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mircea_popescu: well, there's one overarching bit of context here : the offer is to sell ~ONE~
mircea_popescu: so, the sukhoi 34 is a pretty cool plane ; in any case the basis of the russian defeat in the field of usg's pretense to air participation. now suppose for the sake of argument someone comes offering to sell one ; and suppose further that you're to advise on the purchase by providing a single scalar value : what the item is worth iyo.
mircea_popescu: bear with me here, because this is going to be lengthy.
mircea_popescu: explain this to me, can you ? why are these valuable ?
mircea_popescu: the other part is that, well... why exactly is a texture / skin / shader / model / anything else in compgfx even valuable in the first place ?
mircea_popescu: so i don't even know on what basis i'm supposed to decide what, here.
mircea_popescu: ists worth the mention" discussed in the article and so on.
mircea_popescu: one is that a coupla years of diligent work have gotten eulora to this position where it actually outgrew the intellectual basis of the community such as it is in pretty much every respect. many things nominally upstream would be inputs for this decision spot but are sadly absent, from "well... what about scheme then ?" coincidentally brought up avbove to the self-obvious "how did the western world produce 0 graphic art
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, let's restate this, so currently work on nailing down the comms protocol is stalled on a definitive universal data model, which is stalled on graphical use in the client, that about it ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, motherfucker, they force-inherited us with their idiotic everything-depends-on-everything-else model, did they!
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only lisp i use how shall we put this, on a day to day basis as opposed to some kinda ceremonial function
mircea_popescu: hanbot, a, that's actually a good point -- we might want to look into how gimp uses scheme for scripting
mircea_popescu: 56 stars ans 86 forks, if this ain't the mark of the times i can't imagine what'd be
mircea_popescu: in short, we might be one or two "cultural aspects" away from anything like a useful or usable version of common lisp. now go
fuck some teenie boppers on cam ; and when you're done have them eat your ass. ON CAM. and then maybe we lisp together, later.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, all solved problems begin their life as solved problems through first being closed ; a refusal to close problem and a tendency to "keep problems open" is in the end specifically what
neoteny even is.
mircea_popescu: but you don't ~like~ closed problems, or rather, you deem the putative existence of such a thing as closed problems as such a threat to your misconception of identity, it's almost like it's the koschei stealing the above-linked "cultural aspects" of
young female chest away from you.
mircea_popescu: and what i mean by "there's no more space" is rather a lot in the vein of "you lot chafe and get massively butthurt at even the faintest version of what that world would look like anyone [by which we mean me, for lack of alternatives] can come up with". lisp is a tool for resolving closed problems, not for floating about the endless uncharted seas [
http://trilema.com/2014/i-love-rochester-so-will-you/?b=try%20to&e=swim# mircea_popescu: the main problem (and the reason i don't come across as much of a lisp fan) is that since the 80s complexity exploded significantly ; there's no more space for proto lisp as represented by
mel ; nor for the classical lisp as represented by the defunct moron club.
mircea_popescu: THAT is the great value of lisp, in its classical form as understood by they regarded as luminaries by the "cultural aspects" crowd : that once you're done mentally digesting your problem, the peristalsis is as short and uncumbersome as it can possibly be.
mircea_popescu: does indeed dance with these wolves) ; and then once THAT is complete the solution takes five minutes of notation.
mircea_popescu: traditionally lisp coding consists of spending some time to ~well~ understand your problem ; the internal ast of
this digestion is not well fit for language (even though yes, the bleeding edge of human technologies & understandings as represented by trilema
mircea_popescu: ral carefully disolving every grain of actual thought into many galons of moosauce (which is what the "go playing" moo-engine even uses to identify "similar" bits "that might interest you")
mircea_popescu: we gotta think this through. and also let's see what jfw says and so on.
mircea_popescu:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-29#1956250 << i honestly think it's the right approach. "identify an useful iota of acceptable internal structure and measure everything in that". next step self-obviously being, "once pretty much everything's within the first sigma, take another look at what you mean by acceptable internal structure".
mircea_popescu: not to tar you with a well used brush, but it HAS been the experience to date.
mircea_popescu: naggum for that mattter is being whipped upside down in hell even as we speak, specifically for "wtf did you do with your calling, you schmuck, killed yourself before hearing it ?
