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benkay: as with all installed software, i
think it's
the user's issue.
Mats_cd03: i guess
they're not starving, just homeless
benkay: pull
the other one, Mats_cd03
Mats_cd03: if you look in
the right places, it can be had
benkay: the approach i expect
to see implementers use is passwords + phone auth
benkay: there's an auth path
that does away with passwords, but i don't know
that anyone's going
to implement it.
benkay: don't be
too harsh on
the guys,
they need
to
throw down another 10-20k on branding and copy.
Mats_cd03: benkay re:
tozny...tag line says eliminate
the need for passwords, so is
this just... auth by phone?
benkay: i'm insufficiently capitalized myself
to
talk about capitalization
benkay: i had nothing
to do with
that comment, pLambert
pLambert: benkay: is
there any capitla left
to fly?
pankkake: that really is non-news. you never were forced
to answer, unless by contract (which is likely not going
to change)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 3.14364288 BTC
to 7`651 shares, 41088 satoshi per share
Musk: This kind of news might lead
to capital flying out of
the country
though.
Musk: Hey guys are you lazy workers? yes..
then move
to france.. its now illegal for employers
to contract you after 6PM.
benkay: dignork: i understand
the situation on
the ground.
mike_c: yes, it's not like france where
they just
take your whole paycheck and give you a few dollars a week for coffee and cigarettes.
pankkake: paying
taxes, what a strange idea
dignork: benkay, but
they
tax you only when switching btc
to something else, as in barter deal
Musk: benkay Lets all watch Bloomberg
t.v
the essances of real economic news...
benkay: seems like it'd make more sense if
they just
taxed you on
the acquisition of coins. just like normal income.
benkay: so
this irs position where you get
taxed on
the increase in value of your coins
benkay: this is why everyone should be
taught
to fight at age six
ozbot: Mass stabbing at Pennsylvania high school | World | News |
Toronto Sun
benkay: highly confusing
to catch
the pm note before
the actual pm,
thestringpuller ;)
Apocalyptic: seriously what kind of spam I get.. moreover
the domains are shitty
benkay: (sneak peek everyone: soon
to announce having performed actual crypto audit and implemented fixes!)
Apocalyptic: bargain pricing
that I
thought you guys would like
to know about as
they
benkay: does one
thing, and
that well.
benkay: bounce: re "intuitive" computing: i build
this shit all day and only occasionally hate my life.
the only
time it makes sense
to me is when it's not so much a bit of software (software nominally empowering humans
to do
things
they could not before) but a
tool (in
the sense of a hammer, used
to do a specific
thing).
Shakespeare: just keep forgetting
to unlock my name in 30secs
benkay: Shakespeare: is
that you,
TaT?
mike_c: visual inspection of code is a crappy way
to
test anyway.
Shakespeare: benkay,
the issue (and likely reality) I see with your NSA
theory is
that it would echo
to all versions ever
jurov: djb just
threw it all out and made his own from
the ground up
benkay: mike_c: kinda falls down when
the eyes/kloc gets
too small, or
the l' of c are unreadable.
mike_c: isn't 'thousands of eyes' always
the flawed argument why open source software is safe?
benkay: mircea_popescu:BingoBoingo: So... what Open source alternatives are
there
to OpenSSL which aren't as much of a bitch
to read? <<
this is actually a very large, and very open problem. <<
http://golang.org/pkg/crypto/tls/, seems
to be about 8kloc
Mats_cd03: and
the part where
thousands of eyes have suddenly started running diffs against repos?
benkay: pLambert: i suppose
that's for His Busyness
to determine, eh? not us plebs...
mike_c: i had
this
thought last night. if i was
the nsa, and i had injected
this awesome new backdoor into 1.0.1f, and i was really anxious for everyone
to upgrade right now.. I would publicize my outdated backdoor called heartbleed.
pLambert: how immediately is immediately in
this case?
jurov: pLambert: her blog is named
The Whet
benkay: <pLambert> do we still call her mpoe-pr even
though she got laid off?
