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phf: btcbase will continue running the way it has been so far, and i will continue putting vpatches into patches at least until there's a replacement

phf: there's no need to znc, the entire archive of logs is available here: http://btcbase.org/log-raw/ with 2016-03.txt being the last kako file. the only outlier is tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt which is the dump mircea_popescu gave me of the prehistoric logs, which i have a custom reader for.

phf: asciilifeform: i'll genesis you the logger in the next two weeks. i'd rather you not waste time on it though. the design predates castles, so making it multichannel might be excessive amount of work. it's idiosyncratic, a product of the conversations from four years ago. your current approach seems a lot more solid.

phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926224 << perhaps quarter dead, but days go to going to hospital for daily wounds dressing, sleeping a lot and going for walks, i have another sugery on monday to close me up.

mircea_popescu: "a thirst for adventure" or how did the golden age rpg story go. a band of misfits with a thirst for adventure.

mircea_popescu: not that i invented it, it's what rimbaud did, it's what plenty of people've already done. not usually studied in girl school for girls, but that's entirely a diff story. and no, it doesn't usually work out.

spyked: mircea_popescu, it happens that I have a blogpost in the works just on that :D

mircea_popescu: spyked, amusingly, at the time seinfeld ran a bunch of morons were remaking it. "friends" (with that blonde dumb cunt, what's her name). it didn't work even then

mircea_popescu: one can't help but wonder what'd lynch done with a billion.

mircea_popescu: anyway. moron jew boy ended up buying a bunch of cars. in new york. that's what he needed a billion dollars for.

spyked: I saw a couple of episodes in a weekend (and another couple of "big bang theory") and I got the distinct feeling of "these guys are trying to remake seinfeld with another cast and variations on the ol' premise". i.e. they're not jews in NY, but nerds in LA or something like that

spyked: hm... two and a half men

spyked: logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926609 <-- incidentally, I started reviewing twin peaks about a month ago. and the part of it that is soap opera has aged horribly, while the part that is "david lynch mindfuck poetry" I still find brilliant. the man has a way of stirring frustration, I suspect he does it intentionally most of the time

spyked: my sense so far is that they (initially?) designed it to be a beast similar to Apache, rather than running behind it. it does multi-threading so it should be able to handle high loads pretty well. so if, say, I snipped the multi-threading bits out, I'd perhaps cut the code in half.

spyked: mircea_popescu, purely from the user's point of view, it works reliably as far as I can see. and two days ago I wrote a simple mock "comment eater" for thetarpit and was reasonably productive. I haven't found any major flaws yet, so I'll continue working through the code.

spyked: ah. yeah, not sure there's such a thing. as asciilifeform pointed out, cl seems to handle string'isms better... and as mircea_popescu pointed out, cl doing tcpisms is not much different from python

spyked: mircea_popescu, re. tmsr lang: could be one of two or three (or I dunno how many) langs, as long as tmsr owns 'em. atm there's no genesis for a cl compiler/interpreter (let alone e.g. networking code a la usocket, or a curl etc.), so... inb4 "fuck you spyked, I can't even compile sbcl, how do you want me to stand up your logotron"

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 01:57:33 billymg: ^ i put together a quick POC for e2e testing on mp-wp. i have to sign off for the night and will be away from my main machine this weekend but will be checking the logs/comments if anyone has any feedback

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926566 << "After pressing you will need to run npm install from the project directory in order to pull down just under 100mb of depshits in order for this to work." top keks. left you a comment, too.

diana_coman: onth now I still have to figure out where to stand a bot

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i noticed it too, takes a coupla secs for a longer page.

mircea_popescu: someone can then configure a local ~eater~ (taking, eg, bot cvs dumps) and have the logs (of w/e chan interests them) directly on their mp-wp. which means -- including the selection thing etc.

mircea_popescu: incidentally, lobbes or billymg i guess -- if either of you feel like futzing with it, having a logger bot that spits out days formatted for mp-wp into MPWP_posts table formatted into a category so one can just plug that into their blog will prolly be fantastic.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926703 << food for thought, not like there's a rush right nao

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:42:15 spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926421 <-- fwiw I personally use CL because it's the lang that allows me to eat most coad/hr; although looking at the "cl on pc is a dead end" thread, I'd throw it away without any remorse were there a "tmsr lang"

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926690 << i suspect there may be fundamental reasons for which there simply can't be such a thing as "a tmsr lang"

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926678 << goes right back to "when is a bunch no longer a bunch" discussion. luck is not a property of the lucky, it's a property of the world.

mircea_popescu: this is obviously a charicature, for one thing the not giving a shit works both ways, for another i'm getting old, and so following. but i suppose you get the idea -- to borrow alf's metaphore a sackfull of lymphocites ain't getting very far in life.

mircea_popescu: i'm the sort of guy who ~had to think~ school is cool, or else wouldn't have gone. as a nine year old. i'm the sort of guy who told his father where to stick it. as a teen. there's currently a whole regiment of women literally dedicating their life to interfacing as much of the world as possible so i don't start burning it down, because yes, absolutely, the moment i'm not happy with how things are going there i am, jerry c

