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spyked: nyways, this sort of thing can be handled on the operator end, e.g. I can temporarily disable feeds on demand and now we know the sort of thing that alters mp-wp rss feeds
spyked: fwiw I don't believe this is flaw; the alternative would be for the bot to keep a list of all the items it's ever seen, but then it would be a list of all the items it's seen since the feed was first added to its db, which is an arbitrary cutoff point. wouldn't have prevented this spam anyway, since I've originally added the feed list to feedbot in 2018? and ossasepia's current rss goes all the way to 2017
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-01 16:42:34 mircea_popescu: i mean, your rss page was 5 items, which feedbot knew ; then your rss page had 1k items, of which feedbot knew... the first five. so listed the rest.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-01 16:40:13 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: but so what, those 1k were still old/seen, no?
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949184 <-- no, it's precisely http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949191 ; feedbot looks at the rss feed and a. updates its db to reflect what's on the remote end; and b. it queues notifications for items that weren't there on the previous visit.
spyked will look at the mess in 1min and clear up the notification queue/fix other burning problems
BingoBoingo: And I'm going to move the cleaning recent comments and pingbacks down the work order list
BingoBoingo: Right, Clogs out the people.
mircea_popescu: anyways -- i dun think a blog should list pingbacks either in the comment rss or in the "new comments" navbar.
BingoBoingo: But Pingbacks, at last of the local sort now work on 'anyserver'
BingoBoingo: Apologies if anyone has a bunch of incoming pings. I ran http://trilema.com/2015/how-to-fix-your-local-trackbacks/ and the scope of things to ping expanded beyong the local trackbacks. Got a ctrl-c
mircea_popescu: or wait, this is what you were talking about huh. i c
mircea_popescu: incidentally : i'm pretty suspicious of something after-i-released it, because ~my~ mp-wp doesn't do the weird thing re chars/encodings spyked & all been comp;laining about.
billymg: anyway, will have two patches up shortly, one for the fix and one for a test of that behavior
billymg: (well, that particular line should still have been removed, but should have preserved its "true" evaluation result rather than "false")
billymg: yeah, when originally ripping it out, my brain parsed a "if (! $richedit ) ..." as "if ( $richedit ) ..." and so removed the line
diana_coman: so it would seem that jfw has actually found a bug with those html chars, except it wasn't in the original mp-wp but in billymg's trimming patches so that should get fixed now.
mircea_popescu: funny how that works huh
BingoBoingo: Well, August feels like ancient history this November 1st
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in imperial lulz, the ministry of continued pretense has merged tumblr into...
mircea_popescu: the fact is that a WHOLE COUNTRY, literal millions of engineers, gathered together in what was, for all practical purposes, a political party, produced... nothing, over 20 years.
mircea_popescu: sadly i'm not equal to the task ; i have no fucking idea how that wouldsound in english.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, re the greater sadness of "engineer"/fucktard mentality, i should probably translate http://trilema.com/2011/un-rasad-uscat/
BingoBoingo: As far as I can tell nothing notably better than the existing local assets
diana_coman: iirc he set it some timer because it was getting wedged on too many so now probably that works to... keep it up, lolz
diana_coman: well, flooded everyone subscribed to feedbot.
mircea_popescu: what, free feedbot testing, what's the problem.
diana_coman: sigh; I dunno I could have avoided this though and still switch just archives to unpaginated.
mircea_popescu: i mean, your rss page was 5 items, which feedbot knew ; then your rss page had 1k items, of which feedbot knew... the first five. so listed the rest.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: do you mean some very old one triggered feedbot and then it didn't check, just kept going to the end?
mircea_popescu: spyked, can answer for this :D
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: but so what, those 1k were still old/seen, no?
mircea_popescu: no, you removed the limit. went from 5 to 1k
mircea_popescu: http://ossasepia.com/feed/rss/ << look it. feedbot skipped the one it saw, and...
