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BingoBoingo: On that note Imma head over a few hollers to pickle the liver. I am already considering at least 1 sponsorship offer for the blog, and I'll prolly contnue entertaining offers through Thursday.
benkay: ;;later tell bitcoinpete let's do some gpg practice when you get back
BingoBoingo: So my location is in the middle of a "Fire Weather Warning"
ozbot: Mt. Gox was always dead in the water | Business Spectator
the20year1: mircea_popescu: where is this quote from, about professional users leaving gox in 2013?
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mircea_popescu: i love that part tho lol.
mircea_popescu: "Most professional users moved away from Mt. Gox months ago, leaving April 2013 or thereabouts. By June 2013, the final nail was in the coffin for US users," said one of bitcoin's core developers, who requested anonymity.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell reutersemily "Concerns that regulatory action would cause customer funds to be trapped resulted in a sharp plunge in Bitcoin, falling from $US230 on April 10 to a low of $US68.49 on April 17" nah, http://trilema.com/2013/in-which-noobs-learn-lessons-and-pay-for-the-privilege/ that'll explain it to you.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell reutersemily "Shortly after that, a bitcoin exchange known as bitfloor was shuttered after its US bank account was closed because it had not properly registered with regulators." << nah, bitfloor was run by shtylman, who either ran off with the coin or "lost" it.
radan: is this a bad thing, or
mircea_popescu: so there you have it.
mircea_popescu: "The whole reason we have such confidence in our company is that from the start we said this has got to be something that plays nicely with the traditional financial world," Ehrsam said in an interview.
mircea_popescu: "Fred Ehrsam, a co-founder of the Bitcoin trading platform Coinbase, said his company took a position early on that it would not fight regulators. Regulators have cited it as an example of how others should behave."
nubbins`: well why don't i just read the fucking faq ;(
nubbins`: good to know, ty
nubbins`: well i guess that explains why the house bet chose my address for payout
mircea_popescu: by now coming up with bitbet bets is probably the highest paying writing gig on the internet.
mircea_popescu: gotta provide some initial turbulence, gotta reward people going out and crafting bets,
nubbins`: what's the reasoning behind that?
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: "way to young to"
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i've seen a few wagers on bitbet that have "house bets" attached to them -- are there specific criteria for whether the house will throw down on a bet, or is it left to mod discretion?
BingoBoingo: I've put more though into the fundraising thing. If anyone really prefered the oil painting option I guess I could throw that in as well.
ozbot: A Fundraiser, because this is way to young to have a paywall, but hosting isn't free | Bingo Blog
mircea_popescu: o that.
hdbuck: some entity that holds your BTC for IUOs, then trade the shit out of it and run off whenever you claim them back?
radan: I want to invest my 1 bitcoin
Namworld: Well anyway, no point in talking further. I don't have anything else to do on the computer, I'll be on my way.
BingoBoingo: You know the biggest change in bitcoin from 2013 is last year is was hell trying to get mass media journalists interested in talking about MPEx.
Namworld: I think it's been established what is progress to me. Speaking of groups in absolute fuels hate, especially when the one speaking doesn't believe in such absolute, is bad. Thus I will speak against it when I see it. Just like you would call out people on doing things you disapprove of.
Namworld: You said you knew how jews think. Jews have a common religion. Everything else could be completly different. Although the religion might influence a good portion into certain ideas, if you took jews and non jews mixed together and asked their point of view on various things that doesn't touch jews like Israel and such, you'd have a hard time spotting them.
aclot: this dialogue is veering dangerously close to monologue
radan: this dialogue is veering dangerously close to autism
Namworld: I didn't say there's none. It might be common. That's okay to expect similiarities to be probable. But one should not assume people from the same group will be alike.
radan: "nba players are just like any other people, some of them can shoot a basketball, some of them can't"
radan: they're raised in them
radan: no, they're not
asciilifeform: (re: 'how computer thinks')
Namworld: They're not all born with the same ideologies and values as their ancestors
asciilifeform: 'you are on speaking terms with the night, as with an old enemy.' 'you sit in front of a machine that throws electrons in your face, all day, every day.' (former colleague's list of 'ye are a programmer if...')
