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mircea_popescu: and by that penis i have represented a proper equality.
Ghaleon: join the club brah
Ghaleon: people can look up to that
mircea_popescu: but im the elitist asshole to end all elitist assholes.
Ghaleon: your letter to sec was an example of that
Ghaleon: mp, yes, the challenge is finding that person who can build the epic bridges and present the right face... without going insane for long enough
mircea_popescu: Ghaleon as you approach mastery you'll notice the leet asshole is an epic bridge builder type.
artifexd: Standard of success? No. Measurement? Sure. "Yes compile" is further along than "No compile"
mircea_popescu: the time to be kakobrekla'd is never! say aye!
kakobrekla: but 'did it compile' check is equal to 'did i make any typos' not 'is the code fucking shit'
asciilifeform: 'Did it compile?' << i should hope that you are joking re: this being a standard of success in your work
Ghaleon: hence the typical irc, leet jerk attitude is bout to be extinct ☟︎
mircea_popescu: artifexd if you're limiting yourself to successes you can measure you're more likely to become obese than get laid.
artifexd: Success in communicating via code is much easier to measure than in english. "Did it compile?" vs "Did he/she understand me?"
Ghaleon: as programmers we must rise up now and be better bridges between humans and machines, money is the lifeblood of human energy, thus we must improve as ambassardors
mircea_popescu: that's trhe very point of having a language : abstracting the audience.
artifexd: The audience of english is other humans, generally. The audience of code is the machine.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to "lisp is crap, they only run it on shit"
mircea_popescu: "javascript is really cool, it works on every shitty laptop out there"
kakobrekla: alert('whats wrong with the audience here?');
mircea_popescu: i never heard of a programmer that judged the languages on the basis of the machines involved.
artifexd: It isn't about the medium. It's about the audience.
mircea_popescu: possibly because they never bothered to learn english properly.
artifexd: For some people, talking is not fun. Or maybe it is, but writing code is orders of magnitude more fun than writing english.
asciilifeform: i still think it possible that there are competent people, but 'dark matter' because why should they talk.
mircea_popescu: one can prolly make a living for years just out of that observation.
mircea_popescu: most experts are over 50 and don't hang out in the right places, so
asciilifeform: right. but we're in today.
mircea_popescu: ten-twenty years ago there was nothing really major that depended on them so.
asciilifeform: naturally this only applies to cryptographic hashes, rather than checksums
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform these days, yes.
asciilifeform: re: hash algos: one could argue that any hash function whose defeat (preimage, etc.) wouldn't sink something major (e.g. btc) isn't worth using.
mircea_popescu: suddenly that 16% bet appears a lot more interesting.
mircea_popescu: so 14.5% till june
mircea_popescu: look at that, we're trading.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: guy's worried that all his shady work promoting various scams may land him in hot water.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.42564200 BTC to 4`100 shares, 59162 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: that's almost enough to start a fake bitcoin mining farm
mircea_popescu: luckily the uk pound isn't worth the hassle.
artifexd: relevant quote "the Bitcoin network is performing enough computation to generate SHA-1 collisions every 131 minutes!"
mircea_popescu: http://www.sehn.org/Endocrine_Disruption.html << that's the plasticiser, btw
nubbins`: fun fact, we dumped raw sewage into the atlantic until 2 years ago
nubbins`: try to turn this shit day around
nubbins`: well, i've gotta get to printing
mircea_popescu: you know, like spacing it out but over time.
mircea_popescu: so you time it out
mircea_popescu: you can just pour them into the toilet, one ounce a day
nubbins`: unfortunately i can't even sneak em into the trash
mircea_popescu: well that also works.
nubbins`: either way, fuck these inks
nubbins`: impressed me with your knowledge of random things
mircea_popescu: it'll sort them out.
mircea_popescu: you put it in the tumbler, stuff the tumbler with rags or packing peanuts or w/e to keep the cans flush to the side, then hook it to dry for a while.
nubbins`: that's what we get for taking donations without inspecting em first
mircea_popescu: not that way, that doesn't work.
nubbins`: you can take a quart of old ink and mix it with a power drill for an hour and it's still shit
mircea_popescu: you can probably reemusify them if you have an old washing machine
nubbins`: really old, starting to separate
nubbins`: so now we have 15 gallons of "donated" ink that's gonna cost us $2-300 to dispose of
mircea_popescu: what was the problem with them ?
nubbins`: brought em out to the dump today, and they wouldn't take them because it's commercial waste
nubbins`: about a third of them were usable, the rest (10-15 gallons) aren't fit for use
nubbins`: which they in turn donated to us
mircea_popescu: unrelatedtly, this may be lulzy : http://financiallyregulated.com/2013/10/21/man-who-mocked-the-sec-in-his-blog-has-been-indicted/
artifexd: I only expect you to be you.
mircea_popescu: well HOW EASY do you want me to makle it ;/
artifexd: I did discover him in my googling. I didn't expect you to misspell his name though so I though you were talking about someone else
gribble: John von Neumann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann>; Von Neumann architecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_architecture>; John von Neumann - CS Dept. NSF-Supported Education ...: <http://ei.cs.vt.edu/~history/VonNeumann.html>
mircea_popescu: whoa you don't know the greatest mathematician that ever lived ?
artifexd: Change line 9 to vary the bias to your hearts content.
artifexd: If anyone wants it, here is the code for the Newman fair-izing test: http://dpaste.com/hold/1752001/
mircea_popescu: or the wall.
chetty: they got this wrong, the bitcoin should be the bite
mircea_popescu: neumann was the later, and in that context yes it can.
artifexd: True. But a generator that never generates can hardly be called a generator.
mircea_popescu: in computational terms, the algo doesn't crash, it just never finishes.
mircea_popescu: artifexd if the bias is 100% you'll discard all sets.
artifexd: Unless the bias is 100%, in which case there is no entropy to tap so you can't get any entropy out.
artifexd: I recoded my test for that change and the results are an even distribution regardless of flip bias. Cool.
artifexd: And if there was no bias in the coin, a straight forward flip would be good enough.
artifexd: I'm having trouble with http://trilema.com/2014/so-heres-a-problem-for-you/ If there was any bias in the coin, wouldn't that bias show up as a favoring towards heads in the end results?
mircea_popescu: In response to the argument that Title III provides no explicit provision for disclosures under the present facts, the court noted that "[Title III] does not prohibit all that it does not permit".
the20year: how thoughtful
jborkl: That is very generous of them
kakobrekla: mebbe, ill see how bad the itch gets
ThickAsThieves: maybe make a sock that isnt a sock, like call yourself Bitcoin Assets
ozbot: We have decided to donate 100btc to those who lost funds from mt gox
kakobrekla: but i would need to register a sock, thats the issue
kakobrekla: i dont think its even ip restricted
kakobrekla: at times like these, ban hurts.
ozbot: Let's talk about BTC.SX and MT.GOX
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> i don't recall why the chan log only starts from april 2013, but prolly cause lazy < like a year of bullshit isnt enough
MisterE: where is the url bot?
MisterE: So I guess if you'e in a fund that invests in a Russian company you could get screwed f that the Russian holdings are sanctioned...
wao-ender: let's use telegram instead of whatsapp
FabianB: i don't think tencent would ever sell
VanCleef: more i think aboutit my god that whatssapp deal was such a bad buy
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
samson_: WTF has Crimea got to do with the US ?