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:09:28 trinque: this is curious, that "a world of mp will burn down"

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926681 << simple case of http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-a-final-thought-on-chos-mental-illness-adnotated/#footnote_0_85643

spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926574 <-- #spyked is currently a drop-in replacement for thetarpit comments (not for long tho, I hope) and a bot testing ground (and possibly a bit noisy because of that). otherwise it's defo open to the lordship and newbs, altho I'm not yet actively doing anything to bring the latter in. I expect there's an overlap between the types that'll pop up in #sp

diana_coman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926567 -> inquisitive teenagers age irrespective sounds about right (not that I'd turn out a hard-working, knowledgeable adult bent on doing useful work, age irrespective)

spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926520 <-- for trilemabot-voicer it works this way: the !!up + decrypt steps are manually operated; then the operator stores the OTPs in a list and the bot automatically !!v's them when it needs to up itself.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:54:51 mircea_popescu: freenode wants 1s delay between msgs, and bot seems to try and do that but maybe add a 50ms buffer on top or somethign ?

spyked: also, I guess there's also the fact that despite all its problems, there's a pile of CL code (e.g. hunchentoot, cl-irc) that works... very similarly to how wordpress does the job, despite its size and other warts. maybe Ada could also find similar pieces of code for Ada, but tbh I haven't looked... yet?

spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926421 <-- fwiw I personally use CL because it's the lang that allows me to eat most coad/hr; although looking at the "cl on pc is a dead end" thread, I'd throw it away without any remorse were there a "tmsr lang"

mircea_popescu: you give out a little bit of yourself each time. and eventually, down the road, after enough dealmaking, you discover there's nothing actually left. this is very much the equivalent of alf's point re "only so many lines of code in one before insanity", except for business people, those who are too dumb to realise it on their own.

mircea_popescu: anyway, re city hall : it's a collection of platitudes, like any usian "deep" / "philosophical" movie. but it's a collection of ~well chosen~ platitudes, like the better such are, and in it incidentally pacino explains the problem with the dealmaking model :

trinque: it makes an immediate kind of sense that outside the edifice of meaning you need a destructive process

trinque: this is curious, that "a world of mp will burn down"

mp_en_viaje: 3) the whole of it was always hanging out with the cool people. i don't mean, "cool", as in, swag. i mean cool as in david lynch quote above, dork bought a 12 room house for $3500 in th worst gangland he could find for his wife and newborn kid and lived there, "the fear was palpable"

mp_en_viaje: 2) i never made money, i always made power. the money was coincidental. i never made all the money there was to make or could. nor did i ever give much of a shit, i'm utterly not constructive, a world of nothing but mp will burn down.

trinque: as for me, I find myself in a mostly unintelligible froth of nonsense

mp_en_viaje: this is utterly fucking false, of course. the telegraph doesn't get in a month the daily readership of trilema. but i think the ~pervasiveness~ of the antiquated, and mistaken, worldview may rub off on people.

mp_en_viaje: there's this default idea in the general populace, that a) somebody reads the raped-and-left-for-dead husks of ye olde gatekeepers and that b) it's still myspace days on internet, nobody reads "your webpage"

mp_en_viaje: while in kiev i met this brit (at the time masquerading as this local girl's sub, but w/e). as a joke, socially, i said i'm the most pretentious guy you'll ever meet, and when he asked for sauce i told him it says so right on my own blog. he found this a most excellent bon mot, "oh, that's perfect, you webpage nobody reads, not like the telegraph or something".

trinque: behold mp_en_viaje, I have brought you a particular arrangement of dorkly turds.

trinque: ha, I was just writing a few lines re: cuntoo

trinque: it's a boiling fucking hatred.

trinque: the only reason to get on one is a republican reason.

mp_en_viaje: tell hanbot about it, i got her a t450 two days ago, she's ~still~ working on it.

trinque: if this is becoming a reality, I am present for the transition to in-wot crypto, by god.

mp_en_viaje: we'll of course have to lock down a format for it, too.

mp_en_viaje: only nowadays, with ffa and eucrypt & rest of stuff as they are to provide a basis, im starting talk of things such as http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-goes-dark/#comment-130709

mp_en_viaje: a little bit.

mp_en_viaje: publish a breakfast shot sometime. it's so much better than nothing you can't imagine.

mp_en_viaje: trinque, prolly should publish said records as a "testing harness", so new bots can be tested against ?

mp_en_viaje: it ~takes something~, something inside, to be someone. it's not a natural byproduct of tube socks and your mom loving you.

mp_en_viaje: i'd very much propose a read of david lynch's biography to all the "oh, i'm unmotivated" middle class dorks.

trinque: handing over feeds was iirc a quite public matter, where spyked picked it up.

trinque: diana_coman: saw on a recent post on a blog that you supposed some decay re: the deedbot operator.

