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fluffypony: "We don't have any inside information that is not made public."
fluffypony: they back the fuck up completely
ThickAsThieves: well the forum notoriously wants news when there is none
fluffypony: how could they do that without talking to them?
fluffypony: Havelock say "We do hold the Bitcoins raised during their offering in escrow and only distribute those funds as needed."
fluffypony: so then the question is - why are MintSpare so quiet but Havelock claim to be speaking to them
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ThickAsThieves: so HL is saying they havent disappeared?
fluffypony: then Havelock say "We have been working with Mintspare closely during the past few months and they have a bright future ahead of them. They should and will start to post and respond to requests on this forum."
ThickAsThieves: and saw nothing even discussing trades
ThickAsThieves: <+fluffypony> so Havelock admitted to insider trading, of a sort? /// where?
JorgePasada: with the WoT
fluffypony: nm, that's me
fluffypony: so Havelock admitted to insider trading, of a sort?
moiety: perhaps didnt think this through
moiety: might be a slightly wrong route to go, taking away from the manuls and all
mike_c: the worst part of dicks or gtfo is that the channel would be flooded with pics immediately..
ThickAsThieves: <+moiety> in #manul-assets it'll be dicks or gtfo btw guys ;P /// lol, best quote of the day
fluffypony: "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo
benkay: "In the end, the Christian Democrats failed to secure a player and the Feminist Initiative player had to decline due to other commitments."
moiety: i thought their preferred speak just consisted of fuck off bitch
fluffypony: moiety: "niggaz" is the preferred colloquialism to a manul
moiety: also, is 'guise' safe to use i wonder or are we all supposed to be peeps now
benkay: try le tweets.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell princessnell hey, what do you know of pando daily ?
mircea_popescu: basically this guy would like to be here, but he doesn't know that here exists, or how to get here. which, imo, speak to structural deffect. if he weren't a broken being he wouldn't have the problem.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the notion that andreessen is a source or has anything to say about bitcoin is laughable, but it's also so very cute
mircea_popescu: so let them fail, miserably and humiliatingly, and from that failure learn how little shit they got for brains.
benkay: twitter users can't think in units of length greater than 140 characters, and they labor over each character. i don't want to suggest we value qlty over qnty but ffs i don't think these people can engage in real time chat style webversations.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete "Bitcoin is infused with several of Nietzsche’s philosophies." that's broken. concepts ? ideas ?
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe it jolts the dude out of his intellectual complacency and he actually gets informed about btc.
mircea_popescu: yeah, why do something useful, that's like hard. better to yak at people about what words they use.
moiety: mircea_popescu: the whole idea we can't use 'guys'. i get this kind of crap all the time. also when i use 'dude'. i get feminazis giving me into trouble and i am female myself.
JorgePasada: Medium.com that is
JorgePasada: Yeah, not sure what their model is for monetizing that
bitcoinpete: anyhoo, yoga time. cheers!
mircea_popescu: o medium.com thing. mk.
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: haha ya, that was a decent one
bitcoinpete: mod6 thanks!
mircea_popescu: <benkay> These operations are run by what you could consider as volunteers << can't tell if stupid or being ironic << it's idiotic.
FabianB: mircea_popescu: that was my guess after seeing 19:27 <+thestringpuller> !jd MPIF
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: this is among my favourite of the things you've said - "There’s a baby, its bathwater, and Mastercoin. Let’s just throw out the latter two."
mod6: The Will to Power was put together by his sister after his death. Mainly a collection of papers and personal notes. It's good though.
mod6: The Twilight of the Idols, Thus Spoke Zarathustra and The Antichrist are all good. I read now and then from The Will to Power.
bitcoinpete: moiety: i suppose, though i've seen both
mod6: any specific title?
bitcoinpete: i'd never really read nietzsche but he's on the fuckin money as far as -assets and bitcoin go
bitcoinpete: was fiddling with titles and urls
benkay: ah but the third one
TomServo: Maybe you'll get lucky and get sold to Charter?
HeySteve: you can run bitcoin over tor
benkay: there's already a connection between two machines sending btc protocol messages back and forth
JorgePasada: It's a network, there has to be points of entry
benkay: who d'you think made the protocol changes that broadcast IP addresses with every network message?
benkay: "It’s almost a mistake that tracking today is possible." << not an alert human.
JorgePasada: but in the middle it's like he's arguing past andreessen
JorgePasada: Eh, it's just frustrating because I've talked with him about the bitty coin extensively, and he gets it, and the conclusion isn't bad at all
benkay: let's try something from princessnell: http://theumlaut.com/2014/04/29/scenes-from-a-dying-imperial-city-the-export-import-bank/
benkay: sorry JorgePasada i'm not seeing much worth putting through my jelly computer in that medium piece
benkay: "It also glosses over theft. Because Bitcoin relies entirely on the private retention of secrets (private keys that prove ownership of given Bitcoins), a stolen Bitcoin is only traceable within the system to a certain extent, and thefts of millions and tens of millions of dollars have already occurred. Because committed transactions are irreversible, stolen Bitcoins are valuable and nearly laundered." << this is bananas.
JorgePasada: specifically in some cases, yeah it's hard when I have 6 girls to go out with on one friday night, maybe too many options
JorgePasada: Increasing optionality, especially when talking about markets in the aggregate, is always good
JorgePasada: and now you have two
JorgePasada: It's 100% guaranteed to be a net value add to the system as an aggregate
JorgePasada: 'and the cost and nature of that can’t be determined.'
JorgePasada: more accurately the very last part
JorgePasada: Bitcoin doesn’t eliminate fraudulent transactions; it only eliminates counterfeit payments. This can, of course, save many tens or hundreds of billions of dollars a year globally and translate to more efficiency in commerce. But removing the intermediary also removes recourse outside of courts, and the cost and nature of that can’t be determined.
JorgePasada: paragraph after that
benkay: These operations are run by what you could consider as volunteers << can't tell if stupid or being ironic
JorