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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 3.51308395 BTC
to 13`595 shares, 25841 satoshi per share
ozbot: Updated: A debit card for bitcoin: Xapo could solve
the payment problem with help from banks —
fluffypony: kakobrekla:
the GigaOm article is better because it contains an embarrassing update
kakobrekla: the log pft. ill remove it just so i dont have
to read it.
France-bitcoin: thx davout, still
taking care of
the kids and
the gribble
thing is not finished yet...
davout: i'm off, stomachs don't just fill
themselves
davout: but in
theory
there's nothing
that prevents visa from doing it
davout: fluffypony:
the psp we were working with was working with mastercard, custom cards are mostly mastercard's
thing, not really visa's
davout: so, as soon as
they actually hear about it
they'll fuck
the deal up
bounce: except
they might at
the drop of a hat decide
that
they don't like where some of
their users send
their money and stop doing it
davout: fluffypony: mastercard opposed bitinstant's card, and
they also opposed ours when we wanted
to issue one in partnership with aqoba
fluffypony: and
that
their auth systems on
the back-end don't even have
to be actual currency
fluffypony: and
they said
that in general MC and VISA don't care what
they issue
fluffypony: davout: I met with one of
the banks here last year August-ish about it
davout: given
that mastercard is pretty anti-bitcoin
France-bitcoin: well i did need
to connect here (or another chan on
the list...)
then do it privately which is what i'm
talking about
fluffypony: lol customers...ticket just got escalated
to me: "I run
the 8th largest magazine in
the world" - maybe I should reply and ask
them what
they're doing buying GPU mining frames
bounce: isn't
that what #gribble is for?
davout: France-bitcoin: publicly might be better if you're debugging gribble and if it's not
too noisy :D
France-bitcoin: now i just got
to debug some strange stuff with gribble privately and I will leave you alone
nanotube: France-bitcoin:
that's cool. we should all move
there,
then. :)
mircea_popescu: cause while scammers usually id in pm,
they still gotta be in chan
France-bitcoin: well
the welcoming party here is nice :) I should
think about
that yeah :)
mircea_popescu: davout for one,
there's peeps
trying
to scamhunt,
they gotta idle in all chans
that allow authing
nanotube: davout: i just added #bitcoin-fr
to auth list, by bad_duck's request. so...
there.
davout: France-bitcoin: if you're doing business you should probably hang around
the "authable" chans anyway
davout: bounce: negligible, most of
the hassle is
the broken window and
the
time lost with
the police
mircea_popescu: cause nanotube wanted
to keep some sort of
tabs on what chans you can auth from, which is sensible.
davout: also
that my apartment got broken into
this afternoon, probably some french people...
davout: France-bitcoin: gribble is on #bitcoin-fr what are you
talking about
davout: yea, i've been
talking for a couple of minutes before realizing i didn't voice myself ><
assbot: Voice for VictorM extended
to 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: lol
they actually managed
to get charles de gaulle seaworthy ?
fluffypony: "On international
tests, American children rank 25th in math and 21st in science, despite
the push for greater accountability
through No Child Left Behind. What’s more, although America is falling behind in math, our kids are first in confidence. American students get
terrible math scores compared
to
their international peers, but
they
think
they’re great in math—in fact,
they have more confidence in
their math skills
than students from
fluffypony: pankkake: surely
the French would never allow it!
punkman: mircea_popescu:
they plan
to add
Tor but still, I don't
think it's prudent
to 0mq with random nodes
pankkake: France might end up with more
tourists
than French
fluffypony: bounce:
too many Frenchman in France, maybe
that's his problem :-P
mircea_popescu: punkman for
the love of meh. why not just rebundle
tor.
punkman: The DarkMarket daemon << is
this just a rebranded
tor bundle
thing ? << no it looks like a piece of shit implemented on
top of 0mq, which didn't even do security for
the first few major versions
bounce: why such hate? france AND bitcoin. what's not
to love?
mircea_popescu: The DarkMarket daemon << is
this just a rebranded
tor bundle
thing ?