Namworld: One person and another from the same group can be complete opposite.
radan: regardsm, tumblr
mircea_popescu: Namworld what of bitcoin jesus then ?
radan: of their thought
radan: and the individual vagaries
radan: you get to know the similarities
mircea_popescu: i also had a computer so i know how those think too
Namworld: You talk as if jews where a single entity. One person with one mind.
radan: it's not exactly hard to figure out
mircea_popescu: i once was with a girl so i know how THEY think!
Namworld: Knowing a jew does not make you know how they all think.
radan: I know how they think
radan: I went to a jewish high school
mircea_popescu: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRI_J0nwBY‎ < in there
Namworld: radan, are you sure about that? What is it with all those assumptions?
mircea_popescu: in this context torpila means ancient but workable car
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bug mafia band quoted earlier discusses, in a song about cars, "sau vre-o torpila dunarita, la volan o fata, mai tata"
radan: I think he's a bit more perceptive than your average happy merchant
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in rus., the useless winglet sometimes found on a car is often called torpedo. same in ro ?
mircea_popescu: well isn't that the criteria ?
radan: yet you would feel deeply uncomfortable outside of the west
mircea_popescu: torpila, in romanian, torpedo. funny how that works.
radan: "I don't feel fondly attached to any culture particularly."
Namworld: Anything that reduce the motive behind wars, hate and violence is progress. Most technological progress have done just that so far.
asciilifeform: терпила == literal trans. of 'patient'
mircea_popescu: teh iconic tolerasty cartoon
Namworld: Some would say loss of culture and traditional way of living is not progress. Me, I don't feel fondly attached to any culture particularly.
mircea_popescu: a well. then he should say that :p
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think he was speaking of 'tolerasty'
mircea_popescu: some of the best houses for the history of western thought were tolerance houses.
mircea_popescu: i don't get what the trouble with tolerance is in the first place.
asciilifeform: the funny part is the supposed progress
Namworld: You seem to find this funny?
Namworld: I don't think we can eliminate those things, short of simply eradicating ourselves.
Namworld: No, from my point of view we're progressing toward less famine, poverty and sickness through technology, and better understanding of our nature as an animal. Which in turn decreases violence, torture, wars and hate, as a side effect.
asciilifeform: but i tend to assume thing that turn out to be mistake
radan: and evola, if you want to get into the metaphysics of it
asciilifeform: radan: me, i'm a believer in 'salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the drowning' - but if you want organized - straight to limonov et al.
asciilifeform: radan: wait till you find out what passes for organized resistance to this crap in the usa
radan: an objective observer can decide for himself which of these opinions is the more realistic one
radan: we're proceeding infinitely leftward on an uninterrupted train to Toleranceville.
radan: which is the same as that of my ancestors thousands of years back
Namworld: You understood that I meant you've set those standards' limits where you pleased.
Namworld: I'm calling you out on calling the world is going bad or people are wrong-headed when it is doing so only by your standards, which are arbitrary.
radan: I'm already doing that
radan: they can kill me, until then I'm a free man.
Namworld: Yes, pretty much, live and let live. Not shape yourself to fit where you don't belong. Voice your opinion.
radan: or whatever the current casus belli is
radan: if they want to stop me from hurting people's feelings
radan: I'll call them out on it
radan: trying to save my people's genetic livelihood
radan: that's not going to stop me from doing what I think is best
radan: no, there is no objective right or wrong
Namworld: Which is my whole point. It's all personality related. There's not really any right or wrong, re the way of living you choose.
radan: there's no need to raise a kid as a father per se in obama's america
radan: the leaders of this country have implemented a massive social security system
mircea_popescu: saving yourself for that special guy ?
Namworld: I didn't say otherwise, just unsure about the best way to go about it and not liking how it's done.
radan: I'm never gonna marry one though