TAKE IT LIKE A LITTLE BITCH".
mircea_popescu: one irresponsible twit gave himself fatal ulcer, the other and so on.
mircea_popescu: and of course fixing c compilation so it's no longer outrageous idiocy "that works" (tm) is precisely not a possible utilization of lisp because the fucking reason it even exist is so as to not have those problems, and so on.
mircea_popescu: sp systems that just _don't_ offer the serious advantages that solid Common Lisp systems do that people can't _afford_ to provide for free." carrying the day with me, but in larger part the actual absence of any serious problem (besides, ~perhaps~,
this) we actually could meaningfully use it for. you really don't need lisp to make a blog anymore than you need a
mircea_popescu: this is in part naggum's "in my view, Common Lisp provides _values_ that far exceed what other languages do, but I fully realize that people won't understand this until they have actually experienced the problems that it solves for them. now, what's _really_ sad is that those who want free Common Lisp systems have _not_ seen what the commercial systems provide in just this way, and they will go on to make free Common Li
mircea_popescu: in short : i honestly don't think deploying lisp ~at all~ is such a great idea, or should be done.
mircea_popescu: (sadly, there's a much better example, also in the form of a naggum exchange. it revolves around "common misconceptions" and such typically pantsuitist wooden tongue, but now i can't fucking find it. though i clearly remember discussing it recently(
mircea_popescu: "latest and greatest" asdf is exactly like all the other gpg 2.0 - gcc 19.firefox & assorted thunderbirds. and François-René Rideau aka fare is still
that infantile dumbass.
mircea_popescu always knew kicking mechanisms is legitimate maintenance technique.
mircea_popescu: imo this is from an earlier stage when the building blocks of what the problem was going to be were still being assembled.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i didn't imagine you had, no. just... you know, my own amusements, what can i say. tara mica da' vesela.
mircea_popescu: "Filozofia postului este că evenimentul guvernează programul, astfel încât în orice moment desfășurătorul de emisie poate fi dinamizat cu informații de ultimă oră."
mircea_popescu: pretty sure i insisted a thing be published at the end of what was a longish march if memory serves, and pretty sure i was gratified in it ; moreover i recall interacting with a nobject
mircea_popescu: was it on some old blog and never got moved, is that possible ?
mircea_popescu: btw diana_coman there's no ossasepia on the original "holy shit, ints!!" or am i just not finding it ?
mircea_popescu: chema/?b=Compared&e=be#select][bit], then eventually a small pile of actually useful and working code is left behind, implementing 108% or so of what the old pile actually did while removing 98% or so of what it had no business doing"
mircea_popescu: or to put it another way, i do not believe it is either intelligent or even tolerable to try and carry forward the "install" paradigm from derpworld. something much more akin to diana_coman 's work on eulora is what "get installed" will have to mean.
mircea_popescu: neways, as to the burning "OTOH, I wonder if things like Apache or imagemagick get installed, how will the package management system work out, and how comprehensible will system stay?" question -- i see the merit of using the clean spot as a fixed point to attempt expanding cleanliness. so, it would work by apache becoming tmserv or w/e, and not sucking anymore.
mircea_popescu: by ready availability of python or others." << indeed this is mindblowingly beautiful, and as far as i current;y know the foremost fearher in jfw 's cap.
mircea_popescu: "A feature that I liked a lot is that shell is the only scripting language in the default install of the distribution. Typically perl and python get pulled in unconditionally as a build dependency of a runtime dependency of some rarely-used default-installed utility, or are directly used to implement package manager, etc. With Gales, a decision about what scripting language to use can be made without constraints created
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, aite, i might be out for a few days seeing how it's new year but we shall resume in 2020
mircea_popescu: apparently now there's
drama about people i don't even recall ever hearing of. i have fiddy tabs open struggling to keep up with everyone over here and barely managing... it's like an xmas miracle or something.