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feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-dazzling-array-of-angles-a-celebration/ << Trilema -- The dazzling array of angles -- a celebration!
lobbes: ^ indeed, looking through them I realize how small my photo post pics are in comparison. Will need to remedy this on next one
BingoBoingo: On further reading it turns out that plant apparently produces explosives for the slowly growing mining sector
BingoBoingo: Among the other armed folk
BingoBoingo: And folks wonder why the people working the cash trucks here went from revolvers and shotguns when I arrived to having a fellow this week with a .30 caliber, AR-10 type rifle.
BingoBoingo: I mean here they'll put a tiny girl and a derpy, funny guy walking a beat. Then they'll have the guy built for a fight doing his best to hunt and pick type reports, straining all the while.
mp_en_viaje: police work these days is pretty much the lulz of all time.
BingoBoingo: Kinda like how here the local police seccional is where old men hang out while younger men in uniforms take reports to enter into the official record as a sorta notary.
BingoBoingo: Right, I am uncertain the extent to which things here do as claimed. "Planta de explosives" could be the exact equivalent of a western farm kid's back shed except with uniforms and such.
mp_en_viaje: in there with filament lightbulbs and such, africa-level techs.
mp_en_viaje: otoh guncotton (aka nitrocellulose) trivial enough to make, even 13yo me made some.
BingoBoingo: They've got plenty of cellulose, now beating beef as an export in real value terms. Difficult to be certain the the extent a "planta de explosivos" is actually a factory.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/10/us-court-family-not-entitled-to-compensation-after-police-destroyed-home-pursuing-shoplifter/ << Qntra -- US Court: Family Not Entitled To Compensation After Police Destroyed Home Pursuing Shoplifter
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/10/us-federal-reserve-commits-to-making-usd-still-cheaper/ << Qntra -- US Federal Reserve Commits To Making USD Still Cheaper
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/10/central-european-retrospective-austria/ << The Whet -- Central European Retrospective: Austria
mp_en_viaje: "Eleanor Winsor Leach claimed, in her Lacanian analysis Gendering Clodius" bwahahaha HORY SHIT these retards.
mp_en_viaje: alright then.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 16:20:50 asciilifeform: moar alive nao than ever. as for mp_en_viaje , plox to post the signed addr. piz liquidators, plox to take proceedings to #p. folx who intend to continue to crib off asciilifeform's work, which continues, or want functioning hosting : to #a. (which i'ma take is no longer official mp castle, i'ma take off the sign shortly.) next gen of FG will still be produced, on asciilifeform's dime ( and i'ma respect mp_en_vi
asciilifeform: i did ask earlier for BingoBoingo to put the #p proceedings in #p . imho is where belongs.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, so the inventory of pizarro in #pizarro, asciilifeform 's self-penned philippicae, in #asciilifeform and so on
asciilifeform: i dun care to read any bullshit later that e.g. asciilifeform put 1 in his back pocket and hid.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: you ordered a full iron inventory of anyffin that may fall under snsa, so it's happening.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno why all this herpy-derp anyways, wasn't s.nsa interest in pizarro a btc or thereabouts ? what's all the hw wank ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm trying to establish that all the FG that went to piz, minus 2, are in fact at piz. is all.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: will put. gotta sort out who the FG must go to tho, before can sign on these.
mp_en_viaje: wouldja put all the rest of this in #asciilifeform, where it properly belongs ?
