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mircea_popescu: there's an important difference here, i am in no position to dispute anything yet.
mircea_popescu: so one thing is that i didn't dispute the legality of the sec's request, i asked them to establish it.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell yeye_ cheers.
ninjashogun: for the purposes of the SEC etc
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, what do you think the end-game will be?
mircea_popescu: since i missed the chance back when slashdot linked it
mircea_popescu: trying to discern if any slashdot effect
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 no, im referring to a bunch of news outlets linking it
Duffer1: mircea_popescudid anyone have trouble loading trilema today ? >> my cookie has disappeared is that what you're referring to?
ozbot: Interacting with fiat institution, a guide pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Duffer1: it's a summary of statements made in the email exchange between MP and the SEC
ninjashogun: is that a direct quote? Whose voice is this sentence in?
ninjashogun: But then he said he wanted a bunch of impossible (at least in the near term) stuff before the two could talk frankly, including an SEC determination that it lacks jurisdiction over Bitcoin.
ninjashogun: just read this scrollback for a sec
mircea_popescu: be nice to the noobs.
mircea_popescu: well, i guess there's going to be a steady stream of journo people coming in here these days
ozbot: SEC gets on the Bitcoin investigation bandwagon
mircea_popescu: did anyone have trouble loading trilema today ?
mircea_popescu: whoa, gawker ? mp in gawker ? what has this world come to.
mircea_popescu: no wonder the doj is claiming prism has full support from the usg-controlled corps a la google yahoo etc
mircea_popescu: one's a dinky disqus-equivalent owned by conde nast. the other's a facebook-wannabe still in the cool vc phase.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's more to do with ownership structure.
Duffer1: odd that the one facilitating less dialogue shows more love
mircea_popescu: twitter love, reddit hate. it's like the interwebs autobalance.
mircea_popescu: "Whenever some new and insightful piece of #bitcoin writing appears, I now automatically look for connection to @Mircea_Popescu"
Ukyo: Kinda hard to give what doesnt exist.
Ukyo: Or perhaps there are no updates?
LordPutin: didn't ukyo from bitfunder already use thistypeof scam - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20x0ww/mtgox_announces_they_actually_still_owned_200000/ ☟︎
nubbins`: awesome, i'd love to hear it
LordPutin: who know what ilearned from thiswhole trendon shavers deposition is that youneed to have a good online username like "mymothersasshole" or something...."So you spoke with my mothers asshole on the 10th of Jan last year, is thatcorrect?"
nubbins`: i'm partial to that sort of font -- from the pink eye archives: http://imgur.com/Ompvb3G
ThickAsThieves: i'll connect you with music when it's ready too
ThickAsThieves: but the guys were happy with it too
ThickAsThieves: it's free thing with little planning, so not bad in that sense
ThickAsThieves: was shaky on the rocky horror font, but it seems to work
dignork: lol, "unspecified amounts of bitcoins are being moved, sometimes in fractions of a single bitcoin, into multiple accounts overseas". what do they smoke?
ThickAsThieves: i dont think it has a good rep around here
ozbot: A Crypto-Sting Operation to Find Crypto-Currency - MoneyBeat - WSJ
Mats_cd03: you should be required to pay .01btc to talk in this channel
Aquent: just wondering whats so good about mpex that anyone pays 30 btc for it
Mats_cd03: the heading says stocks followed by tables of data
Aquent: so the shares on the home page are the only traded shares?
Aquent: ohh sorry I was looking at the faq
Mats_cd03: its fairly clear, there is a contract for every enterprise
kakobrekla: did ya see S.GOOG there?
Aquent: didnt explain about what shares you can buy I think
Mats_cd03: try looking at the site instead of asking stupid questions
Aquent: so can I buy google shares or other publicly traded companies on mpex?
bitcoinpete: thickasthieves artifexd could we do a btc loan or purchase instead? don't want another client that bad
artifexd: bitcoinpete I can sell you a few ATC if you want to follow ThickAsThieves' advice
kakobrekla: seriously, "september 11 TYPE OF EVENTS"
kakobrekla: >The Company may, by written notice to any Members, suspend payment of withdrawal proceeds to such Members if the Member Manager reasonably deems it necessary to do so to comply with anti-money laundering laws and regulations applicable to the Company or any of the Company’s service providers, or due to circumstances beyond its control, including but not limited to general civil disturbance or September 11, 2001 type events.
bitcoinpete: alrighty then. are you up for a little test run?
bitcoinpete: do i need to do some small transactions to get that graph going or what?
