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ThickAsThieves: ironically i probly used it to determine i should ask for a refund on my BFL
mircea_popescu: seems to have started jan 2013, then taken a 11 month break to december
ThickAsThieves: bitcoinx is pretty old, i doubt anyone here runs it too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> a master machinist eats very well even today. << yes, but he's not in a union is he.
mircea_popescu: they rationalize away "oh but bitcoin will never be smarter than us". sure it won't. then mp comes, and you're beyond fucked.
davout: we do get some press, but usually it's paymium that's mentioned
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete that's EXACTLY where the bad news starts for them.
benkay: what do you take me for?!
benkay: look, end-users are responsible for their own security. it's not fucking secure.
benkay: look, there are no exchanges. there's no exchange rate.
chetty: show me the money / err alarm
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make (1 more message)
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.71, Best ask: 625.58, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 623.7, 24 hour volume: 6843.50990414, 24 hour low: 619.46, 24 hour high: 635.0, 24 hour vwap: 626.355003951
Apocalyptic: "The recent collapse of bitcoin exchange Mr. Gox has caused alarm in the industry about the stability and security of the virtual currency" // they must include that everywhere...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.33749062 BTC to 3`951 shares, 59162 satoshi per share
Apocalyptic: interesting, missed that
asciilifeform: i thought this was old news.
hdbuck: asciilifeform: nothing, just that he confirmed to me that banks have already started to deal with btc behind the curtain
hdbuck: analysts at Citi Group told me he got offered to have his sort of pension fund in BTC?! such pokerface those banks. ^^
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought that the slow cooling of the 5k background hum was already 'smoking gun.'
asciilifeform: even though he will not turn the cranks by hand.
asciilifeform: a master machinist eats very well even today.
asciilifeform: the result was, apparently, in the words of those living then, 'production of scrap metal at very high speeds.'
asciilifeform: historical note. when CNC machining was new, various business folks had delusions that they could be rid of the need to hire machinists.
asciilifeform: very few of the grads know anything but the most surface treatment of why the sim works the way it does
asciilifeform: e.g. electrical engineering, at today's universities, largely consists of learning to crank CAD and sims like SPICE.
asciilifeform: people far from engineering would be astounded at how much of every widget is already designed 'automatically,' for any reasonable sense of the word.
blackwhite: welding robots do not have to design their own cars for cars to be designed automatically
ozbot: It’s The People, Not The Protocol, Stupid | When Bitcoin Met Pete
bitcoinpete: "In manufacturing, technology eliminates and relocates jobs, but welding robots will never design their own cars. It ain’t gonna happen. In finance, jobs on Wall Street and in The City will be eaten up by Bitcoin, but the invention of the distributed blockchain can’t replace creativity and trust. Kurzweil’s singularity be damned."
asciilifeform: grunts who are actually sent out in the field are usually more muscular-looking.
asciilifeform: they're probably 'desk flyers', though
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's so special about those?
mircea_popescu: this is what the us army has come to be, btw : those blondish dudes in a buzz cut with glasses.
wao-ender: Studies suggest that higher doses of xanthones may depress the central nervous system in animals and cause sedation.
mircea_popescu: is this a lowtax plot to troll the world ?
Apocalyptic: what's that ?
asciilifeform: any cargo is hazardous if the fellow with the remote control (usg) would rather that it not reach destination.
ozbot: No hazardous cargo, just tonnes of mangosteens on flight MH370, says airline CEO - The Malaysian In
asciilifeform: who has a link (crackpot or otherwise) to the 'fifty reserved seats' thing?
wao-ender: > which, to me, suggests there was something either hidden in the mangosteens or the manifest is fraudulent
wao-ender: > i don't see how they can make that up from shipping 3-4 tons of mangosteens
Mats_cd03: we'll find out six years from now that they've been dead all along and were never actually on the island
wao-ender: 'military' hm, how can you know that military doesn't hiding something from public?
mircea_popescu: yeah, wouldn't make much sense to limit themselves to that.
