkake: Diablo-D3: there are ways around that. like hosting it in a physically controlled location
Diablo-D3: they most likely pulled the key out of ram before shutting it down
Diablo-D3: pankkake: that wouldnt really do much
pankkake: I hope the server was encrypted…
mjoiii: they left it running since july when they imaged it
dub: standard FBI MO would be to leave it running
Diablo-D3: sometimes the FBI is competent
dub: I'm shocked that it even went down
Diablo-D3: dub: how does it get resolved? the site comes back online tommorow
pankkake: the "dpr tried to hire a hitman" is fishy, though
dub: how the fuck does that get resolved?
pankkake: thanks to dexX7 trolling reddit
mircea_popescu: shit tha matters.
kakobrekla: lol theres bets on this thing http://bitbet.us/bet/542/the-fbi-were-had/
dub: As we look at the situation in the security arena. we see an awful lot of big companies . Fortune 100-level companies . with, to be perfectly candid, appalling security. They have fundamentally no idea what they.re doing,
mjoiii: does anyone remember it being there in the past?
mjoiii: I don't remember seeing the word "hidden" in this notice before