BingoBoingo: to. THAT would make problems.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I understand your desire to construct a defense, but look. I just took apart and reassembled a hand stack of machines to get two photos at your request. You introduced a potential competing claim to title on some of the FUCKGOATS, which I will investigate as I must. However the count and all the photos in the world don't mean shit if you sign off on a S.NSA closing inventory that includes items other folks hold the title
asciilifeform: ( pet (who ate 100% log) to a: 'so, finally '38, he declared you a враг народа, eh' ; a:'aha. i expect transport crate that fits you will be showing up soon; as you know, mp claims ownership of all gurlz, yer gettin' repossessed' p : 'lol' )
asciilifeform: if asciilifeform is 'thief', then what he 'stole' is , i suppose, republic's tech stack. and 'stole' via same mechanism that mp 'steals' gurlz from castratos, i.e. by simply showing up. it aint my fault that asciilifeform's left hand flew circles around errybody else's collective pairs of hands historically.
asciilifeform: while mp_en_viaje prolly intends to try an' paint asciilifeform as a thief, on top of charlatan, i've no intention of making ~that~ job easy for him.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma put this in the signed statement, but 2 of the fg here belong, presently, to piz. the rest (in fact factory tailings that were never on the official books) -- to mp. and ideally he'll say where he wants'em mailed, when properly proclaims liquidation.
BingoBoingo: There is an exact count. The problem now is resolving title on members of the counted set.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I removed those during the count as trinque has made it clear that he has little interest in the future of that chassis. I am also now going to have to put statement and not archaeology on the to do list to sort out wtf is going on with that, because it does affect the meaning of the count.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we retrofitted FG into trinque's also, but he paid for those. so only open his if he requests.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Alright, I'll open up the S.MG boxes while I'm at it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma post a similar photocatalogue later today of the small inventory here. and sign the text description.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 1 missing item is the pile of FGs not inside machines.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You have the link to the full tarball from yesterday if anything important seems to be missing.
asciilifeform will bbl; will process BingoBoingo's item after tea.
asciilifeform: trinque i rec to print out this log and reread it at your own tribunal. which will come ifnot this april, then next april, or whenever mp_en_viaje decides to rip off yer epaulettes for not coming up with 'biz plan' where you live on threepence/day to rewrite deedbot in php.
BingoBoingo: I can't expect myself to shift right away into great fiction writing. Blog's for stretching the braincase.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 06:40:40 mp_en_viaje: too heavyhanded, man, reads more like a preacher tract. gotta give the characters life of their own, not life of the story.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948678 << tyvm, the dialogue and punchline were banging around in my head for a couple hours. Had to dump it in the publish box to get the exercise in.
mp_en_viaje: from whence we discern that timing really is everything.
mp_en_viaje: "that's ok, honey. everything's better than the channel nowabouts."
mp_en_viaje: bimbo (who watched walk of shame with us yesterday, and was very miffed at the whole premise -- "that dumb bitch, they even speak her language!" ; as one who has spent days exactly in the manner there depicted but in rando orclands, she's quite entitled to the pov) : "so... umm... i published an article... it's not very good..."
asciilifeform: trinque: why would i bother to expand, if 'had contempt' ? i entirely respect the l1. which is why would like a proper, well-reasoned bullet from each remaining lord.
trinque: if you had so much contempt for us all, that without you we're nothing, why take so long to say so?
asciilifeform: again w/ the psychobabbles. as if i've any need to 'excuses'. i'm speaking strictly to spell out the logical implications of what mp_en_viaje said, for the thick. ( and incidentally i dun disagree w/ him, if you want to be rid not only of asciilifeform but of his ghost, you gotta rewrite it all in php, cpp, on microshit... )
trinque: rather, these things aren't even thought; they're felt and then angrily and fearfully defended.
trinque: the sad thing in your case is that you're so intelligent of a particular kind, you think it excuses you to be undeveloped in all other areas.
asciilifeform: trinque: where's the line where asciilifeform blames mp_en_viaje ( or trinque , et al ) for an item that aint done ?
asciilifeform: trinque: if you like. ( this, i learned from the master. )
trinque: it is this, where you respond to what you wish, instead of what someone else has said, you realize?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 10:15:42 mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,
asciilifeform: trinque: you think mp_en_viaje needs echoes, 'yes men' ? fella knows what he wants. ( what wants, is to somehow have working tech, while cutting off own hands. incidentally yer prolly next hand to be cut. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: my observation is that mp_en_viaje set up ~circular~ firing squad, that is sure to continue after asciilifeform properly drummed out.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: so I gather you are dissapointed there isn't one; fine.
