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nubbins`: they're a real danger on
the highways :D
ReutersEmily: heh, seriously? i had no idea
they were introduced
nubbins`: now
the island is covered in 'em :)
nubbins`: they brought
two moose over here in
the 1800s, didn't work out, so
they brought over
two more
nubbins`: this will actually be my first
time eating moose steak
nubbins`: so lean
that it's usually consumed ground, either in burgers, meatballs, or sausages
nubbins`: it's slightly gamier and spicier
than beef
nubbins`: normally i get roast-style hunks of moose, but
they're more like
t-bones
this
time around
Duffer1: not quite marinade but more
than a seasoning
Duffer1: i was just reading
that one
nubbins`: gonna go with
the allrecipes beer/soya/dijon one
nubbins`: anyone able
to suggest a suitable marinade for moose steaks?
Namworld: I
think Silber was involved in Bitcoin way before SecondMarket
thing if I'm not mistaken. Shame he doesn't hang out in
the BTC channels.
mircea_popescu: i
thought it was just about now or something like
that.
dexX7: almost ready
to re: am
mircea_popescu: yeah asicminer. when were
they delivering
the new
things again ?
ReutersEmily: anyway
thank you. i really appreciate your
time.
ReutersEmily: ok guys....thank you so so much for being so nice
to me and answering my questions. i am going
to get on
the phone in a minute so probably won't be able
to pay as much attention in here, but i
think i'll stay signed in
mircea_popescu: so you got burned in gox. coulda just have said
that you know :D
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: it's hard
trying
to figure out how greedy
to be, as
the great nubs said
mircea_popescu: nubbins`
tell you what ? a lot of people who i'd
think would know better had btc with pirate.
nubbins`: but a lot of people who you'd
think would know better.
BingoBoingo: Much of
the Bitcoin Foundation seems
to be career hucksters of
the Amway-franchisee sort.
Namworld: Their problem, unlike Gox/others,
they can deal. If
they can't learn/adapt,
they'll drop it.
ReutersEmily: mircea_popescu how do you know
they got burned in gox?
BingoBoingo: Learning
the lessons other people learned much earlier
BingoBoingo: The Wall Street contingent seems more honest, but
they are going
to have
to go
through growing pains
mircea_popescu: Namworld well afaik
they got burned pretty well in gox.
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily
they're
trying, but i
think you probably know more in places by now
than silbert does
Namworld: Even
the public figures,
there's distrust in
them. Mostly because
they
tend
to always have numerous
ties with big scammers which keeps showing up in
the public figures pool.
ReutersEmily: what do you
think of
the Wall Street contingent in bitcoin, like SecondMarket?
nubbins`: what do you expect from a group of self-appointed wizards
tho
BingoBoingo: ReutersEmily: Yeah,
they just really pump each other's dubious ventures and collect money
they don't provide accounting for
Neil: More evidence
that money in your bank isn't really yours:
nubbins`: ReutersEmily: keep
this up and you'll join
the clan of people who can afford
to sit around on freenode all day ;D
ReutersEmily: yeah i will hang in here. i can't believe 2 hours have gone by since i got
to work and
this is what i've been doing
the whole
time - ha!
mircea_popescu: anyway ReutersEmily
the verification of such
things is a fuzzy affair at best. you end up weighting
things, who said what who
they work with who
trusts
them and why etc.
Namworld: Well at least hanging in here could at least provide info about where
to look for verifying soon
to be news before it happens.
mircea_popescu: so you know, who knows what goes on in
the narcissist head.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i can't
think of any other reason for a document leaker
to modify
the documents he's leaking.
mircea_popescu: the other being
that he's ver's sock and just you know... came up with something.
nubbins`: which led me
to believe
that he sort of made
the whole document up, and it got
traction, so gox figured "now's as good a
time as any"
Namworld: True, hard
to verify when you don't have your own balance
to verify against
the leaked info (re hacked accoutns details).
nubbins`: ReutersEmily: you might be interested
to know
that
the guy who "leaked"
the document -- selkis, i
think -- actually did
the redactions himself
ReutersEmily: i don't remember off
teh
top of my head what format
that was in because it was my colleagues in Japan who
took a close look at
that
mircea_popescu: but people accepted it as an "well... gotta
talk of something"
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily
that stuff was always regarded as dubious
nubbins`: ReutersEmily: regarding
that leaked crisis plan, did you see
the actual PDF? with
the "redactions" on
the financials page?
Namworld: nubbins',
to
the press,
that's not going
to be enough unless it's firsthand from
the business' owner if it's about a Bitcoin business.
mircea_popescu: unless
the price moves sharply against
them
they'll prolly be ok.
ThickerThanThiev: [23:52] <mircea_popescu>
ThickAsThieves you drew
that shit ?! /// Not quite, I modified what Pink Eye created into
that version. Maybe one day I'll put up my own portfolio again...
radan: I have a few btc with
them, and I'm not sure whether it's secure
ReutersEmily: well like some of
the Mt Gox stuff
that came out -
that leaked crisis plan - and
then
the back-office stuff
mircea_popescu: radan i never used
them. people ocasionally call scam but it doesn't usually seem
to be
the case.
nubbins`: ReutersEmily:
this channel -- and a few others -- have identification features
that are useful
to
this end
nubbins`: ReutersEmily:
the best you can do re: verification is
to verify who's saying
things.
radan: dr. popescu, what do you
think of coinbase
only_: ReutersEmily: something like "will MP get away with running an unregulated stock exchange on
the interwebz?"
that would be nice.
Namworld: Yes,
that and
they don't have much
time
to allocate
to Bitcoin either.
ReutersEmily: well one
thing we have a hard
time with is how
to verify stuff
that is said or posted on
these forums
dexX7: Namworld:
too much noise usually
mircea_popescu: chetty
that's a cute one. i recently saw a reference
to
the beanie babies. conveniently failing
to mention
that
this
thing's been going for five years, and dropped precipitously
three
times at least
Namworld: News people don't seem
to hang on IRC
too much, although who knows, maybe some of
those silent people are from some news outlets.
mircea_popescu: qualifications for journalism
these days. "must be young and like
to read"
Namworld: Well
true, events are usually known in Bitcoin IRC channels days before
they make
the news outlets.
chetty: I'd love
to see
the press stick a knife in
the "bitcoin is a ponzi" meme
nubbins`: lots of cruft, but diamonds hidden in
the rough
mircea_popescu: pretty much all
the major stories broke here, often days early
radan: how many of
these dang bitcoins are
there anyway
Namworld: I
think
that's been covered
too much, radan.
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily if you manage
to idle here you'll get
the scoops as
they happen.
radan: what is
the future of bitcoin
ReutersEmily: so...Reuters is just getting into
the coverage of bitcoin....do you guys have buring questions you'd like
to see answered in a mainstream press article?
Namworld: Nefario returned most BTC, decided
to screw it for
the remainder and disappear.
nubbins`: what a word for hands
that starts with S?
mircea_popescu: now
that guy, who was running glbse, met a bunch of
these folks irl.
Namworld: I haven't met anyone in
this channel in person. At least not knowingly. But I haven't attended any Bitcoin related event
to start with.
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 25 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours, 43 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <nefario>
Those assets are not listed or
traded anymore
Namworld: Some have met some of
the people in
this channel. Although
there's currently over an hundred participant and it varies a lot from day
to day.
nubbins`: altho i
think a fair number of people in here will be hitting up
the conference
nubbins`: i've met none of
these people in real life, and don't have any plans
to