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jurov: yes
there were some in spam folder
kakobrekla: not sure how many gets stopped by
the spam filter
jurov: there was other one supposedly from bitcoin.org,
too
b0n1: hey! Is
there something like goxtools for btcchina?
KRS1: thanks for sharing mircea..i handle SSL certs for
the company I work for
ozbot: S.NSA - RSA public key factorisation webservice pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Namworld: ABC, one,
two,
three, baby, you and me girl!
Namworld: ok, assbot reacts
to 796 apparently
Namworld: lol 796 exchange is contacting me
to add my stocks
to
their platform.
mike_c: zoom is
the scrollbar :)
mike_c: you know, it is ok
to have a <head> and <body>. we don't need
to save 50 bytes over
the wire anymore.
seaotter: mircea_popescu: is
that new or old,
that url?
mike_c: mircea_popescu: not sure if you saw. what do you
think about posting option excercises
to kako for assbot
mircea_popescu: i hope someone somewhere is keeping
track of all
the reddirdation.
mircea_popescu: "UPDATE: 7:30PM (EST) -- We broke 100 up votes...
the shower continues!! I am getting CARPAL
TUNNEL...
THANKS!!"
mircea_popescu: wait,
there's options volume on
teh golden showers now ?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i.e.: no way
to get out of
the
trade << you can get out of it synthetically. buy
the option.
Namworld: Whatever. US' left, US' right,
they're both making
the same
thing, more or less. One party country as far as I'm concerned.
ozbot: BitBet - BTC network hashrate will exceed 2500
TH/s before February
mike_c: i can't decide if
that is awesome or horrible.
jborkl: Now
that is ghetto rigging
that guy has
bloctoc: was
that an mpex option I just saw?
jurov: perhaps it's just
there so
that you can check what
the value is
mike_c: if i am holding an option, it does me no good
to sell it
to
the bot at intrinsic value
jurov: since
the bot is part of exchange i don't see who would profit from
that
mike_c: are you sure about
that? because it seems like it would be easy for it
to just have orders up at intrinsic value and just immediately excercise after buying
them.
mike_c: keeps
the algorithm simple for what
to do with
them after buying.
jurov: hmmm...
this means mpoe
thinks it will be better off when
they autoexercise
mike_c: well, not if you're a buyer and don't want
to lose money :)
mike_c: buy price is almost exactly intrinsic value of
the call
mike_c: ok, here's where i contribute instead of nag: jurov, i believe
the mpex market bot does price its orders very close
to intrinsic value.
mod6: ahh. im in
there, but don't watch it nearly as close as I used
to.
mod6: i suppose it could be
that assbot doesn't report sub .1 btc
though. so
that could be part of it.
kakobrekla: post it
to me and ill chan it
to assbot
mike_c: post it.. in
the recent
trades?
jurov: mod6 it reported
them as
trades with strange prices
mike_c: well,
that would be
the only way
to infer open interest
mod6: i don't
think it does report exercises, although it could be hard
to
tell... does
the CBOE or others report
that information? or does it just effect open interest?
mike_c: google doesn't seem
to
think so
mike_c: seems like useful information for
the public at large.
mike_c: while we're on
the
topic.. shouldn't assbot report on excercises?
jurov: not since
tracking was introduced
mod6: actually, i
think we've discussed
this before. i've just forgotten.
mod6: i've never had
that issue, but i'm not managing like 6900 peoples orders either.
jurov: so it's very easy for multiple orders
to be mixed
jurov: all
this happens in seconds (and when mpex had a problem, even minutes) span
jurov: so
they have
to me matched by
time/price
mike_c: no no, discrepencies are resolved in sub-second
time!
jurov: and some
trades have
tracking info of your order and some not
jurov: 4. either your order appears or
trades or both
jurov: mod6 let me walk
through how easy it is
mod6: ah. i felt like it was pretty easy
to interface with programatically
mike_c: and an easy-to-use option market fits
the bill.
mike_c: or, rather, let's say
that
the demand is for gambling products for BTC.
mike_c: i don't agree with you.. demand does not have
to exist before
the product.
Apocalyptic: <kakobrekla> sarcasm doesnt
translate well over irc // oh it des
kakobrekla: sarcasm doesnt
translate well over irc
jurov: mod6 i mean
the interface from programmer's view
mod6: whats scary about
the interface?
mike_c: havelock, bitfunder. but
this is
the part where you say
they don't have any volume?
mike_c: and
that demand could be redirected
to mpex (through coinbr)
mike_c: i would say
that
the demand is already exhibited in volume at
the other exchanges
that are easier
to use
kakobrekla: once you solve a problem, a demand
to find a solution
to
that problem can only go down
mike_c: i
think
that demand will follow user-friendly
tools.
jurov: yes, you should be able. but mpex interface scares me and
there wasn't much demand, so it's not ready yet
mike_c: er,
to be clear, you ARE
the user-friendly mpex.
mike_c: shouldn't i be able
to do
that on
the site?
mike_c: yeah, but you are supposed
to be
the user-friendly mpex
jurov: after creation you can
trade/exercise
them online without problem
jurov: i can, you just have
to ask here or by email
mike_c: i.e.: no way
to get out of
the
trade
mike_c: ok. bit different
than what i'm used
to. so when you make
the option, you are on
the hook for
the rest of
the month, and
there is no way
to get out of
that obligation
jurov: yes it is
the same, if anyone bought for
this value. market bot usually buys for considerably less.
mike_c: say yes and i
think i'll understand.
mike_c: creating 10 contracts + excercise = create 10 contracts and immediately sell
to market bot which buys for intrinsic value only
jurov: as opposed
to what?
mike_c: ok.. so you are saying
that excercising is no different from creating and immediately selling for just intrinsic value.
jurov: *in
the end of
thwe month
jurov: and in
the month you will get assigned your part of *all* exercises, so no free money
jurov: <mike_c>
then mike_c creates 10 contracts and immediately excercises <<< you forget here
that you have
to put *more*
than
this into escrow
mike_c: and
thanks for
the assistance.
mike_c: ok.. let me pastebin an example here and hopefully you can
tell me why i'm not getting free money.