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benkay: best way
to not lose btc is
to not do anything with 'em
BingoBoingo: So far
their winddown doesn't seem scammy. I managed
to get my coins out. It's also likely
that running
the
thing just was
too much of a hassle.
Then again, it could get really scammy.
benkay: "Its very bad news why are you going
to do
this I am very upset need
to rethink about
this"
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BingoBoingo: mike_c: It seems more likely
that BTC denominated sports betting is shrinking in
terms of BTC bet
ThickAsThieves: 'Mr. Pierce said GoCoin’s analysis of
the dogecoin community revealed a demographic very different from bitcoin’s, including many more women and less-tech-oriented users. He believes
this in part stems from dogecoin’s logo'
ThickAsThieves: 'When it comes
to currencies, “community is everything,”'
mike_c: bitbet is showing
that parimutuel sports betting isn't
that big yet..
BingoBoingo: benkay: Well, hedging on Bitbet would require sufficient betting interest in
the event
to make
the event worthwhile
to BitBet, and BitBet is showing sports betting with BTC isn't
that big of a Market
benkay: hold/build/whatever
the appropriate
terminology is
benkay: BingoBoingo: can't you use Bitbet
to hold
the line?
benkay: did we rid -assets of
the rapist?
ughlol: I'll come back on
this chan when I have
the app ready and runny, and
then make fun of benkay! (Just kidding).
ughlol: Thats great! :)
Thanks guys.. will do. Saved
this chat for reference and
to remember
the suggestions.
HowardF: focus more on support
than prevention (though you can definately do both), and focus on grants from non-profits
HowardF: indeed... just a few
tweaks and i actually
think you have a workable idea.
ughlol: haha, I wish
to make an investment from my social network and leave
the USP
to actually help rape victims.
Azelphur: at
the very least you can help some people after
the fact, I'd
think
Azelphur: hopefully you can make a nonprofit app
that does
the
things we mentioned, like sending out a humanitarian lawyer and someone
to help
ughlol: sorry
to waste all your
time guys
ThickAsThieves: you could make
the app and charge DV shelters
to implement custom localized versions
HowardF: not as insulting, no, but probably also not anywhere near enough
to make it worth while.
Azelphur: ughlol: nope,
this idea is a nonprofit
ughlol: Not highly profitable, but we can make
the break-even.
ughlol: Would
that also be insulting?
ughlol: How about asking rape victims
to donate after
they get saved due
to
the app.. just
to help other future rape victims?
Azelphur: I
tend
to aim at $0 initial when I'm making new
things
HowardF: i
think you're just in
the wrong room
to discuss
this particular project
ThickAsThieves: yes you might be able
to get a DV shelter
to get a grant for it
HowardF: profit with
this app is pretty much out. but non-profit support isn't
ughlol: HowardF: yes,
thats another great idea. Wow. I love discussing
this here! :D
The lawyer idea.. amazing.
Thanks. *Noted*
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Legality wise I'm sure I could just say
the book is part of
the "Enhanced Reality game Bitcoin" like Micon does
ughlol: Whatsapp isn't difficult
to replicate.
Azelphur: HowardF: now
that's a good idea
HowardF: actually
that again brings up
the point of support rather
than prevention. it could also summon a human rights / free lawyer
to prevent indias corrupt police from harrasing victims
Azelphur: there's another host
that is even cheaper, I just can't remember its name off
the
top of my head
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu:
The biggest obstacle I'd face putting
together a book, especially a BTC one would be getting lines and bettors on
those lines such
that I could make vig intsead of propping up
the otherside of every line.
ughlol: or
they
tell
the victim
to compromise and drop
the case
ughlol: police actually lockup
the victim, and also rape her a couple of
times..
thats
the reality in inda
Azelphur: ughlol: hell yes, even less now man,
this was 10 years ago
Azelphur: I probably still have
the chat logs from
that somewhere, haha
Azelphur: I had
to go
to
the host and specifically request a 32MB VPS,
they didn't sell
them, and
the host actually
told me I was crazy and
that I couldn't even get
the OS
to run in
that. But I did, and everything else I needed :)
ughlol: but yes, I wont argue anymore considering
that
there is no profit in
the idea.
ughlol: these
things require some amount of investment
ughlol: (assuming i coded
the app on my own)
ughlol: $20 cant even buy me a second had server capable enough
to handle location services etc.
Azelphur: ughlol:
that was
to disprove
the whole you can't start from $20 and skill argument.
ughlol: Azelphur: wow.
That does look nice :)
ughlol: Yeah, 7000usd = 4,28,190INR. And
thats more
than 4months of my fathers salary.
Azelphur: those were
the days folks,
those were
the days.
Azelphur: note
the CRT monitors with
tube burnout, laptop with a piece of string supporting
the screen, and
TV with smashed in buttons.
HowardF: if you know java, it shouldn't cost you anything but
time
benkay: shouldn't cost you more
than seven grand.
ughlol: I agree. I'm currently working on
the prototype.
HowardF: i would say working on a prototype before asking anyone for an investment is
top priority
though. money for ideas doesn't happen without something
to back it up
Azelphur: so don't start crap about you need capital, you're in
the wrong place for
that ;)
benkay: no, you're missing
the point.
this app on a phone isn't changing anything.
HowardF: your missing
the point benkay. everybody already carries a phone. no need
to change existing habits
benkay: those are
things
that i'll buy might have a shot at changing a rape event's outcome
benkay: what about martial arts
training?
HowardF: also, if you actually look at rape statistics, its rarely a quick
thing, and often
theres a period of lead up before
the actual rape, so its usefulness may be greater
than you guys
think...
ughlol: benkay: do you have a
twitter profile?
benkay: you don't need money
to change
the world, just passion and drive, right guys?
ughlol: Not just
talk about it.
Azelphur: ughlol:
that's
the
thing, I can't even
think of any situation where
this app would work, at all
benkay: to you, just
talking about it makes you feel like you're doing something
to help
benkay: nope, shooting down shitty ideas makes
the world a better place.
Azelphur: but
that's about all it'd be good for
ughlol: thinking
that it can't help 100% of
the rape victims
Azelphur: HowardF: yea
that was my
thinking, it'd be good for after care
ughlol: and just bitching about every idea
that exists
ughlol: its better
than doing nothing
benkay: fat load of use
this
thing will be anyways.
ughlol: benkay: pls scroll up, we discussed
that a bit..
benkay: fat load of use
this
thing will be.
benkay: what if
they're on a
train?
HowardF: based on
the assumption someone is being raped / hurt, i imagine it only has
to be accurate enough
to get within earshot of someone screaming
Azelphur: by
then
the attacker is probably done and gone
Azelphur: best case scenario
to get
to
the destination is 10 minutes I'd say, even if it was just around
the corner
ughlol: I
think GPS should do
the
trick.
Azelphur: but yea, GPS is
too far man,
that won't work
ughlol: Nobody wants
to be
the hero.
ughlol: Azelphur: Little girls scream for help, and nobody cares. Nobody wants
to interfere.
HowardF: some larger ones may well be willing
to sponsor or provide a grant.
Azelphur: tl;dr what you want is a rape whistle, it's better
than anything you've mentioned
HowardF: i would look for / seek out help from organizations
that already deal with rape and rape victims.
there are lots, and
they would be a good place
to start
Azelphur: and if you're having codes and patterns...yea
that's so not gonna work