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Duffer1: you're not wrong benkay, call me a hopeless optimist
though, some may learn before
they lose it all instead of after
mircea_popescu: which is why you want
to do
that early and
then lurk here
deanclkclk: ok so once I sign up..how does one become
trusted?
benkay: Duffer1: just like people who'd benefit from BingoBoingo's advice on how not
to fail in bitcoin are
too wrapped up in
their silicon valley bullshit
to listen
to him.
deanclkclk: so let me get
this straight. He created openex and people are loosing money?
benkay: Duffer1: just like people who need
to read "so you want
to start a bitcoin business" can't get over
their egos and get it.
deanclkclk: means
that mircea_popescu recommended apocalyptic?
benkay: Duffer1: people who need
to read Variety Speak won't get it.
mircea_popescu: the news at 5, a string of mistakes
that eventually annul each other if long enough.
pankkake: I don't know who Apocalyptic is but people I
trust seem
to
trust him
Duffer1: MP you should have PR add 'dat variety speak' article
to her start a business
thread
mircea_popescu: but it didn't apply
to him, because
that was for all
the OTHER kids.
benkay: "so you want
to start a bitcoin business"
benkay: you also need
to read
the
thing you were linked way back up miles above
deanclkclk: so I need
to signup
to WOT. I haven't done so
Namworld: With
that, I'm gone. Got
to meet with
the family.
Namworld: I know you didn't mircea, just a random fact I wanted
to add
to it.
benkay: deanclkclk:
tech is a
trivial
thing.
pankkake: Apocalyptic: 1) add a SPF record
to x-bt.com 2) if possible set your reverse dns in something x-bt.com -
that will reduce your amount of spaminess greatly
mircea_popescu: deanclkclk get over
that.
techs are monkeys. nobody cares.
deanclkclk: most of
the problem with exchanges are
tech experience
deanclkclk: finance is good but, also
tech expertise
Duffer1: people want
trust (web of
trust), people want competence (any experience in finance or handling other's significant amounts of money?)
pankkake: my server greylists
things
that do not have SPF or proper SPF
Namworld: I just wanted
to go
through all
the details of why no one here is interested.
mircea_popescu: and Namworld comes
to
the same conclusion everyone else did, but after putting more effort and
time into it.
deanclkclk: I asked one at a
time
to get a feel of what people want
Namworld: I'm basically not going
to
touch anything you'd do.
pankkake: well Apocalyptic doesn't know how
to configure a mail server so I'm still waiting for
the activation mail
Namworld: You've just proposed x
then y
then z upon seeing
the first
things were already
there so wouldn't work. If you couldn't figure it out, you're not fit
to handle customer Bitcoins. Because when first
thing will work,
there won't be other
things
to
try.
mircea_popescu: deanclkclk dude srsly, nobody is using
the
thing of an unknown. you were here in channel when
this happened, openx just lost all its business because Apocalyptic.
deanclkclk: Again, I just started out in
trading about 4 months ago but, I'm a programmer
benkay: NOTHING FUCK OFF DIE AND GO AWAY EXCHAGES ARE
THE WORST AND ATTRACT
THE WORST
pankkake: or it's a "donate all
to exchange owner" feature
Namworld: Well
that wouldn't get me at all.
ThickAsThieves: i dont quite understand
the OpenEx withdrawal process, but we'll see...
Namworld: What about
them? What do you want
to do?
deanclkclk: no...apologies. I was
talking about
trading fees
Namworld: I don't know of any fiat
transfer mechanism without fees.
pankkake: there are fees for bank
transfers?
deanclkclk: and
the fees doesn't matter
to you guys right?
deanclkclk: how must of you guys get your money
to exchanges? bank
transfer?
Duffer1: i don't know of any one
that is insured
Namworld: The registered ones are not
typically insured.
Namworld: There's already BTC-e
to not be
tracked.
They don't require any verification as far as I know.
deanclkclk: but, most
traders don't want
to be
tracked
deanclkclk: the only ones credible I know are
the ones registered with finrar
mircea_popescu: deanclkclk so make a perpetuum mobile
then, why you wasting your
time with
this crap.
mircea_popescu: how come every day
there's some doofus who does nothing but parts and joins ;/
Duffer1: nono if (when)
the exchange is compromised and
the hot/cold wallets stolen it's insured
benkay: i want
that 50 sat back plz
benkay: i want bad
trade insurance
Namworld: Which I don't
think is feasible
to begin with.
deanclkclk: so for
traders here..what do you guys would want out of an exchange
that your currently not getting?
mircea_popescu: i
think most people go into
the press
trying
to make a job out of it.
Namworld: Some in here are
traders I suppose. Other are business owners.
Duffer1: I'm a clinger
that lost it all and hangs around for I don't know why
deanclkclk: so if you are not
traders or programmers...what
the fuck is
that profession?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves at
the rate we're going we soon might. you know
the joke with
the cadet and his horse?
Duffer1: it's highlighted in yellow in
the order book and all open positions are visible below
the order book, scroll down
deanclkclk: I've used btc-e and no way in hell I could cancel a
trade
that was partially filled
Duffer1: note
that half of
those are dead, and
the others are questionably/likely scams
pankkake: look, if you don't allow cancelling, you're going
to end up with nonsense very quickly
Namworld: I don't know of one
that doesn't.
deanclkclk: can you cancel a
trade
that's partially filled on
these exchanges?
pankkake: yeah I
think it's 2016 blocks, of 512 sec blocks
mircea_popescu: funny
thing is,
the r3wt guy will never know what exactly he missed by not being part of
things.
BingoBoingo: Sure, will
take a few hours
to move out.
That's usually
the lag on withdrawals.
Apocalyptic: hope you guys like
this order matching better heh
ozbot: Order (exchange) - Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
Namworld: You already get
the best ask/bid.
Namworld: You can select amount
to buy/sell in dollar or in BTC already.
Namworld: You CAN select
to buy 100 dollar of BTC.
The exchange already finds
the lowest asks and gets as much BTC as possible.
deanclkclk: well
that's not my experience with other exchanges folks...sorry
Duffer1: or if you do a market buy,
the 5$ buys from
the next order inline