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VanCleef: well i'm not a
technical person
nubbins`: VanCleef: invest in your future, don't wait for someone else
to do it :D
VanCleef: thestringpuller cause i dont want
to scam people
Namworld: If I had something good
to invest in, I'd probably
take it all
to myself...
VanCleef: someone give us something good
to invest in
Namworld: Like, what are people doing? Giving money around
to whine against scammers, and when it's not a scam, go "That one is nice. Will leave
them my money."
Namworld: Keep
the list a few years. It's just a file. Not a problem keeping it.
Namworld: If I harass
them for a few months,
they eventually reply, "oh yeah, right, why not? I'll
take it."
nubbins`: so put a
time limit on your next message and wash your hands if
they don't reply
Namworld: I send
them messages asking about claiming/repaying
them and never receive replies...
jurov: everyone is so accustomed
to scam
that
they don't even
think of researching if we don't offer repayment
Namworld: As for most others who lent me smaller amounts... I
typically have
to run after
them for repaying
them?
jurov: not
to mention passthrough shareholders
Namworld: TAT must be satisfied. But a few of my larger lenders are going
to get pissed. At least I
think so?
They don't seem
to ask/be in a hurry about it a lot.
VanCleef: alot of neobee problems seems
to be related
to bitfunder and ukyo as well
Namworld: I'm down a lot of my debt. I have last requests
to fulfill. And a lot of people who never replied
to me about it.
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure scam is an appropriate
term, however liberally some would like
to use it
pankkake: what made you
think it was a scam
then?
VanCleef: i remember on
the second day of neobee ipo i called it a scamm and
tat put me on ignore for
trolling
jurov: mike_c
TAT got away
to avoid investigation. you expect him
to say he knows internal info?
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: you didn't know anything non-public about
their financials?
jurov: everyone says
to swim against
the stream. no one says, make sure you know
the direction first
ThickAsThieves: <mike_c> unless
tat
tells us ///
that kinda info resided with Neo, I assume
jurov: pankkake no
these are supposed
to be deep wisdoms
Apocalyptic: anyone knows if
the blockr.io guys hang out on IRC ?
pankkake: VanCleef:
too simple
to be funny
ozbot: imgur:
the simple image sharer
pankkake: first
time I loled
to a morpheus meme!
nubbins`: what if i
told you...
that your investment went straight into
the pockets of cypriot marketing firms?
Namworld: I'll still call it Neobee. Neo never existed anyway, or came close
to fruition.
Mats_cd03: (i personally do --
that reality has played out
thousands of
times in
thousands of jurisdictions)
Mats_cd03: what, you don't
think hamsterdam (a la
The Wired) would work?
Namworld: If you make largesses
to yourself, you go "Boohoo, I've run out of funds, spending everything on advertising and a big salary
to myself, now
there's nothing left. I'm sorry. So sad." Like neobee and
the like.
assbot: Last
trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00094554 BTC [-]
nubbins`: everybody's happy except
the poor people who aren't criminals!
diametric: nubbins`: Its even better because
the crime rarely crosses
the boundary of
the block because
the police and criminals have an informal pact.
They don't mess with
the gentrified areas,
the police don't mess with
their shitholes.
thestringpuller: given
taking short
term credit is for expenses leading
to a profit and not just buying Ferrari
thestringpuller: I guess "short-term" credit is much better
than "long
term"
diametric: It's pretty incredible
to look at. In on block you'll see very expensive homes, rich white people walking expensive
toy dogs. Go one block down, and you have
thugs peddling herion on
the corner and prostitutes blowing dudes in
the alley.
nubbins`: something like 1% of
the population of st john's is black
Namworld: Then you can live well, not
the other way around.
diametric: nubbins`: sounds like you're
talking about Baltimore.
Namworld: Going
to stay like
that until I at least repay all my debts. Probably going
to stay like
that for a while after I repay my debts. You make sure you have no debts and
the business is well and you have a nice cushion.
nubbins`: but srsly.
there's maybe 40 houses on my dead-end street, property values ranging from $80k
to $250k
nubbins`: "making it fit for
the gentry"
nubbins`: due
to
the wonders of gradual gentrification,
there are very few "poor areas" in my city larger
than a block or so
Namworld: I'm in a poorer area of
the city, but far from
the poorest.
nubbins`: Namworld
this is generally
true of anyone living in a "first world" country
Namworld: I could probably live better on much less if I moved
to another country.
Namworld: Speaking of life quality, by all estimates, I won't be lacking funds in
the future. But as long as
that's not a reality and is just on paper, my living standards are pretty low. Well according
to local standards anyway.
nubbins`: on
the dim side, it requires a complete dismantling of
the phone
nubbins`: on
the bright side, a replacement part is only $25
Namworld: I got hit hard when I joined
the forum. Didn't expect what I stumbled upon. It seems everyone are connected with sock puppets. Mostly artifices.
nubbins`: so
the power button on my cellular
telephone has been working only intermittently
these past weeks
ozbot: imgur:
the simple image sharer
nubbins`: hmm i
think my homo zebra needs a cigarette
pankkake: a movie about scammers;
they get investors but everything is faked
chetty: typical of whats being put out as 'science'
these days actually
Namworld: Scams aside, if you're not doing any kind of lending/investing, BTC can be very secure and works very well in
the digital space for wealth
transfer.
Namworld: The forum is like
the street, don't invest lots of cash with anyone you meet with good sounding claims.
Namworld: Most of
the
time,
the appearance of being professional, having offices and all is pure artifice and money wasting.
Namworld: Sending Bitcoins
to Neobee is like investing cash in
the guy screaming on
the street corner he's starting a bank. He start by buying pamphlets and distributing
them for advertising
the business, hyping and
taking further cash in.
mike_c: ;;create bitbet "The dilbert comic from April 2nd will be posted in b-a more
than 10
times"
ThickAsThieves: it also doesnt separate whether
those vegetarians became such
to help with said health problems
Namworld: The issue is people fail
to realize Bitcoin isn't like banks, it's like cash for
the digital space.
pankkake: so
the study doesn't even even
try
to separate other factors (i.e. vegetarians being more physically active and health conscious, while non vegetarians includes mcdonalds eating couch potatoes)
Namworld: People borrowing/wanting cash for
their business/family/whatever. Even friends/family often. You
then have
to run after
the money/never see it again.
Namworld: I'm not sure why you're so pissed VanCleef... Bitcoin acts like cash but digital. hard
to get back, no reversal mechanism.
ozbot: Study: Vegetarians Less Healthy, Lower Quality Of Life
Than Meat-Eaters « CBS Atlanta
nubbins`: i really like
these "face for face" silver coins
nubbins`: altho
TBF if he's realized he just blew
too big of a wad and wants $$ back, i
think ATC will be a bit of a hard sell
nubbins`: well, i
tell ya what.
there's
this guy, see, and he wants
to sell a coin
pankkake: 6BTC is probably
the whole ATC market cap!
nubbins`: also, i got
this weird
twinge in my sides at 11:54, strange
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i can ask him if he'd accept ATC... what's 6BTC worth of ATC
these days, anyway?
mircea_popescu: (i last followed nba cca 1993, cause i was playing some pretty cool simulator for
the pc.
pankkake: so, when will
there be a gold future on mpex? will it be called pmex? :)