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BingoBoingo: Things like gox fucking with order matching though need to be considered in these bets. Anticipating SatoshiDice would probably not be listed on MPEx for the full length of 2013 make pushed me to put a whole BTC on S.BBet being worth more back in February.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i can't find people to take these easy bets with
BingoBoingo: Well, if Gox keeps their order matching shennanigans up
BingoBoingo: cazalla: It actually looked better days ago when I pointed it out to KRS-One
BingoBoingo: Well, a lot of roads I have little occasion look much more impressive than they used to. Doesn't offer much utility though.
mircea_popescu: and so... you know, economic recovery. we've hired more people to do nothing, go us.
mircea_popescu: there are entire career paths financed on the public dole which consist of nothing but pretending like the crap matters,
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan well, it's like in any socialist state : some people go along because they hope to get something from it,
greenspan_fan: maybe? I honestly can't tell
chetty: does any real person care what the SJ crowd does/says?
greenspan_fan: is it really? or is that just something that everyone pretends to value because the alternative is constant broadsides from the SJ crowd?
mircea_popescu: for these schmucks it's nothing but an angle.
BingoBoingo: In the People
chetty: womenz in tech is an angle??
mircea_popescu: play the "womenz in tech" angle for maximum butthurt later on.
mircea_popescu: then get the girls together for the public pitch
mircea_popescu: go identify who the guys involved are, send girls to fuck each of them,
mircea_popescu: all you have to do is convincingly suck up.
BingoBoingo: greenspan_fan: To my knowledge they process applications in batches. Kind of like the Army except without the filtering to keep bona fide retards out of camp.
greenspan_fan: I think it would be worthwhile to apply w/ that idea, like a startup version of the sokal affair
greenspan_fan: is y combinator taking applications?
greenspan_fan: I already have a tagline: the world's newest profession
BingoBoingo: The original assass contains interesting things. The lesser assasses AOL it up.
BingoBoingo: I think we should replace this "content aggregating" with pankakke's brilliant term "assass"
mircea_popescu: but in that sense piratebay eats their cookie.
greenspan_fan: I worked at one point for a place that was getting into social media, but once you're out of that sort of giddy milieu it just doesn't seem like it's much of a priority
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan the self-perception of importance is pretty much the whole of the compensation.
greenspan_fan: if all your "employees" work for free, then everything else is profit
greenspan_fan: I think you underestimate how easy a content aggregator is to run
BingoBoingo: Eh, at least Gawker has some elements like Fleshbot that could survive. Huffington post and Buzzfeed though, lack even that.
greenspan_fan: because the self-perception of influence is part of the compensation
greenspan_fan: I wonder if the opining actually shapes matters, like, at all?
mircea_popescu: but hey, you know. cocksuckers making enough to pay for either their own coffee or their own sugar opine on matters.
BingoBoingo: A half a Bitcoin is pretty sweet. The equivalent in shitbucks not so much.
mircea_popescu: half a bitcoin a month on average. how's that for a bonus.
mircea_popescu: fun fact : back in 2008 (ie, as the crisis hit) denton suspended their bonus package.
mircea_popescu: nah, that's one of those venues which gets blacklisted in integrum.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The gawker rag Valleyway (the one with hedgec0k) has been running some lulzy bitcoin stuff you should probably have one of the girls archive.
mircea_popescu: all this derpage re @wesuck or whatever that thing's called reads to me a lot like "o hey we here at dead-fiat-ventures wish to make a last stand against this evil bitcoin empire"
moiety: yep exactly what they thought
BingoBoingo: Well the sufficiently paranoid could assume a bug was sewn into the cat.
moiety: it had been missing and turned up one day randomly where it shouldn't have been, so they got all suspicious of it lol
moiety: i thought it was hilarious when they accused the downing street cat of being a spy
BingoBoingo: Bunnies make the perfect sleeper agents
moiety: was not disappointed! lol wiki has a pic of the rabbit "swimming away from the President" ffs lol
moiety: lol! i didn't know about this "incident"
BingoBoingo: If it can happen to Jimmy Carter.
moiety: she's fucking feeding them!
moiety: people are so ridiculous. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/japan-woman-chased-by-stampeding-herd-rabbits-video-1437033 they say she makes a lucky escape....
ozbot: S.MG - Eulora v0.0.4 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
benkay: is there a bitbet on capitulation?
mircea_popescu: i suppose maybe maintain the appearance of things working in the eyes of complete noobs for an extra... hours ? coupla days ?
