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Apocalyptic: hum bitcointalk.org still haven't replaced
their SSL cert
benkay: ofc a java guy sez
to abandon haskell for real world stuff
daybyter: I write
trade stuff in java...
Naphex: throw in some C optimizations if
things are slow
Apocalyptic: and on
the scrolldown chose "Présomption d'offre irrégulière de produits ou de services financiers"
jurov: i know but it's better
to competently
translate it
to french
jurov: ;;later
tell davout "We are searching for someone
to help us lodge a complaint with AMF, can you recommend anyone?
This bourse stuff is completely lame but he's
too persistent."
Naphex: benkay: you use it
to experiment and have some fun,
then switch
to something else for real life
benkay: asciilifeform: what's
the story with haskell?
Naphex: they should've used
that as a namespace separator
Naphex: probably
the fake php ceo
ozbot: Readings &
Teachings
ozbot: imgur:
the simple image sharer
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: we just need
to work out a message for you
to write, so we know it is really you nao
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: NO WAY! It has my name on
the shirt!
robwhiz22: I have another commitment. mircea_popescu
thank you for
taking
the
time
to consider
the proposals. Please feel free
to reply by email, including with any questions or clarificatoins.
fluffypony: nubbins`: apparently some stores do carry
them, but
they're uncommon. Staedler is massive.
nubbins`: where do you live,
the moon? :(
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: It is less about
the kind of marker and more what you do with it.
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: I just made one in paint, will
that do?
nubbins`: the riddler here won't
tell us
robwhiz22: I suggest if he likes hte notes,
that he accept my proposal, wait
to receive
the results, and
then he can publish if he feels
the need.
robwhiz22: Though I should edit
them if
they were
to be posted publicly. (Something I don't suggest at
this stage.)
robwhiz22: As I said, I didn't
tease with
the notes but summarized in full.
BingoBoingo: Hmmm... mircea_popescu has been quite. I sense a
Trilema coming
robwhiz22: Other clients I've made such submissions
to (who have paid for
them) use
the results very happily, but do not publish my work directly.
THat's
the sense in which I meant it is internal.
robwhiz22: BingoBoingo,
this isn't an auction. It is up
to Polimedia
to publish
them when it is ready
to do so. (If it wants
to.)
kakobrekla: ill pay
the same but have buttcoin instead
BingoBoingo: robwhiz22: I'll buy
the notes you have so far for a princely 0.0025 BTC
benkay: mircea_popescu: would you pastebin
the
thing?
robwhiz22: nubbins`, I submitted a proposal
to Polimedia, as part of it I gave
the "notes" benkay is referring
to. I didn't
tease with
the notes or allude
to
them.
robwhiz22: if mircea_popescu wants he can release
the write-up, I will clean it up as part of
the follow-up proposal.
robwhiz22: benkay - I didn't mean
to cause you
to want
them. For
the moment
they belong only
to Polimedia.
nubbins`: robwhiz22: so what are you
trying
to sell?
robwhiz22: nubbins`, I am not exactly selling
that. I described it in full in
the email, and I am happy
to clean it up for public consumption for free, along with my follow-up proposal.
nubbins`: "click here
to subscribe and keep reading" sorta
thing
nubbins`: having major problems with
the placement of my return key here
today
benkay: he sent polimedia a
thing
tho, right?
benkay: why, someone else's going
to do
the security proposal
thinger for cash?
benkay: robwhiz22: why not publish your letter
to polimedia here?
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, i.e. because it must be well-thought out, detailed, and edited, with supporting arguments. It is quite a bit of work
to do an internal design proposal for
these reasons.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, unlike
the NSA which
tends
to hand-wave as
they propose certain specific vulnerabilities without giving reasons, my reasoning is stated.
This is part of why it is a bit difficult
to prepare
the proposal in full and I don't do it except if an initial offer is accepted.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu,
thank you for
the compliment :) But
the proposal is not
the work of an organization. I would, as stated, personally offer it. As well it has its limits and must be
taken in as just an internal proposal.
mircea_popescu: right right. anyway, review
teh sec letters. nsa wants
to
talk it'd better not be sending me derpy proposals in
the mail. get ready for a full exchange agreement, and i get
to veto
the next president.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I agree with you. I
think it has a large market.
mircea_popescu: why's you lot so worried about
teh cardano anyway ? it's just a strong crypto device with impenetrable rng, what of it ?
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, yes I
thought also
that it works and
thought it might be shipping. For security reasons it is obviously a great benefit if it is not quite clear whether it is shipping,
to whom, and in what quantities.
mircea_popescu: we had a few, but
they eventually married asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: but nice going on
the boundry checking lol. srsly, it works.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, do you have a
target date?
robwhiz22: By
the way I did not realize
that you were not shipping
this item at all, since I ran across a post
that says it is shipping by xmas 2013, as well as I saw prototype
that seemed nearly usable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform would you like
to buy my "how
to get laid in egypt if you had a
time machine" guide ?
robwhiz22: I mean
the ones
that were accepted and paid for.
The ones
that aren't accepted, I don't write.
robwhiz22: But
to go back
to my experience - overall all of
the proposals of
this
type
that I have written have been unpublished publicly. (i.e. for internal use.)
mike_c: have you seen blogs.bitcoin-assets.com? nobody polishes
their
turds around here. just publish it.
robwhiz22: You will have
the write-up
to do with as you want, including releasing as-is. However I do not
think
that
type of disclosure is necessary. I would suggest you simply deploy
the specific mitigations in
the verison
that ships.
bounce proposes
to include robwhiz22 in
the premium version of
the rng. such noise!
robwhiz22: (But did included
the main disclosures, which
together make
the current Cardano specs unfit for any purpose - although it is very close
to being fit.)
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, if you like I can prepare
the disclosure for public consumption. You can
then release it. For obvious reasons of haste, I did not include a highly polished and edited write-up with
the preliminary email.
bounce: upshot of having
tech development go much faster is
that now, if you're
trying
to dig "forgotten"
tech back up,
the people who originally made it might still be alive. not so much with, oh,
the roman
taxi meter, or
things like
that.
mike_c: not all of us can solder
together our own
trng
robwhiz22: I wrote privately
to
the Polimedia office at
the address at which
the Cryptome announcement solicited feedback.
mike_c: sure it is, ascii uses it
to generate his bitcoin wallets :)
mircea_popescu: and moreover...
the product is not deployed. any disclosure is responsible by definition
mike_c: how can you say it would not be responsible disclosure when
that is exactly what
the manufacturer is asking you
to do.
Shakespeare: so you
think it has a security flaw?
then
tell asciilifeform
robwhiz22: It would not be responsible disclosure if I were
to pastebin
the rest of hte email here.