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mircea_popescu: the idea being that this isn't where you first hang out if you just heard of btc last week
benkay: there's literally no point to hanging around here without being in the wot now if you want to participate in conversation.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves to make sure the new blood we get isn't all that new.
artifexd: It seems to me, that the first advice anyone ever gets in here is "Get yo ass in the wot noob". Or something to that effect. These new rules give some teeth to that advice and start a precedent. "You followed our first piece of advice to get in here. Follow the rest, too."
bounce: not everyone gets that. and it certainly puts the pressure on.
artifexd: I'm inclined to be more selective with my ratings due to them automatically giving voice to someone in here. Asshatery is annoying.
benkay: who cares, though.
bounce: it's also going to cause bunchteen extra lines in the log, for that matter
benkay: if the content is worthwhile, more ups will come forth
bounce: up is annoying to have to do every 30 mins, and so either won't happen or cause a +1 to make the 30 mins limit go away
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user tg2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=tg2 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tg2 | Rated since: never
benkay: ;;gettrust tg2
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Trust relationship from user assbot to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 7 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013
bounce: the 30 mins is going to make people hand out ratings to stop having to !up so much
kakobrekla: yes, if you are on the assbot list and you rate someone, that is Level 2 to assbot, so that user can up itself and up others
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user benkay: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
benkay: (can voice themselves via gribble and then assbot)
benkay: anyone in any of the next lists down, eg http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla&sign=ANY&type=SENT can get voice with ident as well
benkay: anyone on this (http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=assbot&sign=ANY&type=SENT) list gets voice automatically
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
benkay: so let me get this clear
benkay: i just got blocked on building a vm so i could take a crack at it
assbot: Can't do that.
BingoBoingo: benkay: I am happy to be scooped
jurov: indeed will be fcuked, there's no word about it here: http://bitcoin-assets.com/
benkay: Mats_cd03: you might consider that WoT entry...
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6500777905.29 based on data since last change | 6694125249.86 based on data for last three days
benkay: shiny toys etc.
kakobrekla: i dunno, todays will be pretty fucked nubbins` .
nubbins`: and this is supposed to cut down on cruft in the log?
truffles: didnt expect that itc :D
bounce: up in msg then up in chan
nubbins`: how in the world would you up yourself in the chan?
kakobrekla: you can atm still up yourself on chan after you up yourself on pm, i will make disable this nao
bounce: not sure about the 30 mins. if there's a !down...?
kakobrekla: if you are !upped from chan from someone else, everyon that is upped via pm can down you
kakobrekla: if you !up yourself through pm noone can !down you
assbot: Voicing truffles for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: !up truffles
nubbins`: i type /timer 1 /msg assbot !up
ThickAsThieves: so what if i make a script that up/downs nubbins every time assbot sets mose +v?
assbot: Can't do that.
assbot: Can't do that.
nubbins`: wait, you can only be !downed by the person who !upped you?
nubbins`: worked that time
nubbins`: anyone except tat
benkay: well, nubbins` can !up himself, and then anyone can !down him.
bounce: does it even ask gribble for the matching gribble nick?
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nubbins` to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nubbins%60&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
assbot: Can't do that.
ThickAsThieves: welcome to the new order!
benkay: there is now a hard technical prerequisite.
benkay: and if someone in the WoT likes the person, they get voice
benkay: not the chan
asciilifeform: everybody blames the mice.
nubbins`: next thing ya know, people start acting like sookybums and kicking people they don't like
nubbins`: i don't really want -assets to have ops
ThickAsThieves: decntralize the responsibilities!
ThickAsThieves: it takes responsibility out of kako's hands
nubbins`: or !mute with the same conditions as !up
ThickAsThieves: which leads me to a pro
ThickAsThieves: like when minersdidit pollutes for an hour, a couple can say hey kako can you mute this fucker?
bounce: doesn't work on the log
nubbins`: too much static? tune 'em out
nubbins`: it's not that hard ;(
bounce: not disagreeing with you there
ThickAsThieves: it also adds inconvenience, like if i am mobile and wanna lurk and maybe comment, i dont wanna have to auth and have all tools needed to do so on my phone
bounce: but a +v on join would work too, I suppose
ThickAsThieves: yeah it's fun n all, i'm just unclear what the pros are
nubbins`: efnet didn't have all these peculiar channel modes ;(
BingoBoingo: I like this. This is different, and interesting.
ThickAsThieves: if initiating noobs is a value held commonly here, isn't this a problem?
bounce: there's +q for that, too.
nubbins`: or, y'know, +v on join with the option to -v if too noisy/stupid
bounce: I expect the goal was to silence trolls like the one filling today's log for a goodly while. hence the raising and lowering of the fence suggestion.
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BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: To make sure new blood doesn't have GRIDS
nubbins`: if not the purpose, certainly the result
ThickAsThieves: what's the purpose exactly?
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> so, anyone think this is a bad idea ? /// I'm conflicted
BingoBoingo: Less graphics, moar text
bounce: so, uhm. how about a way to up and down the fence as needed, too?
BingoBoingo: Just make an ncurses type interface. Everyone loves that
SatoshiJack: LOL everyone hates the avatars :)
jurov: just got an email from a coinbr user "i bought Bitcoin Hedge Fund on BitcoinBourse and want to list it on coinbr"
benkay: so uh rip out those avatars
SatoshiJack: none the less -- we are supporting it and working out all the details as we can --- but any play we can get at the tables and suggestions on game play etc is greatly appreciated!
SatoshiJack: True that --- we were using some of the api to push some transactions -- but for many coins -- we will have to host a daemon as well -- for cold wallet etc...
kakobrekla: block has everything you need to process atc shit
BingoBoingo: SatoshiJack: Well you don't want to leverage a block explorer too much. I mean how often has Blockchain.info been down this month
SatoshiJack: SJ -- will be taking atc --- been mining like hell to get a little bank going --- working on the backend support for it -- don't have all the function of blockchain.info over @ blockr...
kakobrekla: so why the voice then ?
benkay: what is this atc game?
nubbins`: <robwhiz22> I don't really have anything public to discuss.
benkay: well hey now let's give the man a chance
SatoshiJack: Getting there --- will be taking atc prob. by end of weekend..but you can play for free now :) and test the game play :)
BingoBoingo: SatoshiJack: Is ATC gambling a thing yet?
benkay: robwhiz22: the cost of admission is a sharpie in the pooper
nubbins`: i don't have any of those ;(
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I know you are an artist, but... that cheap?