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benkay: Once the number of mimics is sufficiently high, their valueless enterprises become too conspicuous and they no longer pass off as legitimate investments.
mircea_popescu: ow them to garner funds from the duped investors. "
mircea_popescu: "In an expansion investors are constantly looking for better places to invest their capital, while entrepreneurs are always overconfident, hoping to get capital to fund their restless ambition. Sometimes, the investors (dupes) think a certain set of key characteristics are sufficient statistics of a quality investment because historically they were. Mimic entrepreneurs seize upon these key characteristics that will all
mike_c: fuck, there goes my evening.
mircea_popescu: now... explain to me again how teh nsa is 5 years ahead of my penis.
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: because well.... they can't compete, because they solve a problem rather than grooming it with dysfunctional non-solutions, and so have nothing to kick back.
mircea_popescu: as a result, all the proper urinals are nao destroyed.
mircea_popescu: and got kickback-based contracts to "supply" the city.
mircea_popescu: dumbass firm started importing the 2mc bullshits, with chemical "processing"
mircea_popescu: romania had, in all cities, proper urinals built all over town. the whole shebang, with running water.
mircea_popescu: here's the story of the blessings of lobbyism
mircea_popescu: was that the abandoned urinal ?
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
asciilifeform: let them control carbon.
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
asciilifeform: re: Faioli << recommended to all aficionados of pet manticores.
BingoBoingo: Amazing how in the US Steam plants are generally just a University thing and yet every on campus steam plant I've seen has been as boring as shit.
asciilifeform: hieronymous bosch apparently lives there.
asciilifeform: earlier link was steam plant in Timis.
BingoBoingo: "From 1985 to 1989 Williamson worked at Nicolet Instruments in Madison, Wisconsin where he was the primary author on two digital hearing aid patents."
asciilifeform: (or maybe not. but i was damn sure that was in there)
asciilifeform: 'the man who loved the faioli' !
mircea_popescu: Humanity was almost extinguished, their spirits becoming part of the background radiation that blanketed the earth.
mike_c: hm, there has got to be an arbitrage loop on btc/usd/human souls
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
BingoBoingo: Imma have to guess the S.MPIF markets are BTC/USD, BTC/Typhoon submarines, BTC/Uranium, and BTC/Human Souls
mircea_popescu: 2.) fluffypony 1247 3.) assbot 1211 << africans and their long peens.
mircea_popescu: this is the highest linecount since forever
kakobrekla: i have two low-mid series pcb manufacturers in 5km radius
BingoBoingo: Much of the best food is wildlife
asciilifeform: or i'd have to etch boards again, like when student.
asciilifeform: glad the chicoms happily take bezollars. (for now.)
asciilifeform: i lost interest in the project >1yr ago, when i realized that i won't be selling so much as 1 btc while i live here.
asciilifeform: it was, at one point (laugh, sure) intended to play on... gox.
asciilifeform: never bothered to make it airworthy, though, so it's a boring tale.
asciilifeform: shame that arbitrobots appear to be a dead field. the modus operandi of mine, for instance, was to root out and autorape other bots.
mircea_popescu is known for turning people into robots.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: no shame in this. atm i'm doing things chinese robogirls won't do
mircea_popescu: no, there's no real estate at all.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I prefer meat bot to describe my role in this
mircea_popescu: no robots. unlike the alex chick i'm an ACTUAL luddite. i use people.
asciilifeform: smpif sounds neat but too big for me puny brain.
mircea_popescu: i'll bet you you won't be able to guess all 4.
BingoBoingo: I'm kind of curious what other markets S.MPIF is going to venture into
mircea_popescu: and trading will open after anyway
mircea_popescu: jurov can wait, the contract'll be up at a sane time, but in a few days.
jurov: soooo... should i stay up to add S.MPIF to coinbr or it can wait?
gribble: You rated user mike_c on Tue Mar 25 20:15:55 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: blogger, dev.
mircea_popescu: im known for my tough wagers and an almost fanatical devotion to the poke.
mike_c: i hate to turn down action, but feels like a tough wager. there are a lot of people i don't know.
mircea_popescu: you get a list as long as you wish, provided you publish it by tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: mike_c actually i'll bet you a certain pizza you won't be able to guess all 4.
asciilifeform: the power to make the impossible quite possible << Führerprinzip, the elixir of shit getting done.
mircea_popescu: prolly tomorrow, actually.
mircea_popescu: right. what's "impossible" is just admitting mp has the power to make the impossible quite possible.
asciilifeform: this is possible in fiat just fine << various 'impossibles' are quite possible when they must.
