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lobbes: ( my q's were related to my own skillset and not really the project as a whole, so I specifically decided to not ask them in #t )
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-10 08:30:28 diana_coman: they had a few words in #trinque; I've sent lobbes to ask if he can help with cuntoo perhaps too.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-10#1950366 << fwiw I asked my q's to trinque in his channel.
hanbot: thank you. i'll be looking for ways to "call the ships to port" this week also.
mp_en_viaje: ima issue one this coming week.
mp_en_viaje: nothing besides the commitment to doing something with it.
hanbot: mp_en_viaje what do i need to do for a license for #trilema-hanbot?
BingoBoingo: hanbot: ty
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Comment waiting in your mod/spam hopper. I suspect the quantity of log links pushed it there.
mp_en_viaje: yeah, what ever became of that guy ?
diana_coman: mod6: where's that wyatt youngster, maybe point him to #o or #t-hanbot?
diana_coman: well certainly, the scythe is a deadly tool, esp for grass :D
hanbot: death's scythe, given the previous line's about ego-annihilation. i don't see what linking'd hurt tho'. who knows who'll find what entry point to the logs captivatin'.
diana_coman: is your scythe that scythe? I'd link it, for context if nothing else.
hanbot: hmm. no, actually; i have local copies of pages i've edited less 1-3 of the most recent edits, yeesh. i just changed the paste & wot browser links today, for instance, but didn't keep the new text locally. i'ma remedy this tonight.
diana_coman: hanbot: thanks, I was just greping on your blog, lol
hanbot: for the logs: he's talking about http://thewhet.net/my-channel-trilema-hanbot/ fwiw --i don't think feedbot picks up new blog *pages*
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/minigame-smg-statement-on-q3-2019/ << Trilema -- MiniGame (S.MG) Statement on Q3 2019
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:43:05 mp_en_viaje: so no, 2k in 1920 very much isn't 100k in 2011 prices. it's AT LEAST A MILLION ; and "2011 prices" is purely an academic point anyway, because the sort of thing one could trivially buy in 1920 ~DOES NOT EXIST~, and therefore can't be bought for any amount of these 2020 "money" that very well fucking aren't either money or anything remotely like it.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-10#1950377 << There seems to be a soft consensus that had the derps everywhere stop and normalize everything at "2011 prices/dollars" for some reason. This is an endemic problem with the inter-LATAM comparative graphs. "Oh, we include data 1990 through 2018 but normalize to 2011 dollars"
ossabot: Logged on 2017-12-14 13:45:07 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751463 << it does exactly one fucking job. this one : diana_coman please don't talk to asciilifeform or take any further advice from him. total timewaste.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 07:17:27 mp_en_viaje: do you remember that instance i actually forbade your talking to alf ?
mp_en_viaje: ftr http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948686 item was actually http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2017-12-14#1751567 rather than the feb item there quoted, i discover preparing the smg report.
mp_en_viaje: but in the end, what you get is what you get, socialism only has one set.
mp_en_viaje: pretty much life as a micropayments crappy mmorpg, you can "get premium" consisting of... same-crap maybe slightly earlier than you'd be getting it anyway, or packaged in a different color or such
diana_coman: lol! fwiw there is also the predictable "hierarchy" within the shit with "end of terrace" being a degree of pride and so on.
hanbot: i can see the nouveau poor having to add a d, for the past tense, to most of their things
diana_coman: those must be my "other type" ie still shitty but not as shitty as the other; one the nouveau rich and the other the nouveau poor, lolz.
hanbot: not to sully the grandeur of Mr. Bultitude
hanbot lived on "wilshire terrace", once. it was a hole in a concrete box with a street so narrow turning around in the car was 12 points, minimum.
mp_en_viaje: re terraces : the famous mr bultitude dwelled on terraces-something. it was 1880s lingo for nouveau rich dwellings, actually.
diana_coman: hanbot: quite; I suppose the "spreading like rice terraces " could at least be related too, lolz.
mp_en_viaje: when mining colony issues it's own i-cant-believe-its-not-money scrip, the thing's called... scrip
mp_en_viaje: thus therefore, the money of today isn't money either. because that's what money is predicated on, having a town somewhere issuing it.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well, that urbanity doesn't exist anywhere currently, sure.
hanbot: mp_en_viaje that sounds like a great place, this town, let's go.
diana_coman: they do manage at times to make communist flats seem great by comparison.
mp_en_viaje: TOWN. it means things. things such as no uppity morons, everyone on the street can read greek, etc. town, you know, urbanity.
mp_en_viaje: which is my point here, i want a house in town not a house in the pretentious wilderness of "civilised" england
diana_coman: and there are 2 main types, with the victorian terraces the shittiest thing possible (they were built specifically as cheap houses for newly "not-servant-but-worker".
