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asciilifeform: 'dust telescope.'
asciilifeform: anybody feeling particularly energetic is invited to carry out an experiment:
asciilifeform: moral: 1) single-tasking machine 2) performing crypto-ops when you want, and not when internet asks 1000x/sec.; 3) battery belongs to you and physically visible
BingoBoingo: Well, the Cardano uses a battery for a reason...
asciilifeform: if the probability of a 'cough' is sufficiently large, any system that can be 'milked' for RSA exchanges is vulnerable.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is by no means particular to SPARC
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe you linked this, but I recall finding a paper on how SPARC chips can leak RSA keys given an attacker feeding the system sertain kinds of voltage fluctuations.
dub: wonder if there is any research into encouraging them
asciilifeform: consider the trivial case of RSA with lowest bit in 'p' or 'q' (pubkey = PxQ) flipped.
asciilifeform: phun phact: most public key cryptosystems cough up key bits in this scenario.
asciilifeform: dust TX, if they exist, could be interesting. bit flips from cosmic rays?
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu solar fart dude wants your PR girl to make some sort of decision on her "share" according to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293098.msg3678941#msg3678941
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
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Duffer1: there's no end to bitcoin drama
dub: true to form the usual tard brigade took the bait, gmax and phantomcircuit
dub: shortly after mike_c's tx hit
dub: <snackman> 16TNs3DYjkGZrnEW4KV7ust6sWU3Esk7eW this address just got 0.002 btc
mpexbot: snackman: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
mpexbot: mike_c: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
Vexual: just have your lawyer do the photocopying at your office
mircea_popescu: twist : snackman scammed mike_c by falsely claiming to have placed more bitbets
snackman: the first time i actually got some money out of bitbet
mike_c: double the promised sum because i loved your answer
snackman: mike_c: hilarious, it worked! thanks!
ThickAsThieves`: is this ltc asic news why it's rallying?
snackman: what is this shit
ManSnack: cazalla: That dork probably plays WoW too.
mircea_popescu: cazalla me too actually.
BingoBoingo: I may have plenty of beard, but I'll be damned if my tits are bigger than a grown man named Oliver's.
mircea_popescu: you got too big tits and too much beard to be usagi.
BingoBoingo: For all we know the person bankrolling LTC ASICs could be Curt Schilling and the Engineer could be some kid he picked on in highschool who merely has to fulfill the objective of making any LTC capable scrypt ASIC at all. Not necessarily anything close to a profitable scrypt asic.
mircea_popescu: things like "some chick is crazy enough to produce a pic of a large wooden object stuck in her snatch" is one thing
mircea_popescu: if such things were a function of people's crazyness...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well I figure for some unknow n^th announcement one person or group will inevitably be crazy enough to produce the asics
mircea_popescu: ironically because of scrypt, fpgas are actually a much better choice for ltc than asics
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i dunno that anyone will ever deliver ltc asics. putting all that memory on a chip is not trivial.
mircea_popescu: in fact, everyone evaluates their bitcoin exposure in terms of what their bitcoin holdings are. this is about half the story.
mircea_popescu: somewhere in there he failed to account for the fact that having kept his reputation intact for those two years is just about as valuable as having kept his bitcoins for two years.
mircea_popescu: he goes on forum as a week old and is shocked at how mean people are, telling him to do 6 motynhs + of reading before he opens his mouth again
BingoBoingo: Seems for Litecoin devotees this insanity is going to be magnified as CoinDesk has just reprinted so many people's "press releases" about impending litecoin ASICs and if a single manufacterer delivers it will have meant Litecoin skipped that awkward FPGA adolescence while still staying a fraction of a fraction of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: two years later, he needs to be 1 year+ old to be even considered, because now bitcoin is 4 years old.
mircea_popescu: he imagines the value of this is 1 month.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of truth to it. let's lay it out : bozo comes in when bitcoin is 1 year old, can start a reputation within a week and be doing business within am onth.
