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kakobrekla: the poor seems to be the main concern
moiety: well worth a watch, promise. i feel they are a bit similar withthe trekking and hallucinatory bits
Mats_cd03: on the subject of movies, has anyone seen sunshine?
kakobrekla: ill take a look but its got color.
moiety: kakobrekla: have you seen Seraphim Falls? I think you might like it
mircea_popescu: things never stay put, do they.
Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: word is, theyre participating in the distribution of heroin. not kids anymore
asciilifeform: 'we are the ones who serve them coffee, deliver them food, suck their cocks...'
mircea_popescu: make pretty good bread tho
asciilifeform: next comes the 'network disk', where the buggers don't need to settle for small change (ssl diddling, etc.)
mircea_popescu: and those inside the us, even less.
mircea_popescu: which is why nobody outside the us wants to use any us company fopr any purpose
mircea_popescu: it's more expensive, so you actually don't want to run a clean system.
mircea_popescu: if they can't, they'll just supoena you.
mircea_popescu: the incentive to do it is actually negative. if you run a site as a us business, and they can directly steal your data this way, they will.
Mats_cd03: i hear cambodian gangs roam the streets - ive never interacted with asian gangsters so this will be fun
moiety: apprently " there is no evidence of a successful rib-removal surgery in all of the Western world. "
asciilifeform: (tldr - the pwned didn't give a damn yesterday, and they still don't today)
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asciilifeform: afaik 'braille terminal' works similarly.
asciilifeform: nah, a little gizmo that used to be sold at 'science souvenir' shops in the u.s.
asciilifeform: eventually, someone will make a long and flexible version of this toy
asciilifeform: anyone remember the toy where a set of small pins is mounted in a frame - press in hand, and an impression of hand protrudes from the other side of the box ?
moiety: i thought thats what Prince did
mircea_popescu: moiety no, that's for making a woman. different sport.
mike_c: harder to turn that upon myself.
mircea_popescu: mike_c let's take the violence out of it. if you had one cock...
moiety: i would have to go with btctalk mike_c
mircea_popescu: founded by the portuguese as EXACTLY a corp town
asciilifeform: round up the locals, herd into factory.
mircea_popescu: they similarily did exist in the empty east
mircea_popescu: they did to some degree exist in scotland, which WAS a colony of england
mircea_popescu: well, they didn't exist in brabant as such, nor in northern italy, nor in england
asciilifeform: soviets did 'factory town' routinely.
mircea_popescu: notrly. it's more of a product of the empty spaces of the colonies, and the peculiar cvasi-catholic sects they followed.
asciilifeform: afaik 'factory town' is the historic, international norm
mircea_popescu: be very amused that anyone seriously thinks anyone'd believe they fought a war over that difference.
mircea_popescu: go around through the dormitoirs where poor irish girls were required to sleep, compare to the contemporary black slaves' situation,
mircea_popescu: like lowell used to be. very instructive place, that.
asciilifeform: i associate buses sans windows with... something else. not sure i'd care to ride in one, given a choice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's called company town.
mircea_popescu: mike_c no argument there.
asciilifeform: i suppose the stories are true; next - their own morgue, cemetery...
mike_c: many of them.
mike_c: I just hate BI. such trash. can't decide if they're worse than gawker, but it's a close race to the bottom of the toilet bowl.
asciilifeform: another interesting detail - in many u.s. states, it takes ages to actually evict someone.
moiety: "...standing outside their house accusing them (falsely) of advocating sexual assault,..." wtf?!
mircea_popescu: i guess it's better for the environment than the usual crap they do (and call "art")
mike_c: BI is (as usual) blowing shit out of proportion for headlines. 6 people were pissed they got evicted and made a sign. who cares.
asciilifeform: the 'starving artists', who often congregate in slums and enjoy the low cost, take to marching with protest signs.
asciilifeform: 'gentrification' is a liberast technical term for the process discussed here a while ago, where slightly better paid wage slaves concentrate in an area and bid up the cost of housing.
