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benkay: unless btc-qt is even more badly written
than i imagined...
mrstickball: eh, guess I forgot
that you can sign without getting
the chain
benkay: you don't have
to do
that
to auth
mrstickball: I gotta re-download
the blockchain on
this new PC
benkay: i'm going
to want
to see you auth in
mrstickball: I can probably put a few hours in
to get
the WP frontend back up
benkay: but
that seems
to be
the one
that needs
the most work
benkay: i'm sure you understand
the
tradeoffs.
benkay: course, you could also hire someone across
the ocean for 10/hr.
benkay: fixed bid's another story,
though.
mrstickball: I wouldn't mind hiring someone
to re-do BuyAHash and make it look a lot cleaner, but I'm unsure what
the costs on
that'd be for a full re-do of
the frontend (the backend at least from my interactions are ok)
benkay: let me know if you feel like
throwing some money at fixing your site.
mrstickball: Whats
the URL
to your company, by
the way?
mrstickball: front end is. I have
to work with our dev
to get it working. Like I said, I've been
too busy with BAH
mrstickball: then sell
the charts
to interested parties
mrstickball: We
track video game sales for digital games
benkay: kinda allergic at
this point.
mrstickball: I've had
to nearly back out of it due
to BAH
benkay: what is
this analysis company?
cgcardona_: ^
that was supposed
to read (big letterB)
ozbot: Bitcoin and
the
Three Laws of Robotics | Lets
Talk Bitcoin
mrstickball: so imagine what I've had
to do for SEC compliance as a registered security
benkay: banging atoms
together as a business in
the states is just horrid.
mrstickball: (and my wife is building a candle factory over
the next few months, so I'm having
to help her learn all
the compliance steps)
mrstickball: Because its so much easier
to get someone in China
to do work for me
than it would be here at a factory
mrstickball: I wish all hiring was
that easy. But its not, and
that's why I
think regulation/compliance is such a huge cogwheel in
the American economy.
mrstickball: I can write someone a check and 1099-em at
the end of year... No real compliance or paperwork
mrstickball: benkay: why is
that? ... I'd argue because its so much easier and
trouble-free as an employer
benkay: what do you do
that insulates you from
the employee/contractor confusion?
benkay: you don't go
to sleep quaking in your boots about getting audited on your 1099's?
mrstickball: much easier
to 1099 someone on a retail design via a 3rd party
than it is
to look at hiring an in-house artist
mrstickball: because I co-own an analyst firm
that contracts 100% of its employees. I also run a business
that is looking
to hire via W4. Different regulatory environment, as I have
to pay a lot more in compliance for unemployment, workers comp, SS, ect
benkay: can't say as
that's any of your business, mrstickball .
benkay: some
thousands per year
benkay: none right now, sometime soon
that'll change.
benkay: comply on
taxes and employment
benkay: seems like a
thing largely out of
the control of anyone
mrstickball: benkay: What business do you run, and
tell me about your compliance department
benkay: ah
the ol' regulation lays most heavily on
those unable
to escape it
TestingUnoDosTre: Here's
the comment I liked" Second,
they look at it from
the US/European point of view. If you look at it from a global level,
there is a lot less global inequality now
than in
the 50s and 60s.
The income of Americans
then was over 100
times greater
than
the Chinese. Now it is merely 6
times greater. 1,000,000,000 people have been lifted out of poverty into
the middle class in
the last 15 years.
That is more
than
mrstickball: regulatory burden ensures
that larger businesses /
those with access
to more capital can reduce
their burden and utilize economies of scale
to leverage better positions against
the small business and poor
nubbins`: ^
the attacker went
to
the same school as me for 9 years :0
ozbot: Cabbie beaten in St. John's, forefinger and
thumb severed - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
benkay: how does
that imply causation between higher regulatory burden and inequality?
mrstickball: when
the average factory has $15,000 in compliance costs in
the US, what do you
think
they do?
mrstickball: we have more regulations on our economy (and
tax code)
than at any point in history
mrstickball: he cites deregulation as a potential cause of inequality, yet
the reality is
the EXACT OPPOSITE
mrstickball: you can't compare inequality from
the 10s and 20s
to
today simply by looking at inequality x income
TestingUnoDosTre: I read it until I realized its an emotional appeal
to socialism
benkay: mrstickball: get past
the krugman slant. let me know what you
think about
the book under review.
mrstickball: he's reviewing a book
that
takes a very dim view of economics which is
typical for Keynesians
cgcardona_: DACs don't seem like a pipedream of geeks
to me.
fluffypony: benkay: don't have
time
to read it now, added it
to my read later list
mrstickball: he was praising it for its call
to
tax
the rich more
benkay: cracks me up
that y'all would rather harp on krugman
than derp
through his review of a book written by someone else.
benkay: i guess in lieu of actual discussion
that'll have
to do.
fluffypony: so we should scroll straight
to
the comments and write "le bitcoin army is here!!!111one" ?
benkay: mrstickball: let me know when you get
to
the part where krugman reviews a book someone else wrote.
TestingUnoDosTre: Read a few paragraphs of
that
trash. Comments contained more resemblance of intelligence
cgcardona_: i
think
they're just rolling out
the
testnet and even it is real buggy
pankkake: it disconnects and never comes back, and it happens in
the irc lib, and I never got around figuring why
TestingUnoDosTre: What does ethereum actually do? Has anyone seen a result compared
to promises?
fluffypony: pankkake:
that's awesome, it should stay in chan
TestingUnoDosTre: What's your
take on auroracoin benkay. Scamcoin or. ... nevermind
benkay: distributed autonomous corporations are
the pipe dream of nerds who've never incorporated or run any business.
fluffypony: cgcardona_: benkay is a bot, he says
that as a response
to a mention of any altcoin
cgcardona_: I'm really just looking in
to it recently . Can you elaborate benkay ?
cgcardona_: What's
the general consensus on Ethereum? Something
to watch or crapcoin?
mrstickball: I knew
the person. He needed BTC. He did CIM via express, got here OK
cgcardona_: : has anyone actually used a btc atm? I've not used one yet.
they didn't have any in SF before I left.
TestingUnoDosTre: Cash
through mail- did you wait
to send btc until cash was received?
TestingUnoDosTre: Curious
to ask. Anyone ever
tried
trading bitcoins for cash in an airport, or is
that asking for
trouble?
mrstickball: benkay: I gotta re-download my wallet
to auth with Gribble. If you give me maybe 2hrs, I can re-auth
mrstickball: my
thought is
to do a mining kiosk / ATM in each store
mrstickball: the reason I ask is due
to my contract with a major US PC retailer
that wants
to sell bitcoin/litecoin products
benkay: there are a million reasons
to avoid
the atm's