Kleeck_: There is some truth to that, mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: Kleeck_ people fail to correctly value reputations.
mircea_popescu: that's pretty much the story of how we ended up with the insanity.
mircea_popescu: so people naturally tried to stick to what works
mircea_popescu: it was stretched past its usability into insanity by a desperate desire and need for stability. bitcoin doesn't offer much of that,
mircea_popescu: consequently, the first fpga's were pretty much a potluck affair
mircea_popescu: people don't have 10k laying around the house.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform originally this started as a hobbyst project.
Kleeck_: The cost of being legit is far less appealing than the old "cut and run" I'd assume.
ThickAsThieves`: it was the plan, or it became the plan
dexX7: they have some strange refund policies, if you mean that
Kleeck_: Don't they have a compensation program?
dexX7: hashfast is not shipping/delayed more than a month now
Kleeck_: Due to the delays?
Kleeck_: ThickAsThieves`, any data that lead you that direction? I have no skin in that game, but I've wondered. It's just a hunch.
Kleeck_: I could walk into my datacenter and snap a bunch of awesome pictures. It doesn't mean I'm mining a damn thing.
Kleeck_: No. You are current with the times.
asciilifeform: maybe i'm just behind the times. but, picture some bozo: 'i'ma build a skyscraper. here's lots of pictures of my bulldozers, cranes! here's some cement mixers!'
BingoBoingo: The only problem with HAL is that the contractor's specs insisted he be programmed to run on a Java Virtual Machine
kakobrekla: yeah, teh avatar is dead giva away
BingoBoingo: I know you got the reference kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the girl.
asciilifeform: what part of this couldn't have been filmed by a bored sysop anywhere on the planet?
ThickAsThieves`: ethere they are https://plus.google.com/photos/100533316768811011163/albums/5946837483879253265/5946840121426110546?pid=5946840121426110546&oid=100533316768811011163
ThickAsThieves`: so icedrill has oodles of hardware, just none that mines?
BingoBoingo: Well, we will know when we've hit forbidden territory when .Europa happens.
mircea_popescu: (dunno if that cognate works in somalian. to enstinken)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ya but then they went and inputsio'd all over it
kakobrekla: i liked the .io a lot cause of the jupiters moon
ThickAsThieves`: mexicoin, possibly the best name for a nationcoin?
mircea_popescu: what's with the .io stuff anyway ?
BingoBoingo: Considering earlier references in this channel has anyone seen Amir's hair yet?
benkay: well gosh snackman read the log for the past 10 days then you might have a clue as to the references
mircea_popescu: well at that point satoshi wasn't satoshi yet.
Vexual: vd in the orginal code?
BingoBoingo: Unless we get into some weird gnostic Bitcoin theology where Amir Taaki was Satoshi/Jesus and then gave himself downs syndrome to hide his secret.
ThickAsThieves`: whatever happened to IceDrill anyway?
BingoBoingo: stephengandel, that Bitcoin Jesus
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves`: Who doesn't spread their coins over at least 7 places?
snackman: maybe i will meet him in the synagoge on saturday
Vexual: i just went to my local casino and tried betting after the bell. Apparently the chips go to the house.
ThickAsThieves`: i like that setup
mircea_popescu: receiving yes. but they pay from wherever is convenient.
jamespeerless: seems like most wallets let you generate receiving addresses though
mircea_popescu: snackman maybe he didn't include a tx fee ?
mircea_popescu: because it has to coldstore its btc
mircea_popescu: not practical for a web wallet to allocate addresses to users
jamespeerless: hm I guess I don't understand "wallets" enough then.. i thought an address was an address
mircea_popescu: (as most wallets don't have any way to associate their payment system to their users)
mircea_popescu: also because if i sent the winnings to the address that sent the bet people would end up fucked if they sent from a wallet.
mircea_popescu: cause if 5 peopel sent from the same wallet to the same bet your identifiocation scheme would fail
jamespeerless: why can't they send from web wallets if you did a single address per bet option
BingoBoingo: Sometimes you wanna hedge. Sometimes you wanna take all of the position.
mircea_popescu: you can but you don't want to, because this way people can send from webwallets or w/e
jamespeerless: mircea_popescu: can't you read the from address in the transaction block?