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PierreCPA: so that firewall slows things down
PierreCPA: agreed, problem is there can be no overlap between accountants serving large companies (and these are generally the high quality accountants), and accountants serving Bitcoin non-SEC listed companies, due to liability
mircea_popescu: and the actual clients, of course, but that's slowly coming into place.
mircea_popescu: you need to be in the wot and have a reputation before you'll get demand from any clients
mircea_popescu: i think tho the consolidation of subsidiaries can be done easily by a) disalowing unlisted subsidiaries and b) mark to market.
mircea_popescu: hopefully more of that stuff can go in as more of your profession start being available for the corps to do the stuff.
PierreCPA: I started working on a similar project ( http://bitcoinadvisory.org/index.html ) but had to get a real job to pay the bills
PierreCPA: mircea_popescu reasonable approach. It does remove the BS parts of GAAP, but it also does not address complex issues like consolidation of partially owned subsidiaries, revenue recognition for installment contracts, etc...
benkay: ah, sorry? as in taking the burn for not spending btc at the right time?
mircea_popescu: the executive leadership is for taking the burns once it blows up
mircea_popescu: notrly. the duck does that part.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But you can feed devs pouridge and give it a fancy name like Soylent, its rather cheap. The zoo's Lions would be malnourished.
benkay: naively, at the last possible moment. more sophisticatedly, at the right time.
benkay: this is what executive leadership is for. deciding when to burn the btc.
mircea_popescu: benkay either that or "sorry, but we had to spend it eventually"
mircea_popescu: have you SEEN the eve devs ? i'd rather buy a zoo
benkay: well in three months time it'll be back to 'aha aren't you glad we didn't spend anything' again
nubbins`: nasty mining is, i believe, still a thing
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You finally bought the Eve devs?
benkay: oh minigame's looking to burn some cash?
mircea_popescu: anyway, all this is going in s.mg feb report, so.
mircea_popescu: which is always nice to have.
mircea_popescu: moreover, an important point to be considered is that the real assets of btc corps act as an absolutel bottom in the btc exchange.
benkay: "you can raise it, but now you have to spend it optimally"
mircea_popescu: "oh if only we had spent btc at 1200 to acquire real goods now worth 2x in btc"
truffles: benkay is that answer to my ? ^^
mircea_popescu: benkay speaking of that discussion, this month is quite the reverse.
deadweasel: also getting immune to deet
deadweasel: then they pretty obvi
deadweasel: until they fill with your blood and screw into your flesh
deadweasel: never see these, gotta look everywhere, because they have numb bites.
mircea_popescu: you only see them once they swell
mircea_popescu: they're about the size of afids really.
deadweasel: lyme ticks here have evolved to stay active in winter..
mircea_popescu: truffles from tic.
truffles: how does one get that?
mircea_popescu: let that be a lesson to you young man
deadweasel: haven't had to do it. nice to have it all ready in case of freak outbreak of something new. 3 weeks to a new phage, give or take.
deadweasel: you talking about bacteriophage, right?
deadweasel: i think antibiotics killed the lyme, im' got post-lyme disease syndrome, immune systems continues to battle invisible enemies
mircea_popescu: didja ever find the viruses you were looking for ?
deadweasel: i hadn't saved a gif link in years. that ws too good
mircea_popescu: awww ty deadweasel.
deadweasel: you dropped this earlier, mp https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/2666f75887c09590958eda247c8f15e8/tumblr_inline_mpl3opPOYZ1qz4rgp.gif
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Whip the kittens already
Jere_Jones: Oh, I am not of the belief that they have every dollar they should. I am just of the belief that I'll be able to get my coin out before the bottom falls out.
truffles: what about problems outside of their control
Jere_Jones: It is based on what I know of MtGox's backend, the transactions that are getting stalled, and how easy it would be to write a system to cause those problems.
mircea_popescu: how long does the average incompetent lotto winner take to be broke ? eh ?
Jere_Jones: No contingency. Just a belief that the problems are technical, not solvency. From what I can tell, mtgox is incompetent, not broke.
PierreCPA: thank you, I was going to sit back and lurk but had to ask that haha
mircea_popescu: PierreCPA o you the twitter guy ?
