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TomServo: I was recently asked if I had any examples of economists that have 'jumped ship' to bitcoin and didn't readily have any. Do you folks know some?
asciilifeform hasn't read schneier in a while
punkman: he wanted my BTC too, but told him both time I didn't have any
pankkake: I suppose since the ads are per site, I can't have an account for a bunch of sites? it wouldn't make sense for advertisers anyway…
midnightmagic: ehh, don't feel like arguing anymore. Enough, enough.. I'll stop.
mircea_popescu: i don't. i care enough about the perniciously castrated "o noes, don't argue boys, cocksuckers getr more done" to point out it doesn't belong in bitcoin, or generally among grown-ups.
midnightmagic: Hush now, that silliness doesn't work on me tonight. What do you care what I say about Conformal?
mircea_popescu: just, don't be amazed that nobody with actual involvement cares for your nonsense.
midnightmagic: It works. When teams can't work directly together, as in NetBSD and OpenBSD, the two teams can cooperate very effectively as separate teams.
mircea_popescu: this isn't kansas.
fluffypony: nubbins needs to make that into a t-shirt
mircea_popescu: Since Conformal doesn't act this way, either they have a like-minded funder who enjoys watching strife, or their funder doesn't know how badly they're behaving."
mircea_popescu: "Investment banks don't like people acting in ways that make them look bad. Image is everything when your customers are rich elites. The antagonism going on with the Conformal team is not maximizing the dollar value they are being paid to do work. A cooperative effort where teams share ideas and cross-pollinate with less ego gets more done.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall all the others. this chick stuck because she was uniquely sensible.
Beyond_Bitcoin: damn man...that is kind of tough. almost like diane feinstein saying "bloggers aren't journalists and shouldn't have 1st amendment protections"
mircea_popescu: someone who doesn't write crap for free.
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu: ww2. most of the better frenchmen got shot. << i thought the point of surrendering was precisely so that this didn't happen, as it did in ww1, n'est pas? <<< maybe. who's to know.
pete_dushenski: Beyond_Bitcoin: the barrier to entry isn't as low as it used to be
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ww2. most of the better frenchmen got shot. << i thought the point of surrendering was precisely so that this didn't happen, as it did in ww1, n'est pas?
decimation: working for the democratic police, democratic gov't, etc is always going to be a raw deal
decimation: the thing is, Admiral McCain probably didn't have to issue any special instructions to 'finesse' the investigation, the investigators probably all thought it would be a brilliant plan ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'wouldn't do - polite society!'
asciilifeform: they don't bequeath their fortunes/lands/etc in the traditional way
decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire << LOL I didn't realize it was Mccain's plane that fired the missile
decimation: asciilifeform: I hadn't heard that one, hilarious
asciilifeform: though he doesn't appear as a commander
asciilifeform: (i haven't a more parsimonious hypothesis)
asciilifeform: why the latter can't draw the bezzlars straight from the 'printing press' - ask them, not me
decimation: "Then came one of the most spectacular eight-film runs in history, with a combined gross of $6.1 billion for Marvel Studios movies. But the 71-year-old Perlmutter hasn't mellowed. Under his tightfisted management, Marvel has become one of the most admired, envied and, in some quarters, resented entertainment companies. The 300-employee outfit has thrived despite insistence on ever-stricter creative controls and a reputation for
decimation: at least 80% of the movies on that list are turds. goes to show that money doesn't buy shit in hollywood
decimation: somehow all the terrible movies today don't make the same news
asciilifeform can't help but remember that atrocious film, where the last remaining tanker, still full, inhabited by motorcycle (!) gang, which smokes.
mircea_popescu: seems to me if she can't even afford to get fucked she must be pretty damned cheap.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> the us is too poor to afford leeches who climatederp all day << they doin';t really cost as much as all that.
asciilifeform: never read grant applications. 'you can't unread it.'
decimation: like all gov't programs, nothing ever dies
asciilifeform: can't even imagine a world in which bits are expensive >> program a fifty-cent microcontroller
asciilifeform: early TTY machines did not use ascii << try as they might, couldn't have - ascii was standardized in '63.
ben_vulpes: i can't even imagine a world in which bits are expensive
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo inasmuch as you know that there's a phase 4, you also know your addressing didn't work. << You know sometimes this works a la Dallas. Sometimes this doesn't like Dennis Rodman.
decimation: http://www.ticomarchive.com/iv-case-studies/geheimschreiber-t-52
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah, i figured tty was involved but what does that first 't' stand for?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo inasmuch as you know that there's a phase 4, you also know your addressing didn't work.
mircea_popescu: hint : the group doesn't actually exist, not in any way meaningful on the plane where the individuals do. consequently, both these come up with pretty contorted and quickly insane misrepresentations of the group
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: for the poor student - what is a real economy? << One that doesn't resemble the dating environment in a prison
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: best as i can tell, my business' sole selling point is "we're not fucking retarded and won't flake on you as soon as something more shiny comes along"
decimation: re: cold war paranoia: in retrospect, I think the paranoia was for midwestern kulaks, the elites were all "anti-"communists, in the sense that they thought that the soviet union wasn't "real" communism. Those elites didn't mind sending said kulaks to die in various foreign adventures though.
