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ozbot: The art of making friends and influencing people versus Stockholm Syndrome pe Trilema - Un blog de M
ThickAsThieves: nvm this is just some analyst
truffles: yea trying to watch the video
truffles: http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archive/segment/kalief-browder-prison-guards-starved-me/529d1ac2fe34441ee5000416 TAT when looking like some1 else goes extremely bad
ThickAsThieves: they even have "impact fees" in quotes, something this rag discusses often
pankkake: it's words from the evil faceless finance word
ThickAsThieves: all the "fancy words" are in quotes like that
ThickAsThieves: lol i'm reading a local article about city gov not paying its "futures" to the electric co
pankkake: "Through fixing this outstanding issue with BitFunder/WeExchange it will be a good thing for Neo & Bee and the Bitcoin community as a whole." :|
mike_c: or if there just isn't any action, then you'll lose out on the fees.
mike_c: if a lot of money comes in both sides it works out. if it goes heavily slanted one way the whole time, not so much.
chsados: it seems like he is betting heavy on both sides though - how does that become profitable
mike_c: somebody caught on to the trick. dump a bunch of money in early and kill the late guys. a good move.
mike_c: thanks, i thought so too.
mike_c: i know, that is interesting!
mike_c: hm, interesting. a week ago the btc/usd 7 day volatility was the highest its been since August 2011
KRS|gotyawallet: i love that about the internetz..otherwise wouldnt have been noticed.
KRS|gotyawallet: one thing i have found is that there are A LOT of local rap artists with A LOT of talent and good songs
KRS|gotyawallet: any moar trilema/dtng?
Vexual: no i mean its the land that time forgot
Vexual: and the begginning
KRS|gotyawallet: or do you mean the earth is going to end?
KRS|gotyawallet: yeah, nothing but water from there eh
Vexual: its the end of the earth
KRS|gotyawallet: now they are eating giant lizards..i bet it tastes like chicken
KRS|gotyawallet: the Aboriginal Australians are funny to me
ozbot: 04 In The Bush With Malcolm Douglas S01E05 - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: not hungry enough to go catch something like this and eat it..now boar..I'll hunt and eat the hell out of wild boar..about 20 miles from where i live, my 4x4 .45 sidepiece and 12 gauge shotgun, its on...knife, winch and hunting dogs ready to go.
ozbot: The Doom Generation (1995) Trailer - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: I'd rather go eat some thing from McDonalds which is probably very bad for me, than eat something like this.
KRS|gotyawallet: i must be too refined..
KRS|gotyawallet: Vexual: its very strange that foxes fly in your country..but then again I think some folks there even eat Bats.
KRS|gotyawallet: Hey there LorenzoMoney
KRS|gotyawallet: Pray to Jesus so the forum fuckwit can be saved and find salvation.
mircea_popescu: and just like nobody botheres with amy i don't bother with that forum fuckwit and so the circle continues.
asciilifeform: "We shall escape the absurdity of growing a whole chicken in order to eat the breast or wing, by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium."
Vexual: oldest society in the world
mircea_popescu: nobody can be bothered to give her a good lashing and put her to work, because this is more skilled and valuable attention than she "deserves".
Duffer1_: even then it's almost not survivable
mircea_popescu: up to her chest in shit, fed antibiotics to control the infection. everything at the bare minimum.
mircea_popescu: the way the capitalist democracy works is that she gets the bare minimum to survive, much like a cow in one of the insalubrous farms they invented.
KRS|gotyawallet: how so? in a capitalist society she wouldnt be given anything, she would have to do something in order to survive ie: make herself useful
KRS|gotyawallet: capitalism wouldnt let that happen..in her system is she given the necessities to survive even though she doesn't work?
mircea_popescu: but this doesn't happen where she lives. why not ? because nobody gives a shit.
KRS|gotyawallet: maybe pregnant too.
mircea_popescu: now, if amy got to spend a few years on a mexican farm among mexican people who'd put her lazy ass to work rather than ask her about her feelings
mircea_popescu: so to speak, you brought my example yourself :)
mircea_popescu: well that's basically my point. in his system, every person is valuable, and because oif that you end up with hard working people who aren't depressed.
KRS|gotyawallet: he lives in a VERY different system although he doesn't even live that far away from where i do
mircea_popescu: also unlike amy, he doesn't vote. he lives in a different system, which both explains him and makes sense to him.
KRS|gotyawallet: right, he does the work of two men and doesnt need to be managed
mircea_popescu: the democratic system however ensures that he's well penalised for that.
KRS|gotyawallet: comparitavely its nothing to me, i easily drink twice as much as I pay him when I go to the strip club on the weekends to see tits.
