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fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: are they locals or did some relocate there?
ThickAsThieves: i told em to come here for trial by fire
ThickAsThieves: they have a plan to stay afloat
ThickAsThieves: benkay, the software team that was making all the Neo stuff, got stranded, etc
the20year: Decent, started great, has slowed down. Could be due to market, could be due to dropping out on the CREI stuff
ThickAsThieves: how is the 3PO going the20tear?
Naphex: mircea_popescu: hitbtc says they got 7m usd, in investments
ThickAsThieves: told em to get into the channel
the20year: Which is only slightly worse than DPRK
ThickAsThieves: coincidentally i just emailed the software guys
the20year: Is there a way to ID with gribble if he isn't here?
assbot: Voicing the20year for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !up the20year
mircea_popescu: not that the fiat venture circuit is any different. we had a lol over this @con
mircea_popescu: the reason they lied is that the fuckwits on the forum like to invest if they perceive others have.
mircea_popescu: well if the secret is not really obivous : neobee claimed to have raised 5k btc. but they lied.
mircea_popescu: hm. if gribble is not here to have not seen gribble, is gribble really gone ?
ThickAsThieves: there's no way in hell that much coin was spent on MaidSafe
mircea_popescu: btw davout that blondie said she's got tickets to whatever concert tonight.
fluffypony: and then we spend all the money and don't do anything
fluffypony: basically everyone sends funds to a Bitcoin address, and then we convert that to SateliteCoinz that we give them
Naphex: what else is there to live for?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: maybe Amazon can just arrange for the CubeSat to be delivered into space by quadcopter
mircea_popescu: they'd recoup it all in no time because they'll get reddit gold and forum love.
benkay: well there's spacex, doing reusable launch vehicles
mircea_popescu: amazon should pay for it, because this is so innovative and forward thinking anyway
mircea_popescu: can't they just store it all in the cloud ?
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: must we type quietly?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: davout: they're probably thinking they can just send a Raspberry Pi and an SSD up and it'll work <<< they shouldn't have to spring for a ssd.
ThickAsThieves: even space cant escapt the walmart effect
ThickAsThieves: how come all the newer ones fail sooner?
BingoBoingo: benkay: So yeah, hangovers still a thing
mircea_popescu: im curious if they'll STILL pretend like "nobody is pointing and laughing at the naked emperor".
ThickAsThieves: The ".farm" TLD is now available.
ThickAsThieves: "Supreme Court says child porn victims can claim payment from anyone who has their images"
BingoBoingo: Turns out it actually was a mouse and I had managed to dispatch it by stepping on it
mircea_popescu: Naphex presumably he's not about to run amok on a field shooting mice
mircea_popescu: http://bit.ly/1lFMuuB << check out that shit. 3 > 2 > 1 > 7 > 8 > 9
fluffypony: early attempts were "just watch the blockchain", but altcoins implementations are so ridiculous
fluffypony: Naphex: yeah I know, I struggled with the dynamics for a while before settling on "just poll the daemon"
Naphex: fluffypony: i know, a lot of implos i reviewex had very bugged tracking
fluffypony: (listreceivedbyaddress shows a "running total", of sorts, so you have to know what the previous value was to spot that it's changed, but that's trivial"
fluffypony: and once an amount is available in an address for the minimum number of confs it's in the json
fluffypony: so we poll that
fluffypony: Naphex: getting back to what you were saying - listreceivedbyaddress <minconf=1> <includeempty=false>
fluffypony: thanks for all the input everyone
ThickAsThieves: and 1 paybee gets tabled to be revisited in a year or whatever
ThickAsThieves: well, in my opinion, i think the hardware business is the most sensible aspect, and then the mineotour stuff a nice thing to branch into
fluffypony: Naphex: sure, but we aren't watching transactions
Naphex: to 4 different addresses that you track awaiting payment
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: so then would it be better to 1. keep everything in but stagger the funding (eg. 100k now, another 100k when X milestones reached, etc.), or 2. take stuff out and then seek further funding later
Naphex: fluffypony: yeah but in my case you are receiving 4 payments in the same tx
ThickAsThieves: i'm saying the extra shit should be tabled til the other parts are fully grown
fluffypony: Naphex: doesn't matter, we're expecting 0.5 to address X, not to the "wallet" as a whole
Naphex: and send 0.1 to each
Naphex: fluffypony: what happens if i senf a tx to multiple addresses you track
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: appreciate the input, I'll work a bit more on splitting it out
fluffypony: Naphex: we watch the address for the amount requested; if it appears we know it's paid, if it doesn't (wrong amount, too late) we can't "contact the client" to let them know - they have to contact us and say "ohai, I screwed up"
ThickAsThieves: you ask for $350k when $100k would take you a long way if you focused
ThickAsThieves: what i see is a nice little hardware business, with ideas about what it could branch to
Naphex: fluffypony: a lot of the cases are around how you aquire and track tx data
mircea_popescu: cazalla you there ?
Naphex: fluffypony: plenty of room for explotation there. which will bug out and might cause your 0conf balance to go wildly negative
mircea_popescu: nao trying to pass it off as somehow relevant.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves more like, they developed bitundo
ThickAsThieves: like Luke-Jr barring sdice tx
ThickAsThieves: Hearn is either a devil, or has some kind of offense to people poking at bitcoin
fluffypony: doesn't have to be completely fresh
mircea_popescu: "let's solve problems that don't exist through breaking the bitcoin protocol"
mircea_popescu: who the fuck needs protection from bitundo ?
mircea_popescu: this latest hearn bullshit is even more laughable than gmaxwell's previous attack.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: because I've done most of the underlying work, it's just front-end crap that needs to be done
ThickAsThieves: than the mining software?
ThickAsThieves: you have less money allocated to building this Paybee thing
mrstickball: didn't know if there was something else to it
fluffypony: mrstickball: the frames etc.
fluffypony: separate the entities
fluffypony: ok so then I split it out
fluffypony: the exchange can be required to KYC us as the depositer
ThickAsThieves: i have to also love your trade idea
fluffypony: we aren't required (right now) to KYC to receive crypto
ThickAsThieves: i'm just exploring whether you are exposed to red tape
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: if a country banned inter-crypto trades that would affect the exchange primarily?
ThickAsThieves: by forcing an entity in their country to enact AML
jurov: ThickAsThieves: how would they enforce?
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes - get them to add it there and you can buy votes :-P
ThickAsThieves: what if some countries apply money laundering laws to inter-crypto trade?
benkay: the whole thing is low-margin madness.
ThickAsThieves: the whole Paybee thing is a deterrent
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I would write them a strongly worded letter!
ThickAsThieves: why isnt ATC on cryptsy then!>
fluffypony: this is between us and the exchange
fluffypony: Naphex: how? they don't have our privkey to double-spend
Naphex: what trades?
fluffypony: before they're confirmed, yes
ThickAsThieves: so you sell the coins before they are even deposited?
fluffypony: *back to 0
fluffypony: when the deposit confirms on the exchange it goes 0 ATC
fluffypony: when the trade happens our account on the exchange goes -100 ATC +0.5 BTC
fluffypony: if the send fails we go into negative that is caught up later