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thestringpuller: did the Ukyo loan default
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily one of the better things you can do is get an irc client and set it up. thgat way you have your own logs, highlights, tab completes etc
ReutersEmily: I would love to get in touch with him.
mircea_popescu: he was here recently, so perhaps can get back to you.
gribble: Ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 53 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <Ukyo> Kinda hard to give what doesnt exist.
mircea_popescu: gotta remember, we're on the web. and the web is for spiders.
BingoBoingo: And that thing might be related to the Cyprus thing, kinds
ReutersEmily: i also am trying to find out - why did he (Jon Montroll) go to hang out with Danny Brewster after that happened, and how did that whole thing get resolved?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's complicated and has a lot to do with spiders.
nubbins`: so what, you strap yourself into a centrifuge feet-out for sleep and head-out for thinking?
ReutersEmily: i am so glad you rbought that up LordPutin
nubbins` ponders this over coffee
LordPutin: dont forget ukyo the bitfunder scam artists
ReutersEmily: hdbuck it's a fun beat but i don't think it's good for my blood pressure
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/FlitterOnFraud/status/447013452226113536 so there ye go, naysayers.
nubbins`: he eventually decided he didn't live on this street, and wandered off
nubbins`: no cherry blossoms here, but there was a man looking confusedly back and forth between my house, the house next door, and the key in his hand
hdbuck: http://blogs.reuters.com/emily-flitter/ "covering financial crimes, including insider trading, investment scams, accounting fraud and financial firm misconduct" that sounds like a hell of a work. ^^
mircea_popescu: then they hurried up and everyone missed it.
mircea_popescu: when i originally picked a date for the secret conference, it was mostly tied to when this particular walkway of cherries would likely be in bloom.
mircea_popescu: this shall henceforth be known as the mp curse, too.
mircea_popescu: Namworld it has been for a week. all the cherry trees are pink
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, thank fred phelps
mircea_popescu: wow this is the prettiest spring outside
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Honestly by 2015 I imagine this will be the norm
ReutersEmily: oh didn't see your handle till after i tweeted hold on i'll do another one
Namworld: No need. What I mean is, someone comes in here and ask questions, they'll probably get an answer, wether from the press or just a random stranger. Who the person actually is doesn't matter.
khersonus: Namworld: I felt the need to ask, so I asked. Does it matter that I asked?
nubbins`: i have to say, things are interesting around here lately
ReutersEmily: oh sure thing
mircea_popescu: so twitter anything related to this convo
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily do you have a twitter ?
ReutersEmily: Huh I wonder how I would go about proving I'm from Reuters - happy to offer proof if you want
mircea_popescu: nah im pretty sure it's the genuine article.
Namworld: khersonus, there was no proof provided that whoever is asking question is from Reuters. Someone joined and asked questions. People are answering. It could be left at that. Does it matter how or why someone arrived here?
ReutersEmily: khersonus I wanted to talk to mircea_popescu about the SEC letter
khersonus: normally I just read the logs, but this was worth hopping on for
mircea_popescu: and now the hunter becomes the prey :D
khersonus: ReutersEmily: how did you find out about this place?
mircea_popescu: it's the future in the past.
khersonus: Reuters on IRC? I can't decide if this is the future or the past, but I like it.
kakobrekla: not enough doges to cover for it.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla does assbot support this many lines ? such wow. much amount.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The first one was done, maybe an hour ago http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/21/the-problem-of-finding-bitcoin/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it seems just by the time you're done with your post you can start on another eh.
mircea_popescu: (this software works so that if anyone is mentioned - or has any strings of interest mentioned - they get a signal)
mircea_popescu: if you hang around maybe topace sees the highlights.
LordPutin: i called them once and Dave from fbi answered
ReutersEmily: but someone has to be running it
mircea_popescu: i hear the sichuan duck is good.
BingoBoingo: For a while "moving to Panama" was such a popular claim it was nearly a meme in this space
mircea_popescu: until the securities and exchange comission of panama figures out how to work with me, i guess this shitshow'll continue. ☟︎
ReutersEmily: well they have numbers you can call for help or whatever
BingoBoingo: "Moved to Panama"
mircea_popescu: i buy that just about as much as any other flying pigs scenario.
mircea_popescu: a guy by the name topace used to, and claims he is no longer because some offshore corp bought it.
mircea_popescu: but this is what passes for "pr" these days, at least at the havelock level of things.
mircea_popescu: obviously this is not what one would read, be that one reasonable or otherwise, and obviously this point is not lost on them.