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ie taking out the content of the posts from rss did it?
mircea_popescu: what happened is the content of rss page changed drastically.
diana_coman: so myeah, php works like this on the spot with the usual potential side effects, ugh.
diana_coman: and I suspect it's that last one that triggered "new" because now different url ie no page-2 ,no?
diana_coman: just 1. took out content from archives.php 2. increased limit at per page
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/07/17/the-mirror-land-notes-on-graphics-for-eulora-iii/ << Ossa Sepia -- The Mirror Land (Notes on Graphics for Eulora, III)
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/07/20/the-young-hands-club/ << Ossa Sepia -- The Young Hands Club
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/08/03/silently-unhappened-on-theodinprojectcom/ << Ossa Sepia -- Silently Unhappened on TheOdinProject.com
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/08/06/the-widgeting-paws-of-pointerism-notes-on-graphics-in-eulora-v/ << Ossa Sepia -- The Widgeting Paws of Pointerism (Notes on Graphics in Eulora, V)
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/08/07/a-visit-at-the-recycling-of-war-artefacts-museum/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Visit at the Recycling of War Artefacts Museum
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/08/12/camera-tests-of-a-sunday/ << Ossa Sepia -- Camera Tests of a Sunday
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/08/25/the-new-old-vilnius-of-2019/ << Ossa Sepia -- The New Old Vilnius of 2019
mp_en_viaje: with that gnarly alf irc quote thing
mp_en_viaje: in other news, i suspect you might be the current record holder re longest footnote.
mp_en_viaje: imo better large max than no max anyways.
diana_coman: made it 10k even; if/when I write 10k posts, then yes.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: hm, it would seem this has a toggle ie from settings; atm I set it to at most 1000 so it should not bother you there but it doesn't quite solve it.
mp_en_viaje: defeats the entire puporse
diana_coman: ahaha; dunno, it was the original archive.php of that theme there and it actually doesn't look anything like your archive.php from the paste; but at least yes, it was clear enough.
mp_en_viaje: this is how php ~is supposed to~ work. sometimes even does ; especially if no engineers were involved with the portion.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, and mazel tov.
mp_en_viaje: a ok then :)
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: me? neah, I know very well what was in them, lolz.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: and rather surprisingm when I actually took the time to look into the archive.php thing, it was as easy as snip-the-shit
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, if you had them, would you read them ?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, tried via rando webproxy and indeed, comment made it. nfi, must be some "optimized" reloads browser side i guess
diana_coman: eh, along that line I *did* throw away a pile of papers & letters from when I was 16 or shit, lolz.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: thanks, let me see here.
diana_coman: I suppose I could get & import those from there too, for historical reasons, why not.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-01 15:43:21 mp_en_viaje: also, either your archives are broken ( http://ossasepia.com/2010/10/ << missing 2nd page link on that archive, which in fact has two pages of which one can't be reached, hence why it ends on 11th ?) or else some articles are missing ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949105 - the "missing" there is on the .wordpress thing in the very beginning so yeah not in archives on my site directly.
diana_coman: that thing with stale page is weird; it happened to me on trilema.com a few times too (ie had to change machine to get around it)
diana_coman: because yes, I wanted that but never made the time to dig in the mp-wp
mp_en_viaje: i think it's a theme thing
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: how do I convert to title-date? is there a switch somewhere?
mp_en_viaje: oh look at that, the trilema archive for the current years, ~titles only~ and excluding sidebars etc > 5k words.
mp_en_viaje: an' in any case, any chance i can convert you to the title-date format for archives, like http://trilema.com/2019/ say, so i'm not stuck scrolling through miles of body if reviewing just titles ?
mp_en_viaje: also, either your archives are broken ( http://ossasepia.com/2010/10/ << missing 2nd page link on that archive, which in fact has two pages of which one can't be reached, hence why it ends on 11th ?) or else some articles are missing ?
