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nubbins`: you're
telling me
that in romania, an mp can rent a van and drive it
through a crowd of people, killing indiscriminately, and he cannot be arrested?
nubbins`: "This is in accordance with
the principle laid down by
the British House of Commons in a conference with
the House of Lords in 1641"
nubbins`: since
time immemorial, apparently
nubbins`: "If Members are charged with infractions of
the law,
then
they must abide by
the due process of law just like any other citizen.
To do otherwise would be contemptuous of
the justice system."
nubbins`: and, in fact, an MP would have
to attend a hearing for a
traffic violation
nubbins`: ok, it says right here
that parliamentary privilege only covers your actions in your capacity as an MP
mircea_popescu: maybe my memory is confused and common law never had
that priviledge,
mod6: There is no immunity from arrest on criminal grounds, nor does
the civil privilege entirely extend
to
the devolved administrations in Scotland or Wales.
mod6: It also means
that members of Parliament cannot be arrested on civil matters for statements made or acts undertaken as an MP within
the grounds of
the Palace of Westminster, on
the condition
that such statements or acts occur as part of a proceeding in Parliament—for example, as a question
to
the Prime Minister in
the House of Commons.
nubbins`: "Any incident of a criminal nature in which a Member has been charged is not a matter where immunity from arrest will protect
that Member."
mod6: well if
they were arrested at some drilling site, maybe
they were
tresspassing
nubbins`: if he stabs you,
tough shit for him
nubbins`: so if an mp slanders you,
tough shit
nubbins`: civil process and does not interfere with
the administration of criminal justice."
nubbins`: "Freedom from arrest in civil actions is
the oldest privilege of
the House of Commons, pre‑dating freedom of speech in
the United Kingdom.[191]
The immunity exists because
the House has
the pre‑eminent claim
to
the attendance and service of its Members, free from restraint or intimidation particularly by means of legal arrest in civil process. It has only applied
to arrest and imprisonment unde
nubbins`: i was confusing
that with parliamentary privilege
mircea_popescu: "Members of parliament may be arrested or otherwise deprived of
their freedom, or face restrictions
thereof, only with
the permission of
the desk of
their assembly. "
nubbins`: i wonder if
this applies
to canadia
mircea_popescu: but
the only way
to arrest a mp is
to get permission from
the respective parliament
nubbins`: "A British lawmaker was among more
than
two dozen people arrested Monday at a protest against shale gas extraction in southern England."
mircea_popescu: sure, if
there's a brawl
the police will come in and knock people over heads.
mircea_popescu: "Caroline Lucas, Britain’s only Green Party member in Parliament, was led away by police from a sit-in at
the gates of a drilling site near
the village of Balcombe and put in a police van."
nubbins`: TBF
that last one was in a foreign country
mircea_popescu: Eight members of Congress were arrested during a
Tuesday immigration rally on Washington, D.C.’s National Mall.
nubbins`: & figured i'd waste everyone's
time in here
nubbins`: started
thinking about
the fund operator running
the equivalent of a mining pool and putting limitations on gh/s per shareholder etc etc
nubbins`: and
the whole
thing kinda fell apart around
that point
nubbins`: the problem is
that
the smaller
the fund,
the greater
the risk of a 51% attack
nubbins`: but i don't
think it'd work in practice
nubbins`: i had some sort of idea about proof of work being required
to post a bid/ask
kakobrekla: if you are luke, nobody has
to know you are doing it with others hash power
too
nubbins`: all
the shares
that will exist are created at ipo
kakobrekla: like its 1 address per bitcoin user except
that its not
nubbins`: sorry, i had all
this written down somewhere but lost it
kakobrekla: 1 btc would equal
to 100000000 shares, you can have it on a single addy
nubbins`: with
the idea being
that each satoshi represents 1 share
nubbins`: none of
this coloured coin stuff, but an actual separate blockchain altogether
nubbins`: so anyway, i was wondering if any of you could recall an occasion where people created a new blockchain for
the express purpose of keeping
track of share ownership
pankkake: many people should not reproduce
too (because bad gene combinations), but society
thinks sex is ok
nubbins`: they
tried 2 and it didn't work
pankkake: nubbins`: well yes, but
the
taboo is about sex, not having children
mircea_popescu: to quote some guy on some irc channel, "the island where i live had
two moose couples introduced. now
there's 150k of
them"
nubbins`: i was always under
the impression
that any product of such union would be a horrible mess of recessive genetic defects brought
to life
pankkake: I have no sister, but I never understood
the incest
taboo
pankkake: I don't
think I know any romanian pornstar
pankkake: oh it seems
to be highcharts
too
dexX7: i bet it's funnier, if you understand what
they say
dexX7: maybe
this is a good
time
to build a proper frontend for mpex
mircea_popescu: it'd seem
ThickAsThieves gets his first real
taste of bitcoin business sudden rush of wtfomg
these days.
Lennix1: hey
TAT, given
the current situation, you might
think about offering
those who are
transferring
their shares
to BF
to change
their destination
to HL
mod6: unless
that means
the same
thing
mod6: no, at least, not
that i know of. an error on my part.
the 'bitcoin consultancy'
mod6: haha, bitcoinica
too i guess.
mod6: oh maybe he wasnt with
the foundation, just
the 'bitcoin consultancy' or whatever.
mircea_popescu: so i use some random online service. it does w/e well. i shoot
the guy an email asking for his bitcoin addy because i want
to send him some cents as encouragement.
mircea_popescu: mod6 you know... peopel announcing other people
teamed up with
them is scarcely usavble
to impugn
those other people.
mircea_popescu: <Jere_Jones> I'm not sure I'd care
to pay
the 30BTC fee
to have an account on MPEx. << yuou can just use a borker.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves>
the irony here being
that I planned
to
take mp aside
to discuss
the possibility of such
things BEFORE
they happened... << don't worry, it's how it works. I had made plans back in january and announced ppl about my conference last year, so as
to make it BEFORE BTCprice went up. scheduled it for april, asshole btc went up in march.
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mod6: so i kinda
thought Cody Wilson was awesome until he
teamed up with
Taaki
ozbot: Future Block | Bet on
the Bitcoin Hash Rate
jurov: lol... having 0.1 withdrawal fee is enough. but
that one will likely change as bitcoin goes up
jurov: we did not yet even consider asking interest on
them :)
dub: cool cool, just checking I wont get punted or have stuff liquidated
to cover
dub: jurov:
that reminds me, whats
teh grace period for funding a negative account?
jurov: no, if you sell/withdraw everything
then no monthly fee is asked
Jere_Jones: The fee doesn't sound
that bad in
that context.
Jere_Jones: My wife and I were just discussing moving back
to Spain.