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Luke-Jr: mike_c: that means you are *accountable* for being Catholic
mike_c: no, you don't. where do you get this crap?
Luke-Jr: mike_c: to be Catholic, you need to believe everything the Church teaches, by definition
kakobrekla: at this rate we will do luke-jr.bash.bitcoin-assets.com
mike_c: as a matter of fact i don't believe any of this crap and am still a catholic
Luke-Jr: mike_c: saying so doesn't make it true
Luke-Jr: jurov: furthermore, someone who believes that unbaptised babies *don't* go to Hell, is not a Catholic
JWU42: mod6: you get a gold star for that
mike_c: "Baptism does not exist to wipe away the "stain" of original sin, but to initiate one into the Church,"
jurov: Luke-Jr: they are, if they are convinced it's truth
JWU42: that was too good
jurov: mike_c: so what the babies do with the mortal sin? do tell
mircea_popescu: lmao this neobbq shit is so lulzy
Luke-Jr: jurov: Catholics are not allowed to lie for any reason.
JWU42: It's a cult I tell you
jborkl: They are thinking about it
mircea_popescu: do demons have buttsex with dead babies then ?
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: is the amends required?
jurov: mike_c: you were probably bapized as adult. they are allowed to tell adults lies such as this to get them into the church
Luke-Jr: mike_c: your "god" is a demon then
JWU42: and there goes the looney alarm
mike_c: no, they don't. god told me
Luke-Jr: mike_c: yes they do
mike_c: that's not entirely true jurov. unbaptized babies dont go to hell
JWU42: I did get baptized - so i have that going for me
Luke-Jr: jurov: no, that's included
jurov: unbatized souls go straight to dumper
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: repenting is a prerequisite to making amends, it isn't amends in itself
JWU42: so basically I am in deep sh*t then Luke-Jr ;)
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: the only "amends" is repenting
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: by sinning, we offend God and ought to make amends; whether one is damned is based solely on his being on good terms with God (ie, not in a state of mortal sin)
mircea_popescu: this danielpbarron Luke-Jr thing looks like twu wuv.
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: a believer owes fasting to God? will they be damned if they don't?
locksmith: some fud be good fud, i.e., I got fud that buying this shit gonna have a bad time
JWU42: I am sure there is more than enough to keep me busy
mgio: damn the market cap on havelock is just 265 btc, ima buy up the whole company
mircea_popescu: JWU42 that's about 10mb worth of logs to keep you entertained
mircea_popescu: or however you spell these things
JWU42: I ahve been away from this for so long I missed the whole weex graet.load neo.bee crap
mircea_popescu: awww, all this fud.
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: twofold: 1) to make amends to God; 2) to give up legitimate pleasure, as practice for subjecting our bodies to our will so that when we are tempted to do evil, we can resist it better
assbot: Last trade for NEOBEEQ on HAVELOCK was at 0.00012972 BTC [+]
assbot: Last trade for NEOBEE on HAVELOCK was at 0.00187956 BTC [-]
locksmith: JWU42 some never knew of this channel don't want to point to names -----> cryptocyprus
JWU42: forgot all about this channel
mircea_popescu: i wanted the old price.
danielpbarron: you forgot the 'Q'
Namworld: That's probably more than it's worth, but eh
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
locksmith: anyhooo people, for those thinking of buying, danny is with his trollface selling on the other side of the screen
Namworld: Look, I bought out your whole "good business offer" for less than 1 BTC, fellow forum members.
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: then what is the purpose of fasting as a penance?
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: not of themselves, no
mircea_popescu: locksmith a that i have no idea.
locksmith: couldn't read all that shit without getting a headache
Namworld: Like 1 satoshi, maybe. I'd buy the whole Neobee just for the lulz.
locksmith: mircea_popescu I got that, just wasn't sure as to if you were referring to particular posts
mircea_popescu: locksmith just mocking teh forum doods.
Luke-Jr: idolatry: the worship of a picture or object as a god
Namworld: Why are people even buying Neobee that high?
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: there are examples in the Bible of God causes evil men to further good works
locksmith: cazalla thanks for the heads up
jurov: i can't adore my cock without also worshipping God at the same time by the same logic
Duffer1: saying it's not idolatry does not negate the fact that it's idolatry
stompysteve: so what does everything thing about neobee right now whats it worth
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: keep in mind that the Catholic Church *produced* the Bible. so if you question the Church, there is no basis to accept its product either
cazalla: locksmith: lurk more, it was funny if you understand the context
Duffer1: saints not adored?! are you smoking crack, there's a thriving market for silver/gold trinkets of the various saints
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: all of them
Luke-Jr: Prayer is a form of worship. <-- but not all worship is reserved for God. this is where English-age heretics try to abuse the language
locksmith: I actually know the people at neo
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: can you please cite scripture to back your claims
Duffer1: why luke b trollin ?
cazalla: locksmith: you can't talk down neobee you troll
Duffer1: i skimmed the logs but have been unable to determine what precipitated this asinine conversation
Luke-Jr: Catholicism is further entrenched in idolatry in the veneration of the saints. <-- the saints are not adored; there is no idolatry here either; furthermore, one cannot worship a saint without also worshipping God at the same time, since the saint's virtue all comes from God
jurov: Oh yes, Loving God Father, in His infinite wisdom, created humanity and then condemned most of it to eternal suffering.
locksmith: lol what are you talking about mircea?
Luke-Jr: moiety: of course, marriage is still always to someone of the opposite sex. so it doesn't necessarily make sense that a gay person *would* marry.
mircea_popescu: expect to be extradited to romania.
moiety: epic thanks nubbins`
locksmith: who's even buying this shit
Luke-Jr: Scripture nowhere says what the Catholics teach. Nowhere does the Word of God say anything about the bread (or wine) becoming anything. <-- nor is Scripture the authority; however, it DOES document Christ saying that we MUST eat His Flesh to be saved
moiety isn't sure what she has pressed but now typing with a black box for a cursor
mircea_popescu: which is the int'l sign for butttears.
nubbins`: locksmith: the Q is whether you'll get any of your money back
nubbins`: transubstantiation, as if you needed another reason to lel
locksmith: NEOBEEQ what the fuck's the Q
nubbins`: he's got ya there, the wafer and wine is supposed to be jesus' flesh and blood in another form
mike_c: first trades, 1 satoshi!
Luke-Jr: As should be seen from the above, the wafer and the wine is the Catholic Jesus. And this Catholic Jesus (a piece of bread and some wine) is worshipped. This is idolatry. <-- worshipping God Himself is not idolatry.
locksmith: cazalla it's not, it still says trading is halted on havelock
Luke-Jr: moiety: gay people are condemned to Hell unless they repent
mike_c: i'm waiting for one of you to forget to capitalize a name or pronoun here and go straight to hell.
moiety: i thought gay people were forbidden to marry
Luke-Jr: Scripture nowhere teaches any such sacraments necessary for salvation. <-- Scripture does not teach; Christ appointed the Church to do that. Furthermore, Scripture *does* record Christ Himself mandating Baptism.
mike_c: plus Jesus himself explicitly founded the catholic church with Peter as pope, so there's that.
Luke-Jr: They deem Muslims as having salvation <-- this is not true
danielpbarron: penance 1. voluntary self-punishment inflicted as an outward expression of repentance for having done wrong. 2. a Christian sacrament in which a member of the Church confesses sins to a priest and is given absolution.
Luke-Jr: obviously he was not condemning the Church he was a bishop of