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cmyers: to discuss how certain I am, you ahve
to define which god you are
talking about.
cmyers: I am certain I do not believe in a god. I am not certain
there is no god
cmyers: I am open
to evidence
to
the contrary, but
thus far I ahve seen no evidence
danielpbarron: police will rip your car apart
trying
to justify
the search, and
then
they might plant evidence if nothing
turns up! #nothingtohide
truffles: just a stab at
that certainty
think
cmyers: certainty is
the biggest enemy of
truth.
cmyers: I've come a long way over
the years. I'm happy
to say I'm engaged, in a fulfilling job, etc etc. But in particular, I've spent a lot of
time studying (armchair-studying) epistemology, and how people know
things
ThickAsThieves: "Don't have drugs or illegal possessions in your vehicle and you have nothing
to worry about."
ThickAsThieves: " I don't
think it would be an issue if
they were stopping everyone.
The fact
that
they are picking and choosing is
the problem."
truffles: some ppl itc appear
to know it all
ThickAsThieves: "Really! If you
think you can do a better job, strap on a vest, join
the force and get your butt out
there!"
ThickAsThieves: "I
think I will call
the Sheriff and
tell him
Thank You and good job officers !!!"
ThickAsThieves: "The fact
that
they randomly are checking cars sounds good
to me!
That's how
they find
the people
that are hiding
there drugs! Why would you be so worried about it? If
they pull me over at random I have no problem with
them checking my car cuz I have nothing
to hide!
Things like
this help keep
the community safe and drug free!"
ThickAsThieves: So I posted about out
the Supreme Court found
that "narcotic checkpoints" are unconstitutional, in
the local community Facebook group. Guess what most people replied?
truffles: id rather hear about ur coding fails or procastinations
than
this gpg ..
khersonus: (yet, meaning since I said
that I would) anyway...
khersonus: none, I haven't
typed single key yet in vim either
khersonus: well, obviously my attention is not directly focused on coding at
this exact moment
khersonus: by "back
to work" I meant "back
to coding". I don't have a "day job"
dexX7: but other clients or
tools
dexX7: you can solely use message+sig
to get public key/address
mircea_popescu: they really should respecify
the
thing, have it spit out a base64 blob which can
then be used directly.
khersonus: dexX7: yeah, but
to verify a bitcoin message, you need
those 3
things
mircea_popescu: and did it in
the PLURAL
to boot. who
the fuck is
this we i wish
to know.
dexX7: <khersonus> so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. << ?? you need a privkey and a message
to generate a signature.. from
the sig+message you can derive
the public key
mircea_popescu: in other words, my blog just
told me it's only accepting comments from human beings.
khersonus: I'll be sure
to let you know how it goes
khersonus: anyway, back
to work, great
to see you guys are not afraid
to
talk
mike_c: well, i am eager
to hear about it! not sure how one profits without a counterparty
taking
the loss.
mircea_popescu: mike_c well since he says "and without
the house needing
to
take
the opposite side of a position" i imagine he's at least
tried.
khersonus: I'm also familiar with CFDs/"binary options"/wotnot
that have failed
mike_c: have you
thought
through how
to avoid
the problems it had?
mircea_popescu: that part was never difficult
to prove historically.
the other side is
the grand contribution of gpg/bitcoin
to legal practice.
khersonus: mike_c: not really. I'd like
there
to be a way/market
to profit from
the BTC/USD price movement, in bitcoin, without
there being a possibility of
the marketmaker/house going bust, and without
the house needing
to
take
the opposite side of a position
pLambert: but how
to prove message was not written after some point?
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the above stands except for some blockwitholding attacks, so for instance an empty block isn't advisably acceptable.
pLambert: would
that be useful for anything?
mircea_popescu: like 0000000000000000ab79febd4d7e160246f322fb282e1f3a7c449dd5b5c1ef44#294194 proves
this line was written no earelier
than 2014-04-04 16:19:01
mircea_popescu: pLambert a gpg message including a block and its hash could prove it wasn't made before
that block yes
pLambert: I was just
thinking, for gpg
timestamp authenticity, you could add
the last few bitcoin block hashes from
the blockchain
to your message?
khersonus: I'm working on something I
think you might find interesting, MP, but it will require a few more months of me working on it (just in case I find some hole I overlooked in
the implementation
that I didn't
think of in
the planning stages)
pLambert: mircea_popescu: but
that requires moving
the coins, and bloats
the blockchain
khersonus: it requires a blockchain
transaction
khersonus: but if I wanted
to do
this on a larger scale,
that is not exactly handy
mircea_popescu: khersonus you can, if somewhat more circumvolutedly. you sign a gpg "x address will pay 0.04875983 btc
to y address at z
time"
mircea_popescu: ie,
the bitcoin address signature protocol is good enough
to support it.
khersonus: I'm more interested in proving address ownership, which you can't really do with just GPG, as far as I can
tell
mircea_popescu: now,
the problem of making a bot / extending one already present is not worth
the mention
mircea_popescu: and i ain't running whoever's code, so cli is right out for
them. gotta do
the bot.
mircea_popescu: it makes 0 diff
to me if i
type ;;sig in here or gpg in a cli. all i want is
to have somewhere i can
type into.
khersonus: I've seen
the MPEX messaging
thing with pastebin websites, pretty cool, but, it's not ;;sig
pLambert: ..
then you gotta hit it harder?
mircea_popescu: a contender can't expect me
to simply invest in
the infrastructure.
mircea_popescu: i don't need/want one for gpg personally. because i already have
the infrastructure in place
to do
that for me.
mircea_popescu: it's declaratory (in
the sense
that
the signer can set it
to any arbitrary value he wants)
khersonus: can you do
that with GPG? I haven't seen it used before
mircea_popescu: khersonus if i can't have a bot
to which i go ;;sig blabla and it spits out a "so and so signed
this
thing on
this date" it's useless
toi me.
khersonus: so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. GPG needs: public key, message, signature. About
the same, right?
mircea_popescu: i've hired
the something awful experts
that made beeboopity
to do it.
pLambert: wouldn't neeobee acquisition have
to go in April? or has he been working behind
the scenes
this whole
time ;)
mircea_popescu: yeah, s.mg is going
to re-release neo as a zork-type game
mike_c: pLambert: he's just finishing up
the neobee acquisition before releasing
the march report :)
khersonus: in
this case it does seem coinbr uses it
to secure coins, I'm assuming if you reset an account password you can withdraw
pLambert: what is
this, monthly reports? pfht, you should
tell us
they will be ready in
two weeks
mircea_popescu: we've never got
to
the security of it. it's badly implemented as in, let me find
the discussion.
khersonus: have any of you seen
the "sign message" feature of bitcoin used for a service in
the wild?
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mircea_popescu: khersonus i
tend
to walk a lot. i like european-style
towns, where most everything is designed for
the pedestrian.
khersonus: do you walk 10 miles for
the purpose of getting somewhere, or just for exercise?
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mircea_popescu: i walk a good 10 miles a day, but i wouldn't bother
trying
to run50
nubbins`: mircea_popescu he'll certainly be allowed
to get hurt if he shows up
to
this race
nubbins`: nevermind
that seasoned runners will
train 8 months for a marathon
mircea_popescu: it's a mental problem of kids
that weren't allowed
to get hurt.
nubbins`: so he's gonna do
two back-to-back