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dexX7: product company first, rather
than a base for Bitcoin distribution."
dexX7: "The concept
the selling of shares is blurring a legal line, especially in
the US. We are not sure if
that model is possible within our boundaries.
There is also
the issue regarding dealing with Bitcoin and converting
to cash,
thus becoming a money service. We do not want
to be in any grey area, and we want
to be clear with our business model.
The goal of CoinTerra is
to be a hardware
nejon: anyway even if
the ipo is legit
then
there is still
the
thing about cointerra delivering something :)
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nejon: and 7th is
the deadline
nejon: dexX7
the shares will be put up for sale when
the ipo is closed
nejon: and why ruin
the reputation
nejon: I'm just
trying
to find out if
this is legit
dexX7: but
the issuer hasn't put up shares for sale
dexX7: no asks, no
trades, no volume
dexX7: so, maybe i just don't see it. when does
the ipo start?
nejon: you can see
the info on
that account
nejon: he was one of
the main investors in bitfury
too
nejon: dexX7 I
think leszek is
the main guy
nejon: what do you know about
the legal issues?
pankkake: so
they certainly would not show it on picostocks
then
nejon: I
think
they wouldn't announce
nejon: picostocks has
that option
nejon: and ipo fee might have been paid with bank
transfer
too
dexX7: ipo creator -> picostocks
transit -> x
dexX7: maybe it's just a
transit address
nejon: quite a lot of bitcoins on
that account
dexX7: rephrased: not
this account payed
the fee, but
the fee was payed from
the same address
ozbot: PicoStocks : 1BASfHfaxhR3tb1HpHqiLBkSxPnc4A7AYn : User's Bitcoin
transfer log
nejon: so it's impossible
to scam if
the owner of
the exchange is not involved
nejon: withdraw
the asset. In such case all investments in bids for
the shares of
this asset will be returned
to
the investors."
nejon: "If You accept
the IPO evaluation You can close it at a selected price. After
this You have 2 weeks
to sign
the sales contract with PicoStocks and submit
the signed documents
to
the IPO office. If You miss
this deadline
the IPO will be canceled (the asset will be withdrawn from
the system). You can also cancel
the IPO any
time yourself if You are not satisfied with
the results and
dexX7: sure, but all it needs is a word from cointerra
to end it
VanCleef: gotta spend money
to scam money
dexX7: it's strange, because i wouldn't expect a scammer pay 50 btc for something
that could be busted within a few minutes
pankkake: 50 btc
to list on picostocks?!
nejon: what is strange about
that?
ozbot: Bitcoin
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dexX7: right now
trading hasn't started yet on picostocks
nejon: I'm sure he is in
the know
nejon: maybe you should ask
the support guy about
that form
too..
pankkake: The reader should not assume
that
the information is accurate and complete.
pankkake: The Securities and Exchange Commission has not necessarily reviewed
the information in
this filing and has not determined if it is accurate and complete.
dexX7: so what's
the story behind
this sec form?
nejon: anyway I would find it strange if bitfury
team member was involved in scam like
that
pankkake: nejon: at
that point, I'm starting
to
think you're
the scammer behind it
nejon: maybe you should spend more
than 5min
too
pankkake: and also would spend
the 5 min required
to see if it's legit
dexX7: ukyo spends a lot of coins for lawyers
to make bf more legit
nejon: and
that would make a difference :D
nejon: what
they should use
then?
nejon: yes because he knows
they are selling machines
pankkake: yes, 1) why picostocks 2) why no announcement before actual ipo 3)
the support guy didn't say i don't know, he said no stock selling
dexX7: nothing against picostocks
though
dexX7: why should
they use picostocks lol
nejon: are
they supposed
to know everything
nejon: not sure if I should even
trust some guy on support
pankkake: (not
that you should
trust screenshots)
pankkake: there's a screenshot of
the support
ticket somewhere
dexX7: but what you posted.. what does
that actually mean?
pankkake: from what I understand of cointerra,
they do not want
to
touch bitcoin at all
nejon: how is
that confirmed?
pankkake: if you ignore
the hair, somewhat
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dexX7: ThickAsThieves: do you have a copy of am's latest statement made by
the board? could you put it on pastebin or so?
pankkake: those guys are still deluding
themselves
pankkake: [03:13] <samuel_jackson>
to
take over
the company form
the scammers
pankkake: [03:13] <samuel_jackson> we'll put motion up as soon as
the board is up
mircea_popescu: without being able
to actually confront
the fact
that looky how fucking retarded we are.
mircea_popescu: because it's really impossible it be
the case
that
the redditard generation is quite fucking stupid enough
to do something on sept 30th and
the exact oposite on oct 5
pankkake: he just wanted
to play with you
mircea_popescu: now whether it was really sam/alesia/theswede/whoever
the fuck else
that came here
to bitch under
that nick.... who cares.
mircea_popescu: on
the face of what he said,
the former would seem
to be rather
the case.
mircea_popescu: we are discussing if
this guy was actually paid by / working for labcoin or simply
trolling.
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing whether
this guy is or is not X random person irl.
dexX7: according
to
the messages he was scammed by
them,
too and he seems
to be a nice guy :)
dexX7: so how likely is it
that
this guy surprisingly appears on irc
to mock labcoiners?
dexX7: 1.
those quotes are from user "labcoin" (persona "sam" which is actually alessia), 2. howard/zhenhua wang is external and was hired by labcoin
to create an asic, 3. wang never appeared on
the forums/irc
dexX7: just
to underline
that
this is not
the guy who wrote
the message
dexX7: hm? i'm just saying
that "zhenhua_wang" has probably no connection
to
the "real" labcoin
team
mircea_popescu: dexX7 anyway, it's common for pr
to repeat
the official line. -pr quotes me all
the
time.
mircea_popescu: some emo chick
that doesn't wash ironically is still an slovenly slut.
pankkake: labcoin is
trolling itself so yes
dexX7: zhenhua_wang =
the guy who wrote
the message which is on pastebin. he never was here on irc.
pankkake: quoting real
things labcoin said
though
mircea_popescu: no, he came here because i went over on
their chan for lolz.
dexX7: the original quote is from labcoin made on
the forum
dexX7: is
this from
the log?
mircea_popescu: Sep 30 22:27:12 <zhenhua_wang>once again we advise all investors
to buy shares while
they are cheap, We are confident in fact
that
the price will raise
tenfold in respect
to IPO
mircea_popescu: tho after his utter failure
to rehabilitate
that nick with his "vanity
thread" etc i suppose it's not surprising he just let it drop.