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jamespeerless: doesn't this lend itself to a couple big corps from releasing their own widely adopted forks.. similar to os x and the 5000 flavors of linux?
mircea_popescu: such as the snackman kid.
mircea_popescu: it DOES however threaten any one actor, and ESPECIALLY actors acting on deluded presumptions,
mircea_popescu: if anything, it makes the system stronger.
mircea_popescu: this will be a major resource black hole in the coming years, but it does not threaten the system itself.
mircea_popescu: well that's just it, the network blindly decides.
mircea_popescu: and with "the network accepts it" as pretty much the only measure of good or evil.
jamespeerless: how can it work if everyone is using their own in-house modified version yet they all need to communicate together
mircea_popescu: this will aggravate over time, with miners and large merchants all pushing on the code,
mircea_popescu: 5. the situation has evolved in the exact direction i was expecting : absent a specification everyone is using their own in house concoctions.
mircea_popescu: this, obviously, is a very hard task. they, aware of their intellectual limitations, eschewed this task.
mircea_popescu: 4. at the right time (ie 2012) i pointed out to them that their only chance to maintain any semblance of relevance is to fully specify the code.
mircea_popescu: basically a collection of people with poor iq and worse skills, hanging on because they perceive this as sexy, and imagine hanging on makes them somehow important.
mircea_popescu: 3. once satoshi left the dev team never recovered. it's roughly what the linux dev team would be if linus left.
mircea_popescu: 2. people started using it anyway, because it was there. this is how things usually work.
mircea_popescu: 1. bitcoin was released as a prototype. that means something specific, and what it means doesn't include "to be used for any actual purpose". prototypes are there to test.
jamespeerless: if you're saying the current dev's contributing to bit coin are no good and its clear bit coin will require more work to be 'production ready' then without some change the future is bleak
mircea_popescu: but anyway, rather than have you shoot in the dark, here's the story :
jamespeerless: so your outlook on the future of bit coin protocol is bleak?
mircea_popescu: cause the credibility of the dev team is somewhere between nil and epsilon
jamespeerless: by the newer versions? why not?
mircea_popescu: however, wallets made by those versions won't see a significant chunk of actual bitcoins... likely ever.
mircea_popescu: it's possible that a significant chunk of users (by headcount) are on .7/.8 or w/e
mircea_popescu: as best as i can determine everyone is on some trunk from .4 to .6 with a bunch of in house patches
jamespeerless: so because of these limitations sounds like you need to do some manual work to resolve payouts
mircea_popescu: not intended to be put into production.
jamespeerless: wow just sad that
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 it's impossible to accurately calculate the value bitcoin transmits
ozbot: Bitcoind : not quite ready for prime time pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Duffer1: has bitcoin already surpassed western union in terms of value transmitted?
gribble: Western Union Says Bitcoin Not Ready For Primetime – Bitcoin ...: <http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7692/western-union-says-bitcoin-not-ready-for-primetime/>; Bitcoin's New All-time High: Exploring the Latest Bubble – Bitcoin ...: <http://bitcoinmagazine.com/8104/bitcoins-new-all-time-high-exploring-the-latest-bubble/>; Western Union Says Bitcoin Not Ready For Primetime - Kitco (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google bitcoind not ready for prime time
mircea_popescu: there is some discussion on this topic over at
mircea_popescu: what are you gonna do, you know ? consolidate them.
mircea_popescu: bitpay wishes it could say the same thing
mircea_popescu: that means the avg bet is > 1btc
mircea_popescu: if you look at the stats, Confirmed bets: 7123 Confirmed total: 9,728 BTC
mircea_popescu: jamespeerless not moreso than the average site taking bitcoin
jamespeerless: micea_popescu: continuing discussion from yesterday.. since you have a new address per user per bet, don't you end up with a ton of addresses with a tiny amount of coin in them? what do you do with them once the bet is over?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay http://trilema.com/2013/the-art-of-making-friends-and-influencing-people-versus-stockholm-syndrome/#comment-96511
mircea_popescu: ask nicely the chick in hr with the big boobs
KRS|gotyawallet: i quit and told them they could keep their fucking laptop..think they'll let me get my shit off it?
mircea_popescu: i was thinking fo the other case.
mircea_popescu: a nm then
mircea_popescu: well ya but this presumes you have the old one.
gribble: (changekey <keyid>) -- Changes your GPG registered key to <keyid>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. You must be authenticated in order to use this command.
pankkake: I'm thinking of changing mine to a stronger one
KRS|gotyawallet: i've got 20 btc on a hard drive around here somewhere but i'm just too lazy to find it.. meh
mircea_popescu: suppose i show up one day to find my gpg key was helpfully changed.