benkay: (f)Immediately upon publication of each Statement of Profit and Loss MPOE/MPEx will pay
to shareholders as dividends a fraction of no less
than 100% (one hundred percent) of
the Net Profits, if any.
benkay: with
the Statement of Profit and Loss of
the next month.
benkay: (e)Mircea Popescu solemnly promises and warrants
that complete and accurate Statements of Profit and Loss for each Reporting Month will be published by him no later
than by
the fifth day of
the new month. Under exceptional circumstances and for good cause
the publishing of
the Statements of Profit and Loss can be deferred no more
than once in a calendar year so
that
the Statement of Profit and Loss of one month is published
together
jurov: i propose delayed divs
to be compounded by MPBOR >:-]
Guest12166: maybe
this
time he wants
to get it right!
pLambert: do we still call her mpoe-pr even
though she got laid off?
jurov: the payout must involve
truly heroic effort
mike_c: hm, it is later
than usual. mp must be busy.
pLambert: I don't have
time for patience!
pLambert: just wondering,
the report came out a few days ago ...
pLambert: has s.mpoe paid dividends
this month yet?
assbot: Hell, ain't we about more fucked
than a whore at closin'
time, huh?
assbot: Last
trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00096731 BTC [+]
mike_c: "Nowhere in
the Bible does Jesus have a sword fight."
mike_c: BingoBoingo:
thank you.
that easter link made my day. hilarious :D
MisterE: Guest76571: hows
the weather?
Musk: Guest12166 so hows
the weather? :3
Musk: Guest15829 so hows
the weather? :3
robwhiz22: BingoBoingo: I'll
try later and see if he's on.
robwhiz22: BingoBoingo:
thank you. He
told me
to
talk with him here.
BingoBoingo: robwhiz22: His name autocompleted, so he'll prolly see what you
type
Musk: for
the love of dumplings.
jurov: adolf_fishler:
test failed
ozbot: Mircea. Mircea Monroe. pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jurov: romanian lang is close
to french
MisterE: sounds very French
to my Yankee ears
MisterE: mircea_popescu: is
that a Romanian name?
fluffypony: we're at
the VertCoin stand, so you can go look at our stuff in person
fluffypony: who's going
to
the Crypto Currency Convention in NY?
mircea_popescu: keonne you can always ask
teh people after
the conference.
mircea_popescu: here, i gave up
trying
to post
the shit in irc, made a blogpost instead.
ozbot: Filantropica pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
keonne: Mostly because I have no idea what
to expect
keonne: I believe I am visiting Romania
this year, I'm looking forward
to it very much
keonne: mircea_popescu: when watching
that film, how much of it is still relevant
to Romania
today
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: oh I misunderstood
the "ipad ftw." comment
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: what do you use for IRC on
the iPad? Colloquy?
mircea_popescu: actually, if anyone cares
to explore
this
topic, i've wtf'd my foreign slaves with "filantropica", a romanian movie of
the 90s. pretty much a slice of life, could as well be a documentary.
mircea_popescu: which goes back
to my original genderless soup comment :
they're not better about
the problems,
they just avoid
them more.
fluffypony: in
the US it's
terrorism + natural disasters +
the NSA
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yep, but
the idea persists
mircea_popescu: well,
that part can even be set aside. raping babies does not actually cure aids.
fluffypony: like a complete disregard for logic when it comes
to "rape a baby as a cure for AIDs"
joecool: ah, yeah just looked it up, it has
the advertising clause
that makes it incompatible with GPL without an exemption
fluffypony: the problem is
that
the women-as-sex-objects view among native African males leads
to some weird crap
mircea_popescu: kinda have my doubts of
this weird construct's chances of survival, but we see.
mircea_popescu: well "women" in
the
traditional sense hardly exist in
the newer generation. it's pretty much a genderless soup
fluffypony: the younger generation is better with
that
mircea_popescu: well most people alive, or historically existing had
the same view.