mp_en_viaje: been a while yea

a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 07:35 mp_en_viaje: in other "optionality/failure" lulz, i'm re-reading http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-anjie-well-actually-let-me-do-anjie-while-you-watch/ because i linked it recently because i used a subpoint from it (the thing about STD gender disparity).

mp_en_viaje: (idea is, you !!v a buncha times and safely decrypt, then store the otps use as needed. this was discussed years ago, it's good cuz it don't expose the keys on bot's iron)

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 20:50:19 lobbes: iirc spyked actually already has a vpatch for a gpgism that uses the "stored otp" method

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:01:01 mircea_popescu: ^ anyone else actively maintaining a castle i forgot in the list ?

mp_en_viaje: will also be interesting to see what the intersection of demographics is / what's overlapped / what's left out. from a purely sociological pov.

mp_en_viaje: such that newbies can be met with "you should talk to X" instead of "i'm not interested, go away" or EVEN WORSE "[i'm not interested] but i'm going to go through the motions anyway, out of a feeling of obligation"

mp_en_viaje: i dunno, i'm kinda guessing here. maybe it's worth it for everyone to spend a moment think about it, make some definite statements, so each can redirect accordingly ?

billymg: ^ i put together a quick POC for e2e testing on mp-wp. i have to sign off for the night and will be away from my main machine this weekend but will be checking the logs/comments if anyone has any feedback

asciilifeform: grade-a lulz

lobbes: not complete yet, but what I was able to get done tonight at least. Currently eats a single dir full of ZNC logs (assumes the format of e.g. "2017-03-25.log"), puts the files in chronological order, and shits them all into a single .txt files

feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/08/more-than-a-quarter-of-us-c-130hj-grounded-over-structural-concerns/ << Qntra -- More Than A Quarter Of US C-130H/J Grounded Over Structural Concerns

asciilifeform: ( 'meld' is prolly the 1 graphical proggy asciilifeform uses with regularity. eventually will have to bake a tmsr incarnation... )

lobbes is grunting out the ZNC shitter as we speak. luckily has some .py code already that parsed a dir full of ZNC; hopefully can get it out tonight

lobbes: Re: my php logotron, I still intend to grunt that out, vpatch it, and stand up loggers. In addition I have no plans to discontinue any of my existing infrastructure either (auctionbot will keep auctioning; and when I die I have already vpatched it so someone else always pick up the torch). To be clear: Going forward, I will be voluntarily be stepping into knighthood so as to have a clearer focus and

lobbes: i.e. I issue a command, and then the bot handles the rest

lobbes: iirc spyked actually already has a vpatch for a gpgism that uses the "stored otp" method

lobbes: it would be a patch off of the command_router_python, however

lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926199 << indeed gpgism, but it is not automatic. Plus you have to keep the bot's key on the iron running the thing. I can produce a vpatch once I get the znc-eater-shitter done (or asciilifeform beats me to it. whichever comes first)

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:54:51 mircea_popescu: freenode wants 1s delay between msgs, and bot seems to try and do that but maybe add a 50ms buffer on top or somethign ?

mircea_popescu: freenode wants 1s delay between msgs, and bot seems to try and do that but maybe add a 50ms buffer on top or somethign ?

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926447 << i guess i already saw them all so yes. but in general, kinda needs a permafix

asciilifeform: ( it gives you a faux-thread abstraction so can call e.g. blocking read() , but it dun actually parallelize )

asciilifeform: there's a place, at least for so long as we're doing tcpisms, for langs with garbagecollector etc.

diana_coman: yes, my current understanding is exactly that - it's a stink anyway and unavoidably so might as well use python, at least it's quick and relatively clear

asciilifeform: currently there aint a 'tmsr lang' in which can readily write wwwisms. (i dun even have a tcp end for gnat atm)

asciilifeform: ever since 1st had to write a wwwistic proggy (phuctor front)

diana_coman: and I find out I didn't miss at all not using python for years; onth no idea what else would be better for such a task since it can't be really clean anyway

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as you can tell from last coupla comments on your www, even there i missed initially a spot of retardation (fleanode lets you auth, but if you join ~immediately~ then won't be authed for purpose of +r chans. this is documented nowhere.)

PeterL: It's been a while since I coded a bot, is it possible to send a PING when you hit timeout rather then going straight to reconnecting?

mircea_popescu: so far i dun see a problem.

asciilifeform: initially i considered to have two-headed bot, with a slave who is kept around strictly if master falls. but this not implemented yet.

asciilifeform: ( atm if <1min ago, says nuffin. prolly oughta put in a 'now' etc )

mircea_popescu: it's a data visualization, back then i ran a ro digg ; that's users / activity.

asciilifeform: for instance right nao anyone leasing a box on piz, can hear the pw

asciilifeform: btw here's a headache : seems like fleanode dun support hashed pw. at all.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, conceivably. besides, he has a point, not bad to have another one.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : at the very least, would ~very~ much like there to be at least a 2nd logger, somewhere other than piz, for redundancy