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i do not believe the nicer houses theory. if there's a 3 level dozen+ bedroom house anywhere, it's going to be ensconced in fifty hides' land, not on a town street.
diana_coman: hanbot: I had quite a mindfuck at first re "terraced" ; from practical experience, it seems to mean "row of houses sharing walls" really; no idea where "terrace" comes into that.
mp_en_viaje: kinda interesting historical character, gp and suspected (though never proven) serial killer, had coupla hundred patients die on him in a decade, of which the vast majority willed him the majority of theit estate.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot, this guy.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i picked it because it happened to be recorded.
hanbot: diana_coman wtf does terraced even mean, as in it has one? or it's been built on a hill and spreads itself like rice paddies?! lol
hanbot: mp_en_viaje i kinda suspect bad writing in your excerpt..."he" borrowed 2k and bought, dun mean the thing bought was capped at 2k, who borrows the ENTIRE amount they need for purchasing real estate?!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:42:57 mp_en_viaje: now how the fuck is 20k 1920s pounds "equivalent to 100k in 2011 prices", considering that in 2011 you can not even buy, FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY, that 18 bedroom house there ; all that's available is this "7 bedroom" eyesore, for over half a million pounds.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-10#1950374 - eh, nice rant and fine on money & figures; still, there are way nicer houses than that shit; "terraced" stands for shit around here but the original thing wasn't classed as terraced either so not sure why pick on that example.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:36:49 mp_en_viaje: suppose we follow some kinda procedure here, there's first a leader, who commits to the damned project, and so on.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-08 03:00:59 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949938 <-- can't say yet whether that'd take 1.5 or 3 months, but... it was my understanding that http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947274 is a pretty important item. either way, as I've said before, that plan ain't set in stone, any suggestions/guidance on priorities is more than welcome. I [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-08 03:03:38 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950067 <-- I'd really like to contribute to that, the only reason I didn't do it thus far being that there was always a pile of other shit to do
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-10 04:26:20 mp_en_viaje: so did http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950066 simply decay into the game of awkwardly waiting for each other ?
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-10#1950364 <-- http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-08#1950234 ; also, I'd still like some feedback re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-08#1950228 ; is the new deedbot functionality still on the roadmap, or...?
mp_en_viaje: the only possible equivalent of 1920s £1 today is notional "infinity", about the same as the market price of a two inch tall naked fairy chained to a fuckstick.
mp_en_viaje: so no, 2k in 1920 very much isn't 100k in 2011 prices. it's AT LEAST A MILLION ; and "2011 prices" is purely an academic point anyway, because the sort of thing one could trivially buy in 1920 ~DOES NOT EXIST~, and therefore can't be bought for any amount of these 2020 "money" that very well fucking aren't either money or anything remotely like it.
mp_en_viaje: unless, of course, one realises that what passes for "a bedroom" in 2020 is the 1920s notion of a closet.
mp_en_viaje: even leaving aside the ~select address~ problem, there's nowhere in england such a thing as a select address can be had in 2020, as opposed to 1920 : the minimum price for the human dwelling'd have to be ~an interpolated~ (for lack of actual such items on the market) 1.5 to 2 million pounds.
mp_en_viaje: now how the fuck is 20k 1920s pounds "equivalent to 100k in 2011 prices", considering that in 2011 you can not even buy, FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY, that 18 bedroom house there ; all that's available is this "7 bedroom" eyesore, for over half a million pounds.
mp_en_viaje: this thing.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in great inca lulz : "In 1929, he borrowed £2,000 (equivalent to £104,247 at 2011 prices) from a patient, William Mawhood, and bought an 18-room house called Kent Lodge, in Trinity Trees (then known as Seaside Road), a select address.".
mp_en_viaje: d assorted brainshit being the principal reason why he won't).
mp_en_viaje: and in general : the commitment to escaping management is by very far the best predictor of failure history has yet revealed ; with disavowal a major compounding factor. the "being an engineer" who "is not aware" he's deliberately fucking the records etc is absolutely never going to amount to anything (and his inept hindbrain voice whispering sweet nothings in the vein of "oh, challenge accepted", "nobody can know that" an
mp_en_viaje: none of this alf-like bullcrap.
mp_en_viaje: suppose we follow some kinda procedure here, there's first a leader, who commits to the damned project, and so on.
diana_coman: they had a few words in #trinque; I've sent lobbes to ask if he can help with cuntoo perhaps too.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:32:29 mircea_popescu: trinque, suppose spyked's game, and what you have to do is run the two fellows + whatever we can meaningfully accrete through the tmsr-ization of cuntoo.
mp_en_viaje: so did http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950066 simply decay into the game of awkwardly waiting for each other ?