mp_en_viaje: it's not fucking stale, i just reloaded it ; seems there's some other switch above that one with no proper error outpu tthat then just falls through here. both these issues prolly need a fix
mp_en_viaje: Looks like you tried to comment off a stale page. Reload the article, count to three and try again."
mp_en_viaje: hey diana_coman : i'm trying to leave a "The keks of 2019 salute you.\n\nCum mai e pe la doctorat ?" comment on http://ossasepia.com/2009/09/27/din-transeele-doctoratului-avanpremiera/ but no matter what i do -- "
mod6: trinque: I was able to get a !!balance, but !!withdraw did not issue me a challenge. Here's the info, thanks in advance: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=g2BN
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/tara-tara-vrem-ostasi/ << Trilema -- Tara, tara, vrem ostasi!
feedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3542 << Loper OS -- The Boneyard.
asciilifeform: ^ plox to ignore, fixed rss.
feedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3513 << Loper OS -- TMSR North Ameristan Rack Prospectus: Second, Revised Draft.
BingoBoingo: Outside the parks, there's the occasional patch of fescue or some other real grass that makes for quite the stark contrast.
mp_en_viaje: (literally, "how to go about finding out what you don't yet know you don't know".)
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ahahaha; I'm generally fine with the questions I ask, lol.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I always imagine as a consequence the story of Death-With-A-Lawnmower at that image.
mp_en_viaje: pretty sure i have somewhere on trilema a pic of the contrasting grasscutting worlds, men with scythes on one side of the road, with the gasoline 2stroke luls on the other isde
BingoBoingo: Mind that aerating or power raking is an iffy proposition. Hard to tell when the soil's eroded and taken one of the plastic pipes into cutting/stabbing depth.
BingoBoingo: I suspect it is the local labor groups that force the string trimmer worst of all worlds solution
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Some of the older, bigger plazas have structures suggesting they were once managed in that way.
diana_coman: dunno, here in parks they actually have a guy that specifically *takes care of the grass* ie re-seeds it if needed, aerates the soil, etc.
BingoBoingo: Never mind the fuckers could indigenously produces reel mowers. They have the tech for that, though prolly better to ave Brasil do it for quality control reasons.
BingoBoingo: It really is. Except for the religious string trimming that leave the grass uneven with brown tips, the local parks aren't far removed from fallow. Though some larger expanses get the tractor towed mower.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-08-30 15:11:10 diana_coman: except the Morandi bridge and possibly more of Italy from what I hear
diana_coman: ahaha, but ofc; and the poetry of concrete
ossabot: Logged on 2018-01-31 08:06:42 ben_vulpes: sooo, capetown to run out of water early april http://wtkr.com/2018/01/25/in-less-than-3-months-a-major-international-city-will-likely-run-out-of-water/ and so "unwashed hair is now a sign of social responsibility"
mp_en_viaje: though probably http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-01-31#1778722 nonsense will be secreted to "replace", socialism always has at the ready "the power of scientific progress". they'll "discover" the great value aesthetic of fallow lots.
mp_en_viaje: it won't last though, their arms will fall off from the vibe, and who's gonna replace ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-01 10:56:41 mp_en_viaje: there is no better alternative to however many men in the scattered line, going at it. they can cut grass at the speed of a stout walk, which nothing else can do.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949058 << Here the parks are usually done with the worst of the old/new combination. Gangs of people running string trimmers. Not just in the sense of "we ripped up the sod and had to let the Bermuda get tall before we dared put feet on it. It's how they do the routine mowing!
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-01 08:04:57 mp_en_viaje: i suppose we could say women make horses while men make donkeys. people have enough fucking sense to take horses to war and donkeys to church, but when it comes to the other equine they psychotically reverse for no reason.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949007<< Right. The tiny mommies gone beast of burden for the smaller, potential, people that fall out of em... suggest a greater capacity to adapt to task in spite of theit physiological disadvantage when it comes to packing on more muscle. Of course left on their own, eventually the tiny mommies break and go mula on a long enough timeline.