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punkman: how much of a garden are you thinking?
danielpbarron: i want to sell shares to my friends and family to start a garden on my yard (to try out managing profit/loss and paying dividends)
punkman: I should move further away from the city and get my own goat
danielpbarron: that's in past tense; i don't go back there (they are a false church)
danielpbarron: they let me milk one of the goats too
wywialm: ;;later tell bitcoinpete I've read your deflation article. Do you believe that 1) prices may be downward rigid? 2) wages may be downward rigid? If yes, what is the impact on these in a substantially deflationary regime?
MisterE: hell they are yummy to eat too
danielpbarron: i live down the road from some neighbors who have goats
MisterE: that goat cheese is the bomb too
punkman: I really prefer sheep/goat to cow milk, but can't find any consistent supply
punkman: found the most delicious sheep's milk today, non-homogenized, 6% fat, and doesn't smell like sheep ass
cgcardona_: ah yes good point. I don't mean to spam the channel. sorry bout that
punkman: you can play with the bots in private too
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6966233925.09 based on data since last change | 6959577195.63 based on data for last three days
cgcardona_: maybe I have to pay btc to get access to more than 5 assbot commands per day?
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
cgcardona_: maybe assbot has an api for showing the difficulty. i'm not sure
cgcardona_: damn the difficulty jump yesterday was intense http://bitcoindifficulty.com/
danielpbarron: yeah i'm always paying in cash and answering "no" to "want a receipt?"
MisterE: I'm in Bangkok and want money in the US in 5 min
cgcardona_: try to grab a tea and chips "oh sorry it has to be $5." "ok just double the order"
cgcardona_: $5.00 minimum payments at gas stations etc have been making me buy double the crap I want for years
danielpbarron: fees aside, why does a 3rd party have to be involved at all? They can block the trade or get the state involved
MisterE: international tx fees FFS!
pankkake: you rarely do that though. it's paypal or some bank credit card processor
MisterE: and you pay dearly for that privledge
cgcardona_: yea one of the biggest things that's changed in my perception since regularly using btc is how fucked it feels to give a stranger my credit card info.
danielpbarron: i don't want to give some stranger my credit card number to read an article
MisterE: happily pay to read ars and the sites I like
pankkake: I wouldn't have an issue with a global paywall. if I have to register to every website, fuck it
danielpbarron: but that's because FIAT SUCKS
danielpbarron: prefer ads to paywall etc
danielpbarron: before Bitcoin, i would have said the opposite to all that
danielpbarron: buy them while they are still cheap
MisterE: yea I planned to buy some credits
danielpbarron: i would so much rather pay per article then bother with ad-blocking
MisterE: extension gets the stragglers heh
danielpbarron: which should come as no surprise to anyone with even a tenuous understanding of economics
danielpbarron: most articles that are free to read usually suck anyway
danielpbarron: i'm not complaining; I like the system very much
thestringpuller: like the electricity and bandwidth trilema consumes lol
thestringpuller: yes if you want nice things you have to pay for them
danielpbarron: his is a clever system, you aren't paying to read the article forever; you're paying for the request to the server (which might happen multiple times per article if you keep going back to re-read)
thestringpuller: i have enough trilema credits to last me till mircea has a full head of gray hair
kakobrekla: thats trilema credits.
kakobrekla: we already discussed that
danielpbarron: (not that I invest at all, unless holding BTC counts)
thestringpuller: ;;later tell mike_c eulora wiki is down. /cry
danielpbarron: (not that I invested in neobee or the like)
Apocalyptic: but then don't ruin it by arguing with me what "public key" means
danielpbarron: making a credit/debit card that links to Bitcoin kinda defeats the whole purpose of Bitcoin; i realize that now
Apocalyptic: danielpbarron, yeah that's a good approach in learning
kakobrekla: <danielpbarron> i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it < BAT U GOTSTA DIVERSIFUCK
danielpbarron: i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it
Apocalyptic: seriously #bitcoin is painfull to read today...
assbot: Last trade for NEOBEEQ on HAVELOCK was at 0.00012801 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: trying to do stuff. no, scammer tag means more biz
danielpbarron: does the scammer tag mean nothing?
mikaeldice: I didn't read the article, but a cursory glance at the title ensures me that yes, it must be true.
MisterE: is it true?
ozbot: Romanian Becomes Possessed While on Live Television — LOYAL K.N.G.
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
cgcardona_: so depending on where in the spectrum the person falls it would change (obvisously)
cgcardona_: a third anecdotal evidence is my wife recently asked a local music store here on kauai if they'd let her buy me an ukelele for my bday w/ btc and they basically laughed her out of the store.
cgcardona_: On the flip side I recently took on a client in honolulu and he is incredibly tech savvy and wanted nothing to do w/ twitter integration
cgcardona_: depends what you mean by 'average' - I recently got a new part time job in SF w/ some relatively tech savvy people. During the interview we talked about btc and I told them about my project. The team leaders response was 'I think bitcoin is cool. I'm just not sure if it's gonna be the winner' (fair enough i suppose).
benkay: which affiliation makes you look dumber to the average potential client?
benkay: here's a tough one
cgcardona_: great rules btw (I only discovered the room yesterday) http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ "Pros don’t give a shit, it’s the clueless twits and assorted pretenders that do"
cgcardona_: and the passphrase was 'aaaaaaaa' - it was truly a nightmare :)
danielpbarron: individuals who oppose deflationary currencies in favor of inflationary, based on having being duped into thinking that someone would sooner starve to death then part with savings, will themselves starve to death when the infastructure feeding them inevitably collapses due to the inability of central banks to print their way into prosperity
benkay: hoarder's won't starve, misconceiving bitcoin will kill you is that the gist?
danielpbarron: (i don't mean that isn't my twitter account, it is)
danielpbarron: what are you talking about
benkay: danielpbarron: do you have this 'hoarders will starve' thesis of yours written out anywhere in more detail than 140 characters including a link allows for?
thestringpuller: better than the forums...
danielpbarron: i think it would be irressponsible to hold BTC and NOT be in here
benkay: not as in get out of here as you no doubt hear all the time, but what precisely are you doing.
benkay: hence the question "what are you doing here"
danielpbarron: am I in the wrong place? I thought this was ground zero of the Bitcoin Business community
benkay: o ya you're the troll thumper
danielpbarron: don't trust me
benkay: lotsa new handles in here -- y'all in the WoT yet?
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: depends on if the business touches fiat ever...
danielpbarron: it's pretty easy if you make sure that what goes in is more than what goes out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 66.40585632 BTC to 5`076 shares, 1308232 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.08562688 BTC to 5`076 shares, 41088 satoshi per share
pankkake: "This has been tried before. His response was about his love of life and how many of his friends and family have died when he was young."
danielpbarron: but investing isn't about making money for most individuals; they are happy just to participate
pankkake: why are they paying dividends then?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
danielpbarron: i think everything about that whole exchange is sketchy, but individuals keep using it so what do i know
danielpbarron: or http://www.cbtc.org/CBTC/Welcome.html Coastal Bicycle Touring Club?
ozbot: Community Bank of the Chesapeake, Southern Maryland and Virginia
chairman_meow: hey what do you think of CBTC losses?