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ThickAsThieves: An interest rate of ~22%/year (0.38%/week) based on EUR/BTC value at time of issue (eg. ~€0.0032 / bond / week.
mircea_popescu: but wait i don't understand. work me through this will you ?
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benkay: what's the counter-thesis?
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bim4lUsIQAIxojO.png << from the "i can prove anything" department
mircea_popescu: ok which one of you guise is this ?
benkay: you know what you did mircea_popescu. you shattered my faith in the ever-victorious empire of capitalism.
mircea_popescu: Merry Lopan / Jolly Lopan. let the cutsy translation live 4ever :D
mircea_popescu: o look, they're moving in
mircea_popescu: we just wanna fish bits from the river.
ThickAsThieves: dunno if he was anyone important enough to stop the madness though
ThickAsThieves: after speaking, he was like well shit, this really is toxic huh
ThickAsThieves: i had someone from CT soliciting me to list a PT this week
mircea_popescu: and speaking of tcb
mircea_popescu: well in that case neither are back
ThickAsThieves: you'r eback when you tcb
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well that i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: apparently even nails for the guns are in short supply
mircea_popescu: one jew to the other "heh heh see ? they're clearly losing the war, can't even afford the bullets anymore"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform coupla jews, awaiting to be shot by the nazis. at the last moment, a courrier arrives with orders to hang them instead
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the profession has one of the largest suicide rates.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know the "nazis are losing the war" joke ?
ThickAsThieves: are finance deaths always this common and merely now more publicized?
mircea_popescu: Neil since you mentioned jtd, you ever read the original mpoe prospectus ?
ThickAsThieves: and most of the bonds are held by like 5 people
dexX7: "For the purposes of the examples below we have used a price of €85.00 EUR/BTC. An interest rate of ~22%/year (0.38%/week) based on EUR/BTC value at time of issue (eg. ~€0.0032 / bond / week)." ... "100,000 bonds"
ThickAsThieves: but i'd have to look it up
ThickAsThieves: i recall it being far less than 1000 holders
ThickAsThieves: and i processed tons of shit by hand to render those people whole
ThickAsThieves: AM100 on BTCT probably had the largest qty of shareholders
ThickAsThieves: she also makes it like there are 1000s of holders
ThickAsThieves: probably not even $1 expense to solve
ThickAsThieves: thats why i offered to pay to round it up
ThickAsThieves: the tiny dividend excuse is obnoxious
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 19.93320684 BTC to 3`708 shares, 537573 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.19372696 BTC to 3`708 shares, 59162 satoshi per share
ThickAsThieves: than the bond
ThickAsThieves: of course you probly more mean the PT
ThickAsThieves: just the buying pressure was strong
ThickAsThieves: i shoulda listened to myself
dexX7: i remember what you said at the very beginning via pm when i asked about your standpoint. in the end i can only say: you were right
ThickAsThieves: never intended to hold them
ThickAsThieves: i'd be happy just to redeem them
ThickAsThieves: i dont even track it honestly
ThickAsThieves: i got caught with pants down trying to trade that shit
dexX7: good job then
dexX7: "we can't pay divs because of the size of the smallest output" oh well
ThickAsThieves: surprised all it took was threats
ThickAsThieves: this is all contributing to my spider sense beginning to tingle yesterday
ThickAsThieves: well shit, now Kate is back the same day as Deprived...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 0.23396500 BTC to 320`500 shares, 73 satoshi per share
dexX7: asciilifeform: what do the trezor guys wrong for example? i didn't really follow the progress
dexX7: well, i never would rely on it, but i think most act in good faith, others are like "omg someone will exploit this" but don't do anything and a tiny subset may actually try something nefarious
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asciilifeform: dexX7: i bet most people don't try to exploit stuff << 'you may not be interested in war, but war is certainly interested in you.'
ThickAsThieves: i think Deprived is just claling bullshit on anyone actually seeking counsel and confident everyone is too lazy to get back-invoices
mircea_popescu: dexX7 yeah. and most people are too naive to be involved with tools as powerful as btc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one of these days write the specifics out rather than the vague summary, you can join the club of slanderous souls.
dexX7: i bet most people don't try to exploit stuff
mircea_popescu: i wonder wtf people be thinking.
mircea_popescu: i could trivially have any of my counsel write me infinity bills and bleed him dry.
asciilifeform: the 'trezor' stuff is almost physically painful to read. it's as if they knew every single correct design decision, and did... the exact opposite.
mircea_popescu: "If anyone incurred costs taking legal advice in respect of my absence then please PM me and I'll look at reimbursing it (copies of invoices would be required)."
mircea_popescu: whoa look at that, deprived is back form the dead to call craigate a scammor ?!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves now how the fuck did that end up there http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20bh0w/richest_address_since_2011_until_2014_has_made/cg1mo8a
mircea_popescu: imsaguy i knew that, actually.
mircea_popescu: only the [intellectually] poor actually rely on it, and that's a community you never want to serve
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves search definitely could use some help. the problem is that by now, it devolved into the www equivalent of the check \cashing service
dexX7: i'm asking about deprived, because there was also creativx, another us issuer who vanished after btct who had a rock solid reputation
mircea_popescu: ughlol_afk that's ok, you're not the first one.
imsaguy: Did you know that the venom from the Brazilian Wandering Spider (World's deadliest spider) causes an erection in men? They want to use it in place of viagra.
dexX7: was he in the us?
ThickAsThieves: youre welcome for the idea mircea! ;)
ThickAsThieves: relevant to yesterday's Top 500 conversation: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20bh0w/richest_address_since_2011_until_2014_has_made/
ThickAsThieves: mp your google article seems to make my Search Party "idea" seem that much better
ughlol: sorry to disturb you all
ughlol: but thats just my problem
ughlol: and was born into the wrong damn community of misers
ThickAsThieves: <ughlol> But a social network. Im looking for investment. /// boy did he come to the wrong place
ughlol: Im sorry about that.
ughlol: Honestly, I first thought you were some random guy full of ego and trolling me
mircea_popescu: (ask all these other dudes who live in western countries, the entire girl thing makes 0 sense to them, for isntance)
mircea_popescu: which is why there's no such thing as "an idea".
mircea_popescu: which is the fucking point here. we gotta know you in order for anything you say to make any sense
mircea_popescu: if i didn't know that it'd have never made sense.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it makes so much sense, because you told me you're from india and i knew how to construct it.
mircea_popescu: so then there you go. same applies.
ughlol: Thats true.
mircea_popescu: except nobody gives a shit what ugly girls think on any topic.
mircea_popescu: which i suppose is very sad for the ugly girls,
mircea_popescu: we don't want that, so, unless she's pretty, she's screwed. (otherwise, she's fucked).
mircea_popescu: so here's the scoop : if we don't kill the ugly ones, they will slowly multiply and take over.
mircea_popescu: me too.
ughlol: Im one of them! :)
mircea_popescu: fuck them ?
ughlol: Its sad for people that want to do something but cant
mircea_popescu: i happen to think it's great.
ughlol: and thats just so sad
mircea_popescu: the world isn't structured so as to make it possible for you to survive.
mircea_popescu: try understanding this part : nobody cares.