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mircea_popescu: also much better scp than scp.
mircea_popescu: mike_c i think so.
mircea_popescu: this is a frontline itam. you go into enemy territory with it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, we'll get a better idea as to how reliable the things are after they've been in the wild a year or two. atm all i can say is they should be pretty reliable.
mike_c: the cardano should backup the private key to the cloud.
mircea_popescu: well yes, using a device of this type for that purpose seems like you're asking for trouble.
kakobrekla: if the device breaks
Namworld: If the cardano breaks, you're out of shares and need to pay for a new account.
kakobrekla: no way to have backup to mpex acc then
mircea_popescu: you can as long as you reg it there.
Namworld: Well I suppose that could work
mircea_popescu: it can be, sure, but if you don't trust it you can just use it as a sub to your main key which you keep traditionally.
mircea_popescu: Namworld master doesn't have to be a cardano necessarily.
Namworld: What if the master cardano breaks?
kakobrekla: and i want to keep that backup
mircea_popescu: sorta use the cardano as a subbie in that context.
mircea_popescu: i think the better solution is to use a master and sign a cardano for the move.
Namworld: And keep the Cardano while on the move
mircea_popescu: one problem i see with this directly is that people will keep insecure copies and then go "o noes someone hacked my cardano and stole my key!11"
Namworld: So he can keep using it/store it/transfer it to a replacement device
kakobrekla: i just want to define it
kakobrekla: its not that i want to keep it
mircea_popescu: why's your key so great you want to keep it anyway ? i bet you it wasn't gen'd on hardware rngs for instance.
kakobrekla: id live with the fact someone can replace it
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kakobrekla: i miss the option of forcing my own key innit
mircea_popescu: mike_c tba :)
mike_c: what's the target cost for the cardano?
Kleeck_: I... I thought I did...
Kleeck_: But the booby hatch sounds nice.
Kleeck_: I wasn't suggesting that at all.
mircea_popescu: or it's the booby hatch for you.
mircea_popescu: pls to not suggest the govt doth not help and doth not matter,
Kleeck_: The USG is spending more money trying to prove that the "shutdown" is a big deal.
mircea_popescu: best & biggest government in teh whole world! real power rangers those people.
mircea_popescu: everything, outdoor monuments, the internets, rain...
Kleeck_: yes, the government runs the internetz
mircea_popescu: well, get a government that's not shutdown
jcpham: i could read trilema
ozbot: S.NSA first product - The Cardano pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: dunno how is it related to btc
kakobrekla: zipzap is this it seems http://www.zipzapinc.com/
jborkl: Ty ty
jborkl: Off to the store to hopefully find one that isn't an arm and a leg on such short notice."
jborkl: "More bad luck! My power supply just died! I highly recommend not buying this power supply! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152044
mircea_popescu: Scrat dude, the "vision". the vision matters! herpes!
kakobrekla: —Alan Safahi of ZipZap tells The Wall Street Journal.
kakobrekla: The vision of bitcoin is going to be set at conferences like this.
mircea_popescu: if they get shot in the head they won't be able to have open casket funerals.
ThickAsThieves: you'll get a kick out of the headshots for the vegas conference
mircea_popescu: is that the ceo salary ?
ThickAsThieves: i bet the salary = you get to be a founder!
pankkake: wait they have a job offer for a third "founder and c?o" lol
kakobrekla: Meni Rosenfeld. has a new thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 32.48744832 BTC to 6`684 shares, 486048 satoshi per share
kleeck: Crack that wallet and get some representation.
ThickAsThieves: the thot plickens
ThickAsThieves: "Ulbricht's public defender said Ulbricht would not protest his detention as he awaits his transfer to New York. He retains the right to pursue bail after he arrives in New York."
ThickAsThieves: "Keith, the very first guy Sean's Outpost fed with Bitcoin Died last night"
ThickAsThieves: or make better money on other things
ThickAsThieves: it's a tricky area, as i myself have been in a position before of having profitable things i no longer wanted
_mjoiii: Wondered about that in the past. If their sales pitch is correct, why are they selling?
zoinky: its buying toxic websites
mike_c: who are now trying to make one last buck off them.
_mjoiii: Except those that are monetized and apparently profitable.
mike_c: it is affiliate websites that have stopped being profitable for their owners.
ThickAsThieves: so basically flippa is website templates pretending to be businesses
_mjoiii: Would be interesting to see portfolio/projections.
nospinzy: i wouldnt invest in that
nospinzy: no the idea is to run the sites
_mjoiii: Is the idea to bundle profitable sites and sell units?
nospinzy: like that for example
ozbot: yourenotstupid.com - Website for Sale on Flippa: PR 3 Affiliate Reviews Site for As Seen On TV Produ
nospinzy: a fund to buy websites
_mjoiii: Does that mean websites?
nospinzy: anything that is a good price
nospinzy: you think people would invest in webproperties from flippa
Jere_Jones: I think I get it now. Maybe. Back to work for me. :)
ThickAsThieves: dont dwell on it too much
ThickAsThieves: shrink into their shell
ThickAsThieves: what do turtles do when they are scared?
ThickAsThieves: we is me, my partner, our team, and our lawyers
Jere_Jones: ThickAsThieves: "turtle market"? As in "turtles all the way down"?
ThickAsThieves: but it does sorta require exchanges to do the same
ThickAsThieves: we've been working hard behind the scenes to legitimize our role into a real bitcoin investment bank
ThickAsThieves: but that's within the decision tree
ThickAsThieves: it's not even that simple
kakobrekla: Want to play bitcoin? Step 1: Move out of US. Step 2: Done.
ThickAsThieves: i have no problem saying that Bitfunder has not made this easy
ThickAsThieves: in the meantime the immediate issues are the shareholders in limbo, and dividends
kakobrekla: i guess that comes with diligence
ThickAsThieves: there's no simple way to proceed
ThickAsThieves: we have a decision tree we have to climb through
ThickAsThieves: we haven't made any hard decisions in that regard
ThickAsThieves: so now that we caught up on processing all the migration data, we encountered a technical limitation with Bitfunder and we will have to require ALL TAT.ASICMINER migrators from BTCT to resubmit their info using a Havelock account
nubbins`: their fault for putting half the name in the tld
nubbins`: i always get confused as to what letter it ends on
ThickAsThieves: this is a turtle market
ThickAsThieves: the factbeing that people are moving assets
ThickAsThieves: Don't expect too much change