asciilifeform: because they are typically paid by the (usually broke) state gov.
mircea_popescu: what happened to "we don't negotiate to terrorists" ?
asciilifeform: this might call for some background story for the non-u.s. folks. here, 'teacher' is an iconic 'noble' profession, in the eyes of the liberasts
mircea_popescu: no but it's like... yo shithead. you make enough to buy me a tie a year and are here protesting ? you're fucked, better hope you enjoy living in a sewer.
asciilifeform: 'stop jack from evicting teachers' << evicting engineers, or accountants, is presumably ok
mircea_popescu: what sort of upside down shithole is that!
mircea_popescu: and none of the named is going around calling the employers of these fuckwits with the simple message of "fire everyone or go out of business".
mircea_popescu: check out these fuckwits.
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asciilifeform: (the only programming language i personally know, or so much as heard of, where the machine can recover intelligently from any error condition short of smoking)
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asciilifeform: me, i'm still waiting for the 'let's crib features' folks to crib common lisp's intelligent error handling.
asciilifeform: the blind 'neophilia' of programmers is their undoing.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as people are involved, there's no such thing as waste.
asciilifeform: but the waste.
mircea_popescu: google's not about to hire chicks with whips for the devteam. cheaper to reimplement d.
asciilifeform: i don't begrudge these people their weirdlangs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i imagine the way a large talent stable works is invariant. gotta let people do the stupid shit they wanna do to some degree
asciilifeform: , and could not fathom how to modify its tools without making a whole new language. They never stopped to think about how horribly wasteful this is, they just went on to create yet another language called Dodo, the Titanic, Edsel, Kyoto-agreement..."'
asciilifeform: 'A "new" language that differs from the rest of the crop by one or a couple features is proof positive that both what it came from and what it has become are mutations about to die. There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of such "languages" that people have invented over the yeare, for all sorts of weird purposes where they just could not use whatever language they were already using, could not extend it
[\]: no wonder they dumped it
asciilifeform: i still can't figure out why google had to reimplement 'D'
mircea_popescu: [\\\] apparently. they were doing some shit about "come have your name on a plaque on this statue we're building"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: conformal co. - the reimplement bitcoind folks?
mircea_popescu: i hear them brits are not kidding.
Azelphur: yea, it was a long time ago
Azelphur: and I had it interfacing with GLBSE and MPEX back in the day
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: yea, I'm pretty sure I showed you the prototypes at some point
Azelphur: but yea, was just curious, it's such a weird situation, and this getting hacked thing makes no sense
mircea_popescu: dun take this the wrong way, but i dun recall that episode. so you were going to do something like coinbr ?
Azelphur: admittedly I coulda explained that better ;)
mircea_popescu: dude what the fuck, i just had a coupla shots of brandy
mircea_popescu: you went to jail ?!
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: nah, remember you wanted me to open a brokerage, and I did a lot of code, but didn't release it because of the whole going to jail thing.
moiety: just personal taste after the other day mircea_popescu
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: sorry, designing the frontend for*
Azelphur: and they seemed fairly decent
Azelphur: so I could learn what mtgox did wrong, what they do now, that sort of thing
Azelphur: back when I was designing your exchange I actually had a conversation with tux about security
moiety: i like the new system, have to say
Azelphur: anyway, another fun question for you, do you believe the "mtgox got hacked" crap? :P
mircea_popescu: id with gribs then pm assbot !up
Azelphur: oh, I wasn't aware of the new channel settings
mircea_popescu: you're on the list yo, why not just up yourself
mircea_popescu: ima gotta have to stop mentioning people or something.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, you're not the only one plagued. conformal guys got their own robwizz turns out.
moiety: depps lesser known films turn out to be his best
mircea_popescu: fuckwit is actually to this day going around all convinced he's anything but slime somebody scraped off his work boot and failed to properly dispose of.
mircea_popescu: artifexd course, you could say that to him rather than to me. he doesn't know it, i do.