BingoBoingo: I'm impressed it took them this long.
mircea_popescu: if you put an order to sell they'll just delay it until someone bids enough.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bloctoc there is oyur answer : it stopped dropping because they've stopped executing orders under X value.
mircea_popescu: lmao check out this shit.
asciilifeform: is worth considering even if you don't like to play for coin. encourages slow games...
asciilifeform: this is so trivial, that if it does not already exist, it is purely from lack of interest in the game
asciilifeform: (someone is driving the payouts, but you can trivially verify, having only the blockchain, that he never did anything other than the Right Thing)
asciilifeform: you could play this right now, sans voodoo, and it would look quite like the 'provably fair' dice widgets
asciilifeform: sure, for a low stake game, the moves are the pot.
asciilifeform: of course, this is foolish, because we've the angels but not the pin-head.
asciilifeform: winner keeps the total
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: moves would be carried out by sending to an addr generated for the purpose
asciilifeform: (the pot would automagically move to the winner)
BingoBoingo: Then there's the part where M=0 stalemates exist.
asciilifeform: if the bip-whatever voodoo mentioned earlier actually gets baked into the blockchain, one could conceivably play this game
asciilifeform: and the like
asciilifeform: but then, repeated-move stalemates
asciilifeform: my 1st thought was 'referee has canonical enumerator for legal moves. player moves by encoding integer M'
BingoBoingo: Sure, but tightening that upper bound gets messy. Even 16 queens block each other, restricting movement.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can you quickly say, what is the largest number of legal moves possible for one chess player, in any position?
mircea_popescu: it also includes basic crafting and skill training and harvesting and recipes and stuff.
greenspan_fan: "if you want a picture of the future, it's us collecting a 3% transaction fee... forever"
greenspan_fan: it's a question of economics-- is subverting a cryptocurrency worth more to you than profiting from it?
asciilifeform: any one of you folks who wants to actually give this a go, scroll up the log to find the n-sat solver... haha
BingoBoingo: Depends on who finds the shortcut. If someone manages to math in a way that a GPU hashes like an army of buttfuries, they may just quietly collect coins. coins.
mircea_popescu: look throguh the math there, do your own calculations.
greenspan_fan: as an example, if you were paypal, could you afford to design, build, and power enough asics to wreck the network?
ozbot: Things that matter these days ; things that don’t matter these days. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce
asciilifeform: this is predicated on the assumption of brute force, though.
mircea_popescu: the computational cost of the network has been calculated, on trilema, it was scary back then. it's way worse now.
mircea_popescu: people are currently desperate to buy stuff to wreck the network with
asciilifeform: recommended reading: the different ways in which self-proclaimed alchemists were treated in various times and places.
greenspan_fan: how much would it cost to get enough hashing power to wreck the network? how long would you have to disrupt the network before it becomes far less valuable?
asciilifeform: the common factor between btc and gold, etc. is (no surprise to anyone, i hope) - behaviour as a closed (i.e. conserved) system, and easily verified as such
greenspan_fan: the things I'm thinking of are either flaws in the protocol, flaws in the software, concerted regulation or an attack via a sufficiently powerful adversary
greenspan_fan: the uncertainty comes from the second part, because it's a new protocol and it's difficult to predict what might impact your ability to exchange it
greenspan_fan: btc will continue to be valuable because it has previously been valuable and there's the expectation that, over some acceptable time period, you can exchange it
chetty: yeah you have, the use today of whatever you stored
mircea_popescu: if there's no future you've not lost anything.
chetty: storing value is actually a bet isn't it? That there will be a future to use it in.
mircea_popescu: seems to me it was purely a long term store.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> idea being, gold was never purely a long-term store <<< this will need fleshing out.
asciilifeform: precisely that.
asciilifeform: to complete the picture, 'dragon' turns out to be a peculiarly-shaped active volcano.
mircea_popescu: threowing a virgin that way once or twice is sensible.
mircea_popescu: roughly we're in the situation of "dragon moved in hillside next to village"
mircea_popescu: not that there's anything wrong with trying anything and everything on the beast.
greenspan_fan: trying to define why something is valuable is hard enough without also restricting the ability to spend it