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily anyway, if you're positive-constructively inclined, they probably mean "with none of the risk holding your own btc entails, such as you not having a clue and deleting the wallet"
mircea_popescu: recently, it was discovered (here) that they had misworded their contract.
mircea_popescu: well that seems just about the average stupid thing they'd say.
ReutersEmily: what about the fact that neobee is collectuing euros promising customers exposure to btc "with none of the risk?"
mircea_popescu: resulting in a good 4k btc loss for their "investors".
mircea_popescu: c) that havelock has a history of allowing high rent corporations to just walk away from their obligations, such as they did in the case of virtex,
mircea_popescu: b) that while neobee spends a lot of time executing, it's so far failed to actually come up with a business plan. anyone can buy advertising, and overpay for it.
mircea_popescu: a) that while neobee collected funds (on havelock), they have yet to issue a report. this is eerily reminescent of the bitcoin foundation scam, and does not bode well
mircea_popescu: nothing too highly. to keep this short and sweet, the objections are :
ReutersEmily: yeah what do you think of them?
mircea_popescu: the neobee people bought a lot of newspaper space recently, that hat you mean ?
ReutersEmily: because i want to know what you think about some of the new businesses popping up there
ReutersEmily: what about specifically in the btc space?
mircea_popescu: well their govt collapsed and it seems messy
ReutersEmily: what is going on there, in your opinion?
ReutersEmily: so can we talk about Cyprus? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: just as long as they understand what's going on.
ReutersEmily: yeah i would want to come as press. altho since we have people far closer to Romania than I am here in NYC perhaps one of my colleagues would go instead
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily if not, there's going to be another in 2015 anyway, so.
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 well i imagine she wants to come as press rather than vip
mircea_popescu: you'll have to read and talk to your editor
ozbot: The conference, second edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Namworld: I'm sorry, I'm probably just interupting and distracting from your questions to Mircea.
ozbot: Grave concerns re MtGox pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ozbot: Grave concerns re MtGox pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Monarch03: Mircea, what is your opinion about ASICminer, from investment point of view right now? thanks
ReutersEmily: think it was a guy who couldn't run an exchange or an outside theft?
Namworld: On Bitcointalk forum. She tends to be very accurate, yet most often dismissed. In the end, she is usually proven right, sadly for those who didn't heed her warnings.
mircea_popescu: rather than six montrhs after, like your run of the mill overworked, overwhelmed, sclerotic bureaucracy.
ReutersEmily: what do you think went wrong w/mt gox?
mircea_popescu: and if the sec was at my april 2013 conference, they could have known about mtgox nine months in advance,
mircea_popescu: we could have together avoided a shitton of loss and misery.
mircea_popescu: now, if the sec had actually had a gpgkey registered with me in april 2012,
ReutersEmily: so...perhaps you don't want to discuss it here but i would love to know what you think of the new cyprus-based 'bank'
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily anyway, some highlights include calling out the pirate scam in april 2012, at a time everyone thought they knew better,
Namworld: MPOE-PR exposes scams and belittles random strangers looking for investments/offering a service which involves handling third party funds, without any respectability or proof of competency.
mircea_popescu: what year is this! how long have i been asleep ?!
gribble: View the profile of MPOE-PR - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=52741>; Latest posts of: MPOE-PR - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=52741;sa=showPosts>; MPOE-PR, almost two years in the swamp. An anthology. pe Trilema ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-pr-almost-two-years-in-the-swamp-an-anthology/>
Namworld: MPEx at its core was made to be simple, secure and without any extras. Designed to be a true exchange. Other places so far dealing with Bitcoin securities have both the issuing and official trades of share, and the web interface. It makes them vulnerable to hacking and meddling with the list of holders.
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily not other than the limits of how many shares there exist in that company.
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily take for instance mpoe-pr. you familiar with her body of work ?
ReutersEmily: but when you say there are people who are trying to prevent bad behavior, how do they do that?