asciilifeform: phun phact. cryptoag still exists! and used by diplomats, etc. how to explain? only theory i can think of is that folks deliberately buy into the crapola - as a gesture of doggy submission to usa
mircea_popescu: apparently this is possible in fiat just fine. whodda thunk it.
mircea_popescu: because...well... they use the mpex shareholding model.
gribble: Crypto AG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG>; Schneier on Security: NSA Backdoors in Crypto AG Ciphering ...: <https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/nsa_backdoors_i.html>; Crypto AG: <http://www.crypto.ch/>
asciilifeform: the americans really fucked themselves. 'why bother being strong, let's make everyone weak.' they somehow kept most of the planet using rotor (!) crypto machines through the '70s!
mircea_popescu: so on the very good news front, i've already lined up 4 managers for s.mpif, whole shebang nominally worth a little north of 170 btc atm.
asciilifeform: more seriously, virtually nothing re: cryptology from the era preceding modern computing is worth terribly much.
asciilifeform: (musings on the 'smart nsa' hypothesis, i know)
ozbot: Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name.
asciilifeform: (robert sheckley's 'store of the worlds' - www.e-reading.ws/txt.php/1000018/Sheckley_-_The_Store_Of_The_Worlds.txt)
asciilifeform: 'Had it been a dream? It was still worth it! ... Now he had to think about his own survival. With the aid of his wrist geiger he found a deactivated lane through the rubble. He’d better get back to the shelter before dark, before the rats came out. If he didn’t hurry he’d miss the evening potato ration.'
asciilifeform: nein, i'm still trying to wake up from me beautiful dreamz.
mircea_popescu: for the love of the error god ;/
bounce: lopsided isn't really the word. somehow a better word eludes me for the moment.
mircea_popescu: what i meant was strictly this, that your particular response matched what i may have accepted as proof that you indeed may know how you read it.
bounce: I don't think all communication is quite that lopsided, to be honest.
bounce: doing a little survey among cryptographers of name with how and at what size they assess the NSA's knowledge advandage, if any, might be interesting. doing it every couple years maybe even moreso.
mircea_popescu: i believe that's really the model for all communication.
mircea_popescu: (trivial to observe when it noticed you're human because of the very distinctive "error pls to start over" tone"
mircea_popescu: so, as kids, one party game was to whistle into an old, low baud modem. they were slow enough that it was still sort-of feasible. the game was, who gets the modem going for longer thinking it's got a sane modem on the other end
mircea_popescu: anyway, re your "you're reaching" comment, i told a story at teh conference that should prolly be on the record.
mircea_popescu: that's the trick with "being insulted" : it affords plausible deniability to they who don't want to have the truth extracted.
bounce: and you care about that, how? o_O?
bounce: c'mon, cook up a nice 20 questions to finnagle the truth out of oracle schneier
mircea_popescu: well that's as far as it can possibly go huh
bounce: I think you're reaching with that line of reasoning. I know how I read it and I disagree with how you read it. I will allow that a-priori notions on either side (or both) might have something to do with the interpretation.
bounce: wouldn't surprise me if the NSA has everyone with a little crypto knowledge on watchlists just to see the privately-circulating papers
mircea_popescu: now without offense, let me just propose to you as a theory that it's possible you'd not know how you read it. in the same sense advertising works.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i know what he's pretending he's trying to say, but that ain't at all what he;s saying. what he's saying is "resistence is futile", that's the message, and it's a ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: this is not at all how teh community works.
mircea_popescu: because you imagine perfect knowledge ("everyone publishes everything they know and everyone reads it all") to get your result
mircea_popescu: <bounce> still, they know what we know plus a bunch << this is strictly false.
fluffypony: bed time, bye
bounce: still, they know what we know plus a bunch we don't know much about. we don't know how big it is, we don't know what it does. for that reason you have to be careful with their "gifts". that's the point he's making.
Apocalyptic: a possible explanation may be that cryptography as a field wasn't that broad in academia back then
mircea_popescu: and while we know what they don't know, they don't know what we know.
mircea_popescu: and we wiped their heartbleed.
mircea_popescu: as the things stand right now, they never had an internal bitcoin,
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic it was perhaps accurate in the 90s.
Apocalyptic: i don't believe it's the case nowadays
Apocalyptic: "best guess (last I heard) was that they're about five years ahead of the open community with the research" that may have been accurate a few years ago
mircea_popescu: it's not clear why this reclassification'd be useful to your position.
bounce: yeah, but we're not talking NSA as a whole. we're talking the stuff that comes out of there in the form of algorithms