Apocalyptic: pretty sure military radars don't give a fuck about transponders or not
chetty: well then we get to how may military vs civiliand radars along the way
mircea_popescu: yeah but all of them ?
chetty: I wonder have radar setups gotten lazy? that is only bothering to look for transponders?
mircea_popescu: radar is basically video in lower wavelengths, it's not that different.
Apocalyptic: I suppose you could achieve that with a special setup with multiple coordinated radars
Apocalyptic: either it reflects the waves or it doesn't
wao-ender: dunno how they made it, but this conspiracy with sia68 is really interesting
mircea_popescu: well so then they're visibly distinct
wao-ender: I think mh370 flying at different altitude
mircea_popescu: leaving aside how incredibly dangerous it is (engines also need air, may likely stop etc), it's just not possible to smoothy fly that way
Apocalyptic: that i would be more likely to believe
mircea_popescu: and you'll probably fall for 100s of feet at a time because of inertia etc.
mircea_popescu: basically if you try to fly a boeing behind another you'll just fall
mircea_popescu: in order for it to generate enough force to keep all those tons in the air it has to have a certain density and flow pattern
mircea_popescu: anyway, getting back to the airflow problem : in racing the road keeps the cars up, but in flight planes are kept up by their drag
Apocalyptic: anyway satellite pictures should determine that
mircea_popescu: if they actally thought that they'd have reported the aliens invading o.O
mircea_popescu: so how do you figure two 80 meter long objects a mile apart could appear the same one object
Apocalyptic: not a military one though
wao-ender: also, I'm reading, there was 50 seats blocked for some special cargo on the plane?
mircea_popescu: there are occasionally accidents where a car follows a leader too close and ends up losing contact with the ground because of the disrupton in airflow
mircea_popescu: in racing however the road is there to keep the cars up, and turbulence only causes a problem at high speeds, because the cars are designed so that the air pushes them on the ground.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, he could stay at a reasonable safe distance while still being close enough to show as 1 spot on the radars imo
mircea_popescu: if you watch racing, it's like the slickstream
mircea_popescu: the problem is mostly the turbulence
wao-ender: I think for upthrust is one km still safe
mircea_popescu: in fact, it's unsafe for them to be even within one kilometer of each other.
mircea_popescu: wao-ender large boeings can't fly that way.
Mats_cd03: dinosaurs behaving like the world still belongs to them
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cazalla: i breed NZ whites for meat, some of them would do the exact same thing or even bite if i harassed them as in that video
cazalla: patting a rabbit with an open palm (as in the video) blocks it's vision which can make it become defensive
BingoBoingo: First Newsweek, now Time Magazine http://time.com/25600/watch-a-bunny-throw-a-tantrum-whenever-he-isnt-getting-pet/
hdbuck: im new too, delighted to finally make it to the high sphere, have read the logs about what happened on the 4th of feb.. still trying to figure it all out. cheers. :)
mircea_popescu: isthisreallyreal you need to stfu and read now, before you go on everyone's ignore.
kakobrekla: whats that
isthisreallyreal: and btw, have you heard of thecoinbay?
kakobrekla: the. links. in. the. topic.
isthisreallyreal: Sorry to bother..! but where do i find the "log" ?:)
kakobrekla: but theres a "buy now with bitcoin" button on the bottom of product page
kakobrekla: yes the implementation is poor
isthisreallyreal: overstock.com? I can only see that you can buy with regular currencys on that site!
isthisreallyreal: I can only find places to BUY bitcoins, not buy WITH them..
kakobrekla: or you can chop them up and make a nice wooden table
mircea_popescu: isthisreallyreal just read the logs.
kakobrekla: well start reading then
isthisreallyreal: A user from bitcointalk refered me here to gain some more experince about bitcoin in generel.
kakobrekla: see the topic, follow the links
isthisreallyreal: haha, not that basic! I'm just wondering exactly what you're talking about here:)
kakobrekla: then they can reply back if they wish to do so
kakobrekla: you type stuff in and other people can see
Curious_George: hey there
isthisreallyreal: Anyone care to explain what's going on here ? :p Im totally new to this. Haha