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nubbins`: shouting at each other
through
the windows over
the screeching and smoke
nubbins`: i'm driving
the conversation here!
mircea_popescu: i didn't say it isn't. i said if it isn't
then it's not.
nubbins`: i can
take some lsd right now if i like
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: so
the
twin
towers falling wasn't an experience?
Apocalyptic: <herbijudlestoids> so
the analogy youre
trying
to make is everything i learned was "dont be stupid" and i couldve just figured
that out sober? // people like
to believe so, cause
the
thing is much more special and powerfull if achieved under
those circumstances
than banal
thinking
mircea_popescu: nubbins` something
that's not reproducible is NOT experience.
herbijudlestoids: i dun even know what im
trying
to convince you of really...its 4am and i paused
the movie for a sec and saw people
talking about salvia
mircea_popescu: but anyway, girl sitting on piano : "ever since i first heard
this
tune it haunts me"
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i watched some mae west movie recently. you ever seen
these
things ?
they're so much lol.
nubbins`: i know plenty of strung-out druggies who float
through life with sullen looks and dull eyes
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids
the analogy i'm making is
that what you
think you've learned and
the dataset you imagine you rely on are about as related as my girlfriend and your sister.
herbijudlestoids: so
the analogy youre
trying
to make is everything i learned was "dont be stupid" and i couldve just figured
that out sober?
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> just because you're in your desk, in school, doesn't mean you're doing math problems instead of doodling monsters <<< on re-read i suspect
this is highly autobiographical
punkman1: I
think most languages don't have a word for "fun"
mircea_popescu: he confessed he learned a valuable lesson from
this experience :
mircea_popescu: one day
that dumbass father destroyed
the family car, by
the process of pushing
the gas all
the way with
the hand brake engaged.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids lemme
tell you a story. a freind of mine had a dumbass father.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i learned about many personal flaws and managed
to correct some "in flatland", permanently. other flaws, still
there
nubbins`: but, y'know, some kids actually do
the math, and are sort of confused when someone
tells
them "school is just for horsing around anyway"
nubbins`: just because you can no longer distinguish
the border between your mind and
the outside world doesn't mean you're having an epiphany
mircea_popescu: i
think it actually serves better
than calling both "fun"
mircea_popescu: romanian makes
the distinction between fun and diversion
nubbins`: herbijudlestoids: well, it's just as easy
to have a bunch of fun
than
to learn something
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: i
think its very easy
to not bring anything back
to flatland...hard work
to "bring something back"...to learn a lesson
nubbins`: thanks dad, but can you sign
the permission slip?
teacher says
mircea_popescu: just don't come
tellin' me how central
the margin is
that's all.
mircea_popescu: i ain't about
to, what do you got
to make
things personal for.
nubbins`: so i really
thought i didn't like gravy. sue me!
mircea_popescu: it'd be convenient if
this could be stereotypically reduced
to
that, because you have a lot of experience with
that stereotype
nubbins`: "if i want gravy i'll eat some
tomato soup"
nubbins`: this could just as well be a conversation with a mother saying "but gravy is really good, you should
try it" and
the kid saying "but i don't like it"
mircea_popescu: if i feel like having depth i GO MAKE
THE FUCKING DEPTH
mircea_popescu: and if i feel like having sex i don't
try
to sneak into
the sheets of a couple
that fucked overnight just as
they leave for work, either.
nubbins`: you're saying
that because you haven't seen it
nubbins`: but wasn't it eye-opening
to see
that 3rd dimension?
nubbins`: find
third dimension, briefly escape Flatland.
mircea_popescu: ;;google
time is going by real slow i
think we might be dead
mircea_popescu: not even.
they're
trying
to find death already, which has been denied
them by all
the fucking kid safety devices.
nubbins`: the point you're making is
that
the lost kids do drugs
to
try
to find meaning
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: in australia, we got
these
things called doofs...its a psytrance party in
the bush...lots of
the attendants match your description
to a
tee...lots dont
Apocalyptic: <Skirmant> never understood why people were stupid enough
to keep using it
Apocalyptic: <Skirmant> it was quite obvious
that gox is a shitty exchange and you should avoided at all costs
mircea_popescu: the point needs
to be made
tho, because no fucking body seems
to.
mircea_popescu: god forbid
they experience something irl. lettuce "experiment" shit holed away in our concrete box.
Duffer1: i rather look forward
to cannabit's updates
mircea_popescu: and having bought into
this pop=psychology "self-realisation" and "discovery" bs.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids everything
to do with silk road, dude. it's
these kids who don't have
to work, can't learn as
there's no schools, having nothing
to do with
their
time
ozbot: [CANNABIT] Investment Details - Announcement & Discussion
Thread #cannabit
nubbins`: how's
that different from any other day here :D
herbijudlestoids: "bath salts" aka mephedrone or 4-MAR or MDPV or similar substances under
the same common name has little do with silk road and hugely
to do with
the proliferation of chinese generic manufacturers keeping
their factories open for an extra hour each night
mircea_popescu: so perhaps we are
talking at somewhat oblique purposes.
mircea_popescu: that laughable piece of shit
that couldn't sell one cocaine brick in one month,
nubbins`: well no shit people
talking about shit
that happened inside
their heads is banal
to everyone else
mircea_popescu: mind
that
this entire discussion started from "why would idiot 12yos snort bath salts" and is not unrelated
to
the "massive popularity" of silk road
mircea_popescu: because
that's how
the reality-function works in
the cowsy brain
mircea_popescu: then
they keep hearing about it from all
the other underemployed, bored and inept kids and start
thinking it's part of relaity
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i'm saying
that
the interest in otherwise uninteresting subject matter is driven by otherwise underemployed, bored and inept kids.
nubbins`: or, really,
the difference between
the people who did shit and
the people who want
to
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: well, you're describing
the difference between burroughs and
the wannabe burroughs
mircea_popescu: of course it's not explicable, dude. if I put 500 rems or 18
tesla
through my cpu
the errorlog won't show anything "Explicable"
mircea_popescu: "i don't even have
to be aspiring
that much, and it's ok being a miserable sack of shit"
herbijudlestoids: i dont really have any all encompassing philosophy around it. i dont believe
there is some energy or whatever hippy shit
nubbins`: if you ask me, he wrote
to stay sane
nubbins`: i don't even
think burroughs aspired
that much, guy was a miserable sack of shit
mircea_popescu: yaya, "substance subculture". it's all aspiring
to be picked up by
the book people like burroughs.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: not really dude, i view it as an extremely powerful psychological
tool...like i say, it helped me, i know. i dont really want
to convince you
to do it in any sense other
than your opinion should be informed
mircea_popescu: da fuck is
the guy's name, wrote
that disjointed journal
thing
nubbins`: KRS-One, careful, he
tells lies
KRS-One: 'scuse me i have
to
talk
to ozbot in private.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids seriously, you've built yourself
this silly whatshisname-wannabeism. it's not some sort of all-encompassing philosophy.
nubbins`: staring literal death in
the face is different altogether