trinque: asciilifeform: this daddy hurt me routine is embarrassing, man.
diana_coman: I am fine to answer for my own sig on what I signed.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: rright, folx going about not only using vtron, but teaching entire university course on it, while ignoring the basic logical consistency of 'i signed, i am equally responsible' aint none of my concern, aite.
asciilifeform: same goes for the trb users. (wai they not 'went over with comb' ~before~ ? it's what signing means. 'i understand what i'm signing.' )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: that's none of your concern.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you in fact read & signed the patches of all items i touched that were put to use in smg. so per mp_en_viaje's philosophy, that makes you equal to the orig author. if the item you signed indeed was product of artful sabotage, you an' i are equally answerable .
asciilifeform: aite, diana_coman : let's then at you. did asciilifeform hypnotize you into 'wrecking' smg product ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, there is no such thing as aimed at a level; name people if you are aiming at anyone or otherwise don't just throw words about.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aimed at the whole l1, not you in particular. tho if shoe fits, can wear , if you want.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: if you are aiming that at me, then have the decency to say it to my face and with name, will you?
asciilifeform: i fully expect that the folx for whom turd turns to sausage when it is decreed from throne in 100% grammatical latin, will carry on their php rewrites, cpp rewrites, etc. w/out skipping a beat. i have nfi what they even went to 'reflect' about.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: but of course. 7y+ waste of pixels, obv. so let's then settle all the objectively unfinished biz ( trinque where is tx 5e2b91f003f4af577244005ee0fd57701a03abeae76323716d06eb71f49b7837 ? ) and be done.
mp_en_viaje: i sit here watching the redancing of a dance you danced coupla years ago, knowing full well you'll come full circle from this, as from all other positions. it's...
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in more practical considerations, today's log went from 2k words before you woke up to 4k words currently, while the snr went from 90% to 50% or so. it's not even simply the instant fact that none of your lines contribute on the desirable side -- it's that the whole show's a fucking re-run!
asciilifeform: if possible i'd like to collect all the due -10 bullets from the firing squad which 'went to reflect' 1st. but this is purely asciilifeform's aesthetic pref, obv. not necessarily will be followed. 'let those w/out sin throw 1st stone.'
asciilifeform: this is spelled out in asciilifeform's resignation, which ( as mp_en_viaje 'can't be arsed to larp!11' ) i'ma drop into deedbot when the tx clears and BB returns photos etc.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948815 << ftr ~asciilifeform~ likes his 7o of works just fine. and will continue to make'em available, and developed, in the obvious place. (for whom? for folx who get tired of 'php republic'; for folx who stuck b/w mp_en_viaje's hammer and anvil , having to actually make the systems go, while elaborately pretending to do it with properly blessed 'aryan physics' ; or for no one at al
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: actually i disagree that it's unpleasant. i fully expected you'd stall for weeks. but much better to have the firing squad when ready, and not when 'weeks of reflection', this is sumthing i think sovok got right
mp_en_viaje: entirely nothing in common with any sort of european understanding of law or legal proceeding ; he was rather the guy on the porn set going "fuck that whore"/"whop that twist" whatever, or else the dude at the frat party chanting "drink! drink!", or if you prefer the boomboxing dude behind the rappers or what have you. he was the bumstcz dude, what, like at a yupik manhut party exactly.
