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jborkl: what God is
the correct one, I need
to make sure
to pick correctly- kinda important.
danielpbarron: often enough
to know
that most catholics don't even believe
their own false dogma, let alone
the real Gospel
tg2: I married a catholic and didn't get married in a church, does
that make me OK?
the20year2: how often do you
talk
to
them about catholicism?
tg2: none,
they are all hethens
the20year2: I'm curious, how many catholics do you personally know and
talk
to daniel?
tg2: somebody ask assbot what he
thinks on
the matter
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr is on his way
to hell; catholicism is a false religion
the20year2: mircea_popescu: you've paid attention
to
this whole HFT
thing, right?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well so
there you go, your master can make you make a choice. qed.
tg2: where was it assumed
that god can cause
the choice
to be made?
danielpbarron: to Jesus and
to
the United States of America Corporation
rithm: does god exist everywhere or not. I mean
this whole omnipresence
thing just makes me
think I'm god.....
truffles: danielpbarron id agree with
that
tg2: so
that he could judge him
danielpbarron: a master can make a slave WISH he made a certain choice; God can literally cause
the choice
to be made
mike_c: no, you are not saying it makes sense. but you are saying
that it would make sense if we were god's slaves.
there may be other explanations, but
that is one possibility
that makes sense. i'm pretty sure you said
that.
danielpbarron: the master cannot neccessarily cause
the slave
to make choices; God can
rithm: oic
this is your fanciful game, not
theirs
truffles: well i
think i brought up
the religion
thing
rithm: r u guys
talking about christianity
mircea_popescu: mike_c im not saying it makes sense, i'm merely saying
thaty your proposed explanation of why it wouldn't make sense is a description of what you didn't understand of it and nothing more.
mike_c: ok. so you are saying
that chapter in genesis makes sense if we are god's slaves. i can accept
that.
rithm: or
the romanian belongs
to someone
tg2: is
too heavily written
truffles: Someone made
the discussion about
themself, why he is like God
to his slave because he locks her up etc..
tg2: and
then, unto his followers, he said, "scroll, and all shall become clear".
mircea_popescu: ok. ascribing a purpose
to my actions is what frustrates
the slavegirls,
too.
tg2: too lazy
to scroll up, what are we arguing about
mike_c: i am aware
there is a distinction.
mircea_popescu: mike_c you familiar with
the cause/purpose distinction ?
SatoshiJack: I believe
the Son of God rocks for sure -- No one could kick Hercules's ass !
the20year2: For
those of you
that live in europe, what does home insurance run?
mike_c: but you do
those
things for a reason. so unless god had a reason,
the parallel is not
there. i can not imagine what you are saying god's reason is.
tg2: ITT god
trolls #bitocin-assets
truffles: u dont know her
thoughts at all
times for 1
mircea_popescu: i am saying
that what you propose about god is within my own personal experience, and in
the experience of people i know.
this has factually happened.
the20year2: A local landlord here hired a liquidation company for a few of her properties, in
the end she got way more
than I would have ever predicted
mike_c: well,
then you are saying
the slave is doing something useful. what are we doing
that is useful for god?
truffles: mike_c i dont
think God needs
to do
that,
thats what ppl like mp are for
mircea_popescu: mike_c you ascribe
tho. slavery is not necessarily or even much about power
tripping.
the20year2: I've already contacted a liquidation specialist, and our corp atty
to see what needs
to be done, granted in real estate I've done it before plenty of
times.
That way if i was
to get run over by a bus, die from
too much blow, ect
there'd be an automatic liquidation process
that would go
through
mike_c: so god is just fucking with us so he can play out a power
trip. hm.
mircea_popescu: the20year2 just make sure it doesn't
turn into a novel way
to "sorry lost all
the coins".
the20year2: I posted on BTCtalk, but i'm
thinking in light of what's going on with N&B and danny
that we (RS) elect a special POA in case I disappear
mircea_popescu: that flows from
the role definition, not much argument even.
mircea_popescu: but in
the context of a slavegirl and her universe,
the master is both.
mircea_popescu: mike_c you're familiar with frame of reference. it can readily be argued
that in
that context, i am actually both.
danielpbarron: you are saying what Christ should have done; who are you
to reply against God?
danielpbarron: the20year2: you are adding
to
the word; you don't know what God should or shouldn't have done
mike_c: mircea_popescu: yes, humans (not omnipotent, not omniscient) do
things like
this.
the20year2: He
told
them
to come
to him who are weary, burdened, ect so
they could believe in Him, so
they could be changed. If it wasn't a choice ,Christ would have never said ' come
to me', he would have just done it
to
those whom he was speaking
to.
truffles: whatd did she do
that she didnt already do
that caused banishment??
danielpbarron: mike_c: we don't know
that someone
told Eve she was naked
mike_c: 1) He made eve eat
the apple. 2) He knew who
told eve she was nekked. 3) He had a conversation about it with her anyway, already knowing
the answers,
the outcome of
the conversation, and everything
that would happen before and after.
danielpbarron: the20year2: no, He doesn't say why He asked
that question
jborkl: mircea, is -pr still banished from
the forum?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> he's just asking random questions for no reason because he already knew and he made eve do it anyway? << i actually do
this.
mike_c: DON'T YOU SEE
THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
the20year2: If choice doesn't exist,
then why does Christ say "Come
to me all who are weary"
mike_c: oh geez. biblical determinism.
then why did god ask who
told
they were nekked??
danielpbarron: that doesn't mean man choose
to make
the offering, God caused
the choice
danielpbarron: the Bible mentions "free will offerings" which are animal sacrifices
that do not coresond
to a sin having been committed
truffles: in some english
translation its
there
danielpbarron: truffles:
that is not
true;
the concept of "free will" has no Biblical foundation
mircea_popescu: apparently
their office is abandoned, employees unpaid went home.
truffles: for a believer danielpbarron has a weird view of
things
the20year2: truffles:
that's
the gist of
the story
truffles: acutally eating
that apple was
the beginning most likely
the20year2: i saw
that mircea_popescu. I was curious if anyone had actually stopped by
their offices in Cyprus?
truffles: <danielpbarron> He's an all powerful God; if He didn't cause evil (and evil exists)
then He is not all powerful >>>> my understanding was God made His creations and left
them
to freewill which amounted
to
this widespread evil
mircea_popescu: the20year2
there was some article earlier, apparently
they're bein investigated for fraud by cyprus police now.
jborkl: well now
that is gross, you know what is on
the floor?
jborkl: she needs
to wash her nasty feet