mircea_popescu: there's no strength to be had among people whose history isn't thus described.
decimation: ben_vulpes: in the world of ex-gov't employees collecting their post-employment paychecks, this was a pretty stupid case
ben_vulpes: i figure this is related to why i can't make any money scamming "nobody will ever fall for that!"
ben_vulpes: i can't wrap my head around how these people would give dryuns kids jobs and not see this coming ten miles away
decimation: USG doesn't allow gov't employees to have free meals or more than $20 per year in gifts from potential 'business' contacts
decimation: mircea_popescu: my experience is that most fleecing of the taxpayers takes place by former gov't employees
decimation: mircea_popescu: I would ceratianly agree that whatever one wants to label "brahmin culture" in the us, it hasn't contributed much to global human capital
mircea_popescu: now mind, i wouldn't recommend anyone try it just like that.
decimation: USG isn't pleased with flying robots either
ben_vulpes: and for mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujDoOJXtJE#t=270
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujDoOJXtJE#t=212
diametric: yeah, i don't want those for these
BingoBoingo: But then you get a taste of fuck and shit ain't that simple no more
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> that's barely a single year at a nominally high-end school << It isn't any particular year, but the number of consecutive years you can stack together.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't/didn't eat them in the states. but here they're pretty great
mircea_popescu: where's the "we can't do this because buffett says it's stupid" policy discussion ?
mircea_popescu: and no, an arsonist isn't a contributor, nor chomski much of an arsonist at all.
mircea_popescu: it didn't go anywhere lol, simmer.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: he wouldn't have been out there trying to make a bitcoin-... << claims that he tried (and gave up, because 'can have problems') << lies. what is the urbit thing ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he wouldn't have been out there trying to make a bitcoin-... << claims that he tried (and gave up, because 'can have problems')
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he [yarvin] doesn't want the current one to crash << this is because he is persuaded (not necessarily wrongly) that he and his children will be eaten by orcs when crash
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski sadly i can't evaluate your contribution because youtube considers it dangerous for minors such as myself.
mircea_popescu: preferably one that doesn't look like a whale coming aground.
mircea_popescu: stupid ass us "brahmins" can't even take their clothes off.
mircea_popescu: it's not that the us doesn';t have a great brahmin novel. it has NOTHING.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: May be because you didn't grow up on Ingles
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dignork functionally, this is idiocy (denying the fruits of reason lest they interfere with the desires of emotion) << Amazing how the Yarvins don't separate their reasoned arguments from their emotional rants
mircea_popescu: most don't get to serve as cultural reference points. for this reason.
dignork: malicious vs. idiotic problem is an intersting one: when I see somebody smarter than myself, by say +3 points, i can assume that he didn't find a solution because it required +4
mircea_popescu: dignork i don't consider idiocy to be any more all-encompassing than genius. one can be a chemistry genius and die of accidental exposure. one can similarly be a complete idiot in say politics and yet an accomplished farmer.
mircea_popescu: dignork reading can't hurt anyway.
mircea_popescu: if this were the true case he wouldn't have been out there trying to make a bitcoin-killer-ap six weeks after it became obvious to him bitcoin is the killer ap.
dignork: more that he doesn't see how it can be crashed, so he stays passive
mircea_popescu: he is consistent in the sense that he doesn't want the current one to crash.
mircea_popescu: that reminds me BingoBoingo : i was gonna say i don't like curtis yarvin / mencius moldbug for the following very specific reason - he sounds exactly like a propaganda job for smart people.
mircea_popescu: "“Expect the government to take action to bring this rate down – fast,” wrote Bianca Fernet, stilettos-on-the-ground American economist in Buenos Aires and contributor to Wolf Street. T"
WoT-Hater: we up in socialist canada don't need the wot, eh? we just trust our good neighbor and maple syrup danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: was a few hundred, they don't get that many comments.
assbot: Crazy RxMan: Don't Quit your Day Job
mircea_popescu: jurov: it's beneath them to concern with individual and personal key verification << yeah, because everyone wants to talk to people it can't even learn the name of. totally.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: then later "hey did you get my message?" << they don't have gribble where they live. because barbarians.
mircea_popescu: punkman: ben_vulpes: oic, they put everything in btcwire library, but btcd won't use it << bitwire is iirc todd's thing to make network move faster
mircea_popescu: dub: a bartender can't legally serve someone thats already drunk as fuck, a bank only has its own criteria << actualkly a bank also can't lend to the bankrupt, so...
mircea_popescu: 't imagine anyone had any lingering doubts.
mircea_popescu: this is why you don't want every dick and jane "participating". they fucking corrupt anything they participate in.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2014/08/27#l1409155575 << Absorb the harm of Hearn "Why can't bitcoind automatically restart?"
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't get how bip0064 compromises nodes << Allows very memory intensive requests which can crash nodes.
assbot: lol my thesis: I'm trying to predict the stock market and I don't even know why anyone approved this.
ben_vulpes: i don't get the furor over key distribution
ben_vulpes: i'd be surprised if 37 hadn't
ben_vulpes: 62 doesn't appear to have made it past draft?
punkman: ben_vulpes: oic, they put everything in btcwire library, but btcd won't use it