HeySteve: ah wait my mistake,
they do say
they have a rep system
HeySteve: ThickAsThieves, you watched
their presentation in Canada?
HeySteve: ThickAsThieves,
they haven't programmed
that bit yet but
they seem
to expect someone will soon...
fluffypony: pankkake: LOL - I had no idea, no wonder
their product was so shitty
HeySteve: ThickAsThieves: "At
the moment, DarkMarket displays only a bare IP address for every user..."
HeySteve: it's all very well
to dodge
the federales, but not if it will likely land you in
the clutches of scammers
HeySteve: verifiable and community-rated identities across
these markets is key
to improving
trade
HeySteve: bitwasp
too, where one can have ephemeral markets
that come and go like a stream of soap bubble worlds
HeySteve: I see a reputation system as pretty critical
to
the success of something like dark markets
fluffypony: and
then you used
to be able
to buy overpriced BTC from
thebitcoincard.co.uk and
they'd load it on your card in fiat
fluffypony: and you have
to wade
through a French website
to activate it
ozbot: First prepaid card
to exchange Bitcoins
fluffypony: I actually have a BTC debit card from
the now defunct
thebitcoincard.co.uk
bounce: zeromq is a p2p
thing now?
ozbot: Inside
the ‘DarkMarket’ Prototype, a Silk Road
the FBI Can Never Seize |
Threat Level | WIRED
ThickAsThieves: A user downloads
the DarkMarket software, which runs as a daemon in
the background of
the user’s operating system, allowing
them
to connect
to
the DarkMarket network
through any browser.
The DarkMarket daemon incorporates a library of commands for peer-to-peer networking known as ZeroMQ, which allows
the user’s PC
to become a node in a distributed network where every user can
bounce: didn't germany already outlaw
the likes of nmap?
ThickAsThieves: that makes
them like
the 11th co
to claim a btc credit card
bounce: huh,
there's actually a(t least one) shipyard in cuba
mircea_popescu: " but only
that it hopes
to have one
through a partner bank"
fluffypony: I don't have a submarine, but I hope
to have one
through a military contractor...I can haz press coverage nao?
fluffypony: "This story was updated at 9:52am PT
to reflect
the fact
that Xapo does not have a formal relationship with MasterCard, but only
that it hopes
to have one
through a partner bank.
This is contrary
to earlier claims made by Xapo
to Gigaom both in person and in writing
that Xapo would issue a MasterCard-branded debit card. A MasterCard representative confirmed
that it has no relationship with Xapo."
fluffypony: turtle approval is at an all
time high
Naphex: BingoBoingo: hey, if you have any suggestions, annoiances or any feedback regarding usage of btcxchange, shoot any
time. :D
moiety: jesus, pretty violent hiccups
too!
moiety: i
think allcaps looks better
BingoBoingo: If all caps is a must it will
take longe rthough
moiety: aw i doubt i have any caps in
the house
to recreate
that last one, damnit
moiety: i wonder how long 1QUEEFS would
take
to generate....
moiety: bahahaha "surprisingly comfortable
too"
mircea_popescu: "i have
the special QueefCaptu underwears! only 19'95 at selected retailers"
Naphex: nice move, doable. mastercard might have a field day
though :D
Naphex: the roughly, and average chitchat, is if bitcoin values moves, you might have less
then
that 10% of
the value on
the card. until it readjusts
Naphex: i
think
thats mostly it:o
Naphex: so.. customer stores btc, credit 10% of btc value
to corporate issued mastercard, use spends it. hold
the btc
moiety: would probably get further with
that lil dude
than most customer services people mircea_popescu
Naphex: "Casares explained
that Xapo added
the product due
to demand from current customers who have wanted a way
to spend
the roughly 10% of
their funds (on average)
they keep in
the company’s hot wallets.
The remainder is stored securely in cold storage."