Vexual: youre thinking manhours, where its output you want
KRS|gotyawallet: In return he works like two men when I only have to pay one.
KRS|gotyawallet: i pay him moar because he works hard, is reliable and very trustworthy..i pay him his equivallent rate as a documented worker.
Vexual: he is the company fuckwit
Vexual: i think capitalism is pretty hard wired into humans
KRS|gotyawallet: i have a mexican i pay $100 for a day of labour on my property..usually twice a month..he normally makes $80 and works longer in on the farms picking vegetables.
Vexual: labour is a free market, if you've got skills or whathaveyou, ask the price
Vexual: they dont camp there for more than a night, let alone dig the shit up
KRS|gotyawallet: Vexual this is a serious issue
KRS|gotyawallet: I was just having trouble understanding the worth of labour as it applies to democracy, which is more suited for a discussion about capitalism.
KRS|gotyawallet: Vexual: they speak funny there.
mircea_popescu: but this is the very point at hand : in the republican tyrani around vorkuta she might be discovered as somewhat valuable. in her hometown @ democracy, she's exactly zero.
KRS|gotyawallet: As is everyone who stuffs their bags with blow.
asciilifeform: nobody's a zero, everyone a hero there.
asciilifeform: the fellows who stuffed their gloves with detcord and blew, well, you don't need hands to tramp the dirt
KRS|gotyawallet: worth zero to the society that supports her
asciilifeform: nobody is worth zero, in the uranium mines of vorkuta.
Vexual: and a phd in some bullshit noone wants to read flags you as a kneeler
mircea_popescu: in fact she may well be worth zero. that's an achievement, for a live human.
mircea_popescu: "amy" is not exactly tradeable for one random individual. she's worth less than the average of 7 billion, which is already pretty damning.
mircea_popescu: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/12/millennial_narcissism_helicopter_parents_are_college_students_bigger_problem.html < take that as a convenient example.
mircea_popescu: you can't escape value as such. it's there whether your current viewpoint hides it or not.
KRS|gotyawallet: On one hand we are talking about value, as it applies to labour which probably applies better to the context of capitalism and on the other hand we're applying that toward a democracy which doesnt necessarily recognize value, but rather mob rule.
Vexual: were about 5-10 years off the real info revolution
Vexual: ill shut the flip when im good and ready bitch
Vexual: i was on my mobile phone doing deals at the back in 94
mircea_popescu: these all include two things : adversative education, which is to say education done forcibly, without bothering with the consent of the educated, and political power. neither exist in a democracy, thus reducing the youth to this situation of neoteny.
mircea_popescu: similarly, but more politely, the process through which the medieval youth moved from unskilled apprentice to skilled journeyman to actual craftsman on his own is similar
mircea_popescu: the process through which the antique adolescens solidified into vir, ie, a man, is the typical increase in value. it includes such experience as killing others, and being responsible for the self in new situations and so on.
mircea_popescu: KRS|gotyawallet no, i mean put them in a position where their abilities and knowledge actually improve so that they are objectively worth more.
Vexual: but theres a few unions that will dissappear a politician
Vexual: apprently all our medical records were dutifully compiled into the prism database
KRS|gotyawallet: whre its illegal in a democracy to improve the capital value of labour? You mean pay a man more than a woman for certain types of jobs?
mircea_popescu: KRS|gotyawallet well yes, the entire discussion started with an example.
mircea_popescu: Vexual yeah, inasmuch as it's done to exhaust the person without any benefit then it's acceptable.
KRS|gotyawallet: mircea_popescu: do you have an example of that?
mircea_popescu: the entire point of the whole thing is to make it so people are worthless and stay worthless.
mircea_popescu: exactly. it's actually illegal in the democracy to improve the capital value of labour.
Vexual: i foirgot to puit ino moi doil foirm
asciilifeform: well in 'democracy' a polizei will bite you on the arse if you employ the unskilled fellow for the wage he's worth.
Vexual: if you bump your head on the scaffold of a construction site, you havent much hoipoe
mircea_popescu: yet you know, in imperial japan or soviet russia or republican rome it is not acceptable for some guy to go "i have no skills master but i would like to work" and he not be taken in, trained and worked.
Vexual: double or nothing would be at least twice as funny
ozbot: Driicky Graham "Snapbacks & Tattoos" - YouTube
mircea_popescu: but if you live in the heartless-est system ever invented, you can just nod and ignore.
Vexual: thats not the most funny outcome
mircea_popescu: if you live in some sort of more or less republican tyrany it is incumbent upon you to take in all the idiots.