mp_en_viaje: otherwise, since ~literally~ 100% of the crap on the "free" and "open" anglo internet is ~LITERAL~ fucking restatement of the ~~~EXACT FUCKING SAME~~~ five line passage from harvard's 1999 offering of doubleplusgood truth&realities (if you don't count a very carefully expurgated version on "marxists.org" -- lulzily, "dog" appears exactly once ; "vulture" not at
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, looky, i get it, it's unpleasant to wake up in the morning and read today's log. it can't be helped ; moreover, you built it, systematically an' carefully, by your very own self, an' against the opinion, advice an' as close to knock upside your dumb head as anyone managed. what can you ask of people, that they fly over and literally beat you into sense ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:31:45 mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's intentional, in the sense that i don't think alf has the capacity for intentional activity. he's an object, like any chair, or compass, or whatever.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948740 << right, the only trooly intentional act is to sit in cafe and smoke cigar made of benjies. whereas to try an' sew some sorta usable purse outta 30 yrs of 'tech market' sow's ear , is what furniture does. ( at least mp_en_viaje is 100% consistent with his greeks, aristotle would sign under this. 'kings -- intention, while work is what livestock does' .)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:19:25 mp_en_viaje: there's two major points where his idiocy conceivably sabotaged us. of this, the part where we're certainly not getting people in at the rate he sends them out is not of interest to smg.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948702 << this is pretty interesting : apparently ~asciilifeform~ 'sent'em out', and not the fuhrer issuing '-10 : insufficient commitment to revolution' like candy.
asciilifeform: ( it aint clear for what mp_en_viaje wants'em, aside from outta spite, if they're a work of sabotage; but it aint my place to ask )
asciilifeform: asciilifeform for instance is aboutta put'em back into production. ( mp_en_viaje asked to repossess whole current stock, which he'll get, when posts where he wants'em to go ; and so happens that i'ma need new ones. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:40:47 mp_en_viaje: yes, it's nice to have the fg ; but not at the cost of being stuck waiting for an isp that elaborately ain't happening. and so following.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948752 << y'know, it's a 100% published item -- anyone whose hands grow from torso, and not arse, and at very small expense, can make his own fg. ( but do you ~want~ to, what if 'poisoned offering' , and whole idea of 'need trng' is saboteur heresy ? )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948771 << the 6mo i spent in '15 figuring out how to perma-remove poettering from gentoo, apparently not count. ( tho, for consistency: gentoo per se is , turns out, hypnotic scam perpetrated by asciilifeform , there's a perfectly fine!111 os you can buy from redmond, no evil craftsmen required to maintain )
asciilifeform: indeed i expect mp_en_viaje is very busy nao, what with mailing out razor blades an' page #s where asciilifeform has to be cut outta the great soviet encyclopaedia.
mp_en_viaje: i got actual shit to do dude, go larp somewhere else.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i can't resist to ask, why did mp_en_viaje not yet accept asciilifeform's resignation ?
mp_en_viaje: our readings of tradition differ.
asciilifeform: i dun even grasp, mp_en_viaje , why mp_en_viaje et al are in 'omfg wat-do' mode. the Right Thing to do , per mp_en_viaje's handbook, and all written tradition, is ~exactly~ this.
asciilifeform: if asciilifeform in fact hypnotized people into taking up his charlatanry, then the Right Thing is a '-10 : effectively scammed me for 7y out of grip of realty' from erryone who agrees.
asciilifeform: or, even simpler, go straight to microshit, they've a ready-made stack for errything, incl. crypto, with absolutely 0 asciilifeform 'worm shite' in it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:22:55 mp_en_viaje: but we absolutely must look at the whole stack, with a clear eye, and clean it of alf idiocy. i don't even care if some useful bits get thrown out in the process so much
asciilifeform: so, it happens that i agree 100% with mp_en_viaje's 'wat-do' -- yes, throw out the poisoned offerings. all of'em. go to stone age circa 2013, remake yer tech stack w/ own steam ( and remember to properly steal the asciilifeform creations you can't actually do without, pick a designated aryan to assign credit. )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i dun have kilometre of buffer, maybe half dozen moar. ( atm waiting for walletron refill tx to get mined so i can settle invoice , and BingoBoingo to post photos for final manifest. )