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/11/reading-ossasepia-logs-or-my-jig-is-up/ << The Whet -- Reading #ossasepia logs, or: my jig is up.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/11/us-impeachment-drama-continues-building-towards-implosion/ << Qntra -- US "Impeachment" Drama Continues Building Towards Implosion
BingoBoingo will be back, on the day's 4th change of clothes. Getting "dress for the job you want" taken care of today.
BingoBoingo glad to see the auctions are getting early bidding.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 11mn from diana_coman outbidding jurov. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (140 hours 33 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1064: Selling the server formerly known as UY1 no FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 1mn from diana_coman. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:37:54.887600 UTC (140 hours 33 mins)
mircea_popescu will eschew the "you're mammals, stop trying to mate like angler fish already, femparasite bois!" article for now, though it's becoming quite self-obviously a major part of the problem of this supposedly civilised world.
mircea_popescu: i'm not making it impossible by observing its impossiblity ; you're making it impossible by the way you go about things, because fantasy is a poor substitute for ~anything~.
mircea_popescu: like one of those sperm-donating cvasi-fish doesn't think you're nearly as important as you think she does. nobody does, because nobody can, because it's NOT POSSIBLE.
mircea_popescu: you were never as important as you think yourself. i don't mean, here. never, anywhere, your mother didn't think you as important as you think she thought you, nobody you ever met, including the stupid cunt you're attached to
mircea_popescu: wtf is some guy going to "convert" you into, me becoming blind ? holy shit the contortions of self-defensive imbecility.
mircea_popescu: it's not the case "mp thinks of people as furniture". mp has a lengthy history of ~permitting people to choose~. people choose, sometimes to be furniture. like you chose, systematically and repeatedly, to be furniture. as you are are still choosing, as above. it's not my fucking fault you ~aren't~ more than a sofa -- it's your elaborately constructed self-identity. stop mixing me into it, i didn't make you what you are,
mircea_popescu: it's not the case that "mp can't have partners". it's self-obvious that mp can, and does. YOU are NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE ONE. it is on you, you're the bad part of the apple.
mircea_popescu: and in other diana_coman lulz, asciilifeform now thinks somebody wants to "convert" him. hey you! you didn't fucking leave, ~you got kicked out~. for being a moron. part and parcel of the very substance of that being a moron is your utterly ridiculous relationship to reality. stop tryina fucking retcon the past into something more amenable to your howling idiocy.
mircea_popescu: but no, i don't expect you to do all that by yourself. ~TALK~ to people why the hell won't you ?!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-09 02:56:16 ave1: which was hard for the lam part, but seems impossible for the p part for now. Because (a) php is an interface to almost all libraries on the system and (b) the configure scripts constantly find gcc based libs on the system plus (c) it uses gnu clib specific tricks.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-09#1950332 << i very much would like a ~reduced~ php. the item suffers from classical millenialtards improveitis, just like everything else. it was fine in 1994, since then they've fucked into ridiculousness.
mircea_popescu: not that i wouldn't like a static lamp stack ; but why go on solitary missions with this kinda thing ? it just makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-09 02:51:44 ave1: remaining time has gone into workable genesis for gcc and trying to build a static lamp stack
mircea_popescu: i confess it's the most boggling aspect to me at the moment, whence this tendency to mentally compartimentalize the republic. if it's a shitty influence, why bother with it. and if it isn't a shitty influence, as it damn well isn't, then why not USE it for all it's worth.
mircea_popescu: odds are, there's more people here better informed about those matters than anywhere else you could have access to. why eschew all that ?
mircea_popescu: what i don't understand, though, is... why not talk about it ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-09#1950329 << ah, that's beautiful!
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/ode-to-computer << The Tar Pit -- Ode to Computer
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 10mn from jurov outbidding lobbes. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (150 hours 9 mins)
ave1: which was hard for the lam part, but seems impossible for the p part for now. Because (a) php is an interface to almost all libraries on the system and (b) the configure scripts constantly find gcc based libs on the system plus (c) it uses gnu clib specific tricks.
ave1: remaining time has gone into workable genesis for gcc and trying to build a static lamp stack
ave1: it's all consuming at the moment, but so far as I can see the future should be better halfway next year
ave1: I finally learning how to build a real system
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:40:32 mircea_popescu: an' that leaves of the human hands ave1 an' mocky thoroughly unaccounted for.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-matrix/ << Trilema -- The Matrix
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 2mn from lobbes outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (161 hours 44 mins)