KRS|gotyawallet: i dont work any more..i just do this stuff now..ty btc
KRS|gotyawallet: you'd think i'd know better being in IT 14+ years..did it on my laptop..just too lazy.
mircea_popescu: they're paying you not to.
KRS|gotyawallet: i lost my gpg key..should have known better than to create it on a company computer =/
mircea_popescu: well i ain't changing that, but you should start your own troll school./
gribble: You rated user dub on Wed Dec 19 17:11:23 2012, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: he's been around a while..
mircea_popescu: bonus points for firing acetone charged magnets at the sun to generate extra gamma particles <<< bwhaahahajh omfg
mircea_popescu: is probably going to make someone a few bitcoin down the road.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually, the application where you generate all bitcoin addresses whose private key is an ascii string
pankkake: there are some css options for tables to avoid it IIRC
KRS|gotyawallet: the magic behind my method is teh pipe
dub: did they get piped to yr wallet
mircea_popescu: i misread a blank line because your name is so long it bumps the table
KRS|gotyawallet: can you describe the blank line, sir. ☟︎
kakobrekla: can you link to a particular blank line
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol that got her well fuming. apparently it's some scammy thing that is trying to pretend like they're less scammy because they're associated with credible people, by the procedure of giving those people free shares they never asked for.
mircea_popescu: dub i suppose someone should tell them my henchman snackman was jus' trolling them
mircea_popescu: true to form the usual tard brigade took the bait, gmax and phantomcircuit << lawl.
mircea_popescu: verge, computerworld and the rest of the trade rags quite 100mn
Vexual: but im far more interested in the exchange rate bedoming irrelevant
Vexual: id take some of that 10000 2014 bet
ozbot: BTC raise to US$ 1800 can happen this week !! - JDBIF - The Bitcoin Investment Fund.
Vexual: you can't force nayone to use gpg, but you can sign your kids up for a jungle war easily enough
Vexual: but trying to cover it up to protect the way the info was obtained is an exercise in futility, fact check or no
Vexual: i think the signals directorate has our press
BingoBoingo: If only there were a "Nation of Bitcoin" tattoo
Vexual: it may be an oversight, but the real story is that this ASIS agent, and his lawyer, preparing to appear in a hauge court where they have been summoned, have been relieved of all their documents by other agents on PNG soil.
ozbot: Would spying on East Timor by the Australian Secret Intelligence Service be illegal? - Fact Check -
Vexual: This article from two hours ago, from our supossedly, yet state funded press...
KRS|gotyawallet: no? i think i've heard of it..got Jaegermeister in it?
KRS|gotyawallet: Mark it down as brokerage fee services on their tab.
KRS|gotyawallet: Namworld: I'll do it for you for 10% of their payment. np.
benkay: oh no jokes my bad there's totally character coding shit still in there and etc
benkay: oh hey wouldja lookit that mircea_popescu fixed the footnotes on trilema
Namworld: Nah, didn't want to paste that.
Namworld: Not the right paste
BingoBoingo: It may have been prudent to write a contract before starting these things limiting your responsibility so you aren't pursuing this Sisyphean task until death?
Namworld: I must be really dirty then
BingoBoingo: Namworld: Because your worth as a person is only worth the reputation attached to your Public keys?
Namworld: Can anyone remind me why I have to run after people to pay them hundreds or thousands of dollars? or even 10000s for a few people?
asciilifeform: 'the miser pays twice.' using cheapo hardware has a cost. eventually people will pay the cost.
dub: the look on their face when they find out you weren't joking when you said 'cosmic rays'
dub: in my world its always fun to see new players flapping about random ECC error alarms
asciilifeform: there's plenty of gamma to go around. and ECC RAM has gone out of fashion.
dub: bonus points for firing acetone charged magnets at the sun to generate extra gamma particles
nubbins`: ^ even this
asciilifeform: will to live?
asciilifeform: that others, generating addrs in the past, may have used...
asciilifeform: in fact, bonus points if you use a known turd for an entropy source
dub: still seems like a rather larger collision space than some well known short domain names
asciilifeform: helps if you have a reasonable entropy source, but not essential for this application.