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user bitcoinpete: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=bitcoinpete | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoinpete | Rated since: never
benkay: here's a blog post for ya: "the only dependency in your reputational toolchain should be gpg"
bitcoinpete: worse than linkedin by my estimation
benkay: can't tell if actual fraternity or weird internet thing
phf: taking in the bitcoin knowledge
benkay: what brings you 'round these parts?
benkay: ;;later tell HeySteve2 didja fixit?
Ghaleon: if you import a wallet.dat file into bitcoind does it copy over the receiving addresses? everything that I have read says IT WILL NOT COPY over receiving addresses....
Namworld: Who said I cared? I just have many BTC related channels opened at all time. On the plus side, those channels tend to be quick to link any article related to Bitcoin.
daybyter: but why should you care if the price goes up or down?
daybyter: so you don't trade anything, but wanna know why the price went up or down?
Namworld: At least for those with 30-50 users or more.
Namworld: not specifically, there's like 3-4 other channels like pricetalk.
Namworld: I'm not trading anything, I just have like 20+ IRC channels open about Bitcoin.
Namworld: Not about trading between users, literally the channels where they just talk about what they're doing, why they think price is headed that or that way and such.
Namworld: No, the currency trading channels
dexX7: what do you want to trade?
Namworld: Those that are on trading IRC channels talking about their profits and loss and speculating.
Apocalyptic: who are these guys anyway ?
Namworld: I probably should have pastbin'ed that
Namworld: [17:12] <TheMediator> I think we have enough experience between the regulars where we could take turns hacking the exchange until we get it fairly secure
Namworld: [17:12] <TheMediator> and expand from there
Namworld: [17:12] <TheMediator> its up to you namworld. If you think you can make it happen, we can use it as a base.
Namworld: [17:12] <Namworld> You can't audit the code.
Namworld: [17:12] <deup> that is why there are a bunch of exchanges
Namworld: [17:12] <Namworld> That's why you can't trust any website that comes up with a Bitcoin service. Even if it looks nice.
Namworld: [17:11] <Namworld> Dangerous thing, it took only a few hours to learn how to do. Making an exchange is in the reach of any moron willing to put a few days to learn how to and a month or two to code it full time.
Namworld: [17:10] <TheMediator> Namworld, how long would it take you to get together something VERY simple so that like 10 of us could trade on it
Namworld: [17:09] <Namworld> I know basic PHP and just barely touched database. I made a microapp for fun, that just tracks views and clicks and banners, for a banner exchange. Without any user interface or accounts capability. Just the script for the banners + tracking.
Namworld: [17:06] <Namworld> I'm a noob coder. I could maybe have patched up something in a few months, pretended I knew what I was doing and lost customers funds, making tons of money meanwhile. But I'm not a self-centered, over-confident, can-never-fail asshat,
Namworld: Actual conversation with the irrelevant chatter filtered out. People were talking about making a leveraged trading platforms for altcoins. Advice falling on deaf ears.
nubbins`: we do occasionally get requests from people who want digital prints tho, and it's kind of silly to own a print shop that doesn't have a color printer
nubbins`: all three, i suppose
nubbins`: sadly, i dropped the ball and only ordered the color CIS kit today
nubbins`: we already have one of these with an all-black CIS hooked up, for printing films
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what is unusual about this printer?
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
BingoBoingo: Of sorts, at least until May. I suppose I could drive to a North American border and walk if something urgent, but... This thing with the neighboring county still needs to play out
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: might want to work on fixing this, if only for practice.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: trapped in u.s. ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you know, there will be generic humans there, not just guest speakers
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not this year
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: are you coming to mp's party?
BingoBoingo: Still, better writeup than Bloomberg
Duffer1: "online bitcoin trading exchange"
ozbot: Bitcoin Trading Exchange Spurns Thirsty SEC