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mircea_popescu: for all the brilliant russians living in the 70s, the ussr was dumb as rocks.
mircea_popescu: nobody is denying a lot of smart people work for the nsa.
mircea_popescu: if spending money solved problems the phoenician empire'd still be a thing.
bounce: you can see how that works in, say, DES, where the NSA suggested stuff that turned out to be resistant to a type of attack not known publically at the time DES was finalised
bounce: actually, no. they employ a fsckton of mathematicians and they know everything that's in the open plus an unspecified amount we don't know about. best guess (last I heard) was that they're about five years ahead of the open community with the research
mircea_popescu: yo, bruce, wakeup call : the nsa is about as fucktartded as you are. srsly.
bounce: though the real question is, is that a /signed/ tag?
mircea_popescu: gotta love how schneier sticks these psy-ops little turds in everything he writes.
mircea_popescu: "Additionally, algorithms from the NSA are considered a sort of alien technology: they come from a superior race with no explanations."
bounce: you need to speka lisp-a to understand-a
mircea_popescu: benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/16_erc-wot-integration-such-gift.html can you explain this to me ?
bounce: so what is the resistance and what the impedance of... the local beach?
jurov: as soon as the current starts to change, parasite reactances appear
bounce: dissipating the power
bounce: fighting the current, technically
mircea_popescu: so do they fight the impedance or what ?
bounce: I'd buy into that.
bounce: you more or less missed a chance to snag a few subs for essentially free down in the crimea
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you this Arlyn Culwick fellow and trolling me ?
mircea_popescu: > typhoon class.
mircea_popescu: im looking for the world class submarines.
fluffypony: can we file that with the "world class mathematicians" involved in every cryptocurrency-related project?
fluffypony: “My cofounder turned down a job at Google to focus on our company.” Translation: He applied for an internship a while back and it fell through.
ozbot: Startups Anonymous: Things founders say to investors that are complete BS | PandoDaily
ozbot: The Patrick Harnett saga continues pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: likewise...I just find myself way too unproductive for the first ~4 hours after waking up if I'm hanging like a little bitch
BingoBoingo: I wouldn't be where I am today without the ability to swiftly dispatch a hangover
fluffypony: good to hear :)
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: The hangover's over
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: don't forget to hydrate
BingoBoingo: I wonder who all is getting tapped for S.MPIF
ozbot: The wunderbar S.MPIF pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mike_c: well, most of them are socks. but yes, very amusing.
fluffypony: mike_c: the comments are a cesspool of stupidity..."Wow! Finally coin with the future!"
asciilifeform: lol that's the one with me making faces, isn't it
gribble: Ca tot… sa tras tot sa fumat tot sa baut tot cum e peste tot ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/>; Clif High Wujo Feb.14. 2014 - Bitcoin, Mt Gox, bankers - Part 1 ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGEWvuhkEl8>; Video: Roundup of This Week's Bitcoin News 14th March 2014 ...: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: there's that on 15th
asciilifeform: manticore?! i must still be on the german submarine
BingoBoingo: It was pretty soon after I took herbi's ATC and BTC
asciilifeform: i'm pretty certain the buggers will come straight to my door, come the hour.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you happen to have a loglink to where i propositioned you to do atc investment for me ?
fluffypony: my favourite line in it: "This ensures lowest value of the coin, the exchange price will be different, most likely higher"
asciilifeform: satan preserve me from the journo interns.
jurov: asciilifeform: i think nobody knows yet about cardano outside of our little circle
asciilifeform: must be teh jetlag
asciilifeform: once the word goes out << i'ma confused one here.
mircea_popescu: actual last trade was X, but actual last trade AS REPORTED by assbot is y
davout: mike_c jurov don't panic, it's actually mpex that's all upside down, assbot is fine
mircea_popescu: i think it uses the average
assbot: Last trade for S.NSA on MPEX was at 0.00016371 BTC [+]
mike_c: assbot should be better at that than anyone.
mike_c: hm, that is not right.
jurov: once the word goes out
assbot: Last trade for S.NSA on MPEX was at 0.00016371 BTC [+]
jurov: bankay they're worth much more
davout: the issue is on the fiat side
Naphex: are the issue
davout: you could trade potatoes it wouldn't make anything different
benkay: how is that a bargain at all, jurov ?!
davout: Naphex: basically, the idea is that bitcoin isn't the issue,
Naphex: now don't know the specifics. but i will foward the european payment systems thingie, and see what answer comes
Naphex: davout: that question i've asked. and thats the answer I received. That by Romanian law everything required we have to operate.
davout: if the answer is something along the lines of "no, because bitcoin isn't regulated", then you should run awat
assbot: Last trade for S.NSA on MPEX was at 0.00016371 BTC [+]
jurov: that ask won't stay long there
davout: do a simple test, ask the legal person, or whatever lawyer you have the following question : "do we need some sort of financial license to do what we do?"
Naphex: mircea_popescu: i will tomorrow :P
davout: how big's your team ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Stepped on it with show. Also the mouse was actuall a mouse. Was skittering around the garage while I was trying to IRC and smoke cigarettes in it.
mircea_popescu: Naphex well so pass teh issue along.
Naphex: also i'm paid to code the stuff up. and make sure it doesn't get owned.
Naphex: davout: thats as far as i know lol
davout: Naphex: tbh i like that answer much better than "all is fine we don't need one" :-)
Naphex: sorry davout, can't answer much on that field.
davout: look up the european payments service directive
ozbot: btcXchange.ro - The first Bitcoin exchange in Romania
Naphex: what financial registration are you reffering to? does one exist?;o
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There's also a deadly form of porcine mega shits killing off the pork here
Naphex: davout: there is no _need_ for it atm.
Naphex: so thats sorted
davout: Naphex: your banking relationship may be great, but as soon as you handle someone else's fiat by opening them an account, allowing them to cash in and out, you need a financial registration
Naphex: and everyone can do whatever they do best
mircea_popescu: and only because the two idiot investors who had enough sense that they shouldn't have been invested in the first place insisted.
davout: didn't prevent them from being buttraped on multiple legal accts
mircea_popescu: Naphex that can't be a gc, it has to be a corp officer. he can hire whoever, but ultimately signs off on it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform get used to it, gc is what a cto of law is called.
asciilifeform: lol, my first thought was 'garbage collector'
mircea_popescu: the head of the legal dept.
mircea_popescu: Naphex who;s the gc ?
Naphex: davout: not sure how to answer that, or if a financiall registration is required. but all is operating completly legally
numerisTrade: gonna have to be patient, then
mircea_popescu: numerisTrade ima make a trilema post first.
davout: Naphex: i mean it's usually required from corps that handle fiat funds on behalf of third parties to be financially registered, which doesn't appear to be the case
numerisTrade: mircea_popescu, you will not share any details before having them posted there, will you? :)
assbot: Voicing thestringpuller for 30 minutes.
benkay: !up thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: BCB has > 1024 total holy shit.
asciilifeform: 'it's not the height of the tower, but the amount of power.'
kakobrekla: one day imma gonna link you to taht -pr post that sez its not all in the sum
mircea_popescu: shit look at that.