PierreCPA: Do you have a contingency plan if they go enter into bankruptcy? You have experience with the Japanese bankruptcy system and creditor claims?
mircea_popescu: yeah, and then what's the op to do ? you get the goxbtc and claim you didn't.
Jere_Jones: The escrow would hold the btc I send until I confirm receipt of the goxBTC.
Jere_Jones: Don't think so.
mircea_popescu: also, you need someone with a gox acct to escrow for you neh ?
mircea_popescu: that is possibly the most insane thing i heard ever since i heard of people "buying pirate debt"
Jere_Jones: I have coins that I don't need available immediately.
benkay: you must have coins to burn.
mircea_popescu: o get out. i'm not helping you do that. ☟︎
benkay: wow that's a bold position
Jere_Jones: I'm looking to swap some real btc for gox btc as I believe that, eventually, I will be able to withdrawl.
mircea_popescu: benkay that's sensible.
truffles: omg i here for the nubbins!
benkay: mircea_popescu relevant posts updated. thanks for the proofing ;)
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mego | The drugged-out sensation one gets when poring over spreadsheets or instruction manuals; acronym for "my eyes glaze over"
benkay: w/r/t proofing mircea_popescu, i learned from you to just write the thing, post it, and come back and tweak it if necessary later
benkay: well i was going to write a tcp client test harness today but then got distracted and this came out instead: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/02/08_when-you-know-you-done-fucked-up-but-cant-admit-it-in-public.html
mircea_popescu: talk about graceful degradations : tweets including references to #bitcoin-assets are auto-hashtagged "bitcoin" because that's how their parser works.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=452111.msg4977482#msg4977482 << ThickAsThieves check it out, quartz had another article.
Dimsler: only way to become rich these days is to steal it
Duffer1: i don't want stuff or things, i just want my mom to retire
B007: no need to work
duduqa: "<mircea_popescu> but today ?! what difference does it make, 99% of all derps live in the same exact conditions anyway" - this
mircea_popescu: but today ?! what difference does it make, 99% of all derps live in the same exact conditions anyway
B007: it is the new trend
mircea_popescu: how come everyone wants to be rich these days.
B007: I'm going to go play games
mircea_popescu: "Their roulette is technically provably fair and they are publishing complete results from previous day. But they are cheating in such naive way that they simply change outcome of roulette game when needed and later in published results from previous day they show different outcome, which is correct one but was not used."
ozbot: Beware: Bitcoin casino is cheating, changes outcome of their roulette
B007: mircea_popescu: I think then you just die from a dictionary
benkay: nasty mining is still a thing, innit? can't say as I've gotten much past april 2012
mircea_popescu: by the time you're done with that you're rich already and don't even know when you bought copumpkin a new bionic girlfriend/maid.
mircea_popescu: benkay nothing because iirc i was holding the whole load.
mircea_popescu: it never actually got to be a cogent point
benkay: but BS&T did fail to issue the number of promised bonds, and you were relieved of your obligation were you not?
mircea_popescu: then the forum cartel backtracked
mircea_popescu: the thing opened, all full of trepidation, abunch were bought
mircea_popescu: benkay "Predictably1, BS&T failed to issue the number of bonds they'd committed to, and Popescu was relieved of his obligation to pay out on the above synthetics."
mircea_popescu: they really seemed like they're competent for a while.
mircea_popescu: i r so disappoint with that thing.
mircea_popescu: a sort of kraken of 2012 as it turns out.
mircea_popescu: and meni rosenfeld moved on to to obscure turd pushing with what was going to become bitdaytrade
mircea_popescu: eventually glbse cratered and erased the thing.
mircea_popescu: after the synth price normalised and soon enough it was in the shitter.
mircea_popescu: because that's what counted for a market back then, a buncha forum tards being friendly
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the case there : at the time the difficulty had gone up maybe 50% over 3 months, the dividends were mostly absent and the thing still traded "At price"
mircea_popescu: there's some schmuck from the early days plainly stating it in some thread, "the ipo is not for investors to make money but for the company to make money" or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: of the sort that bubble up even today, with the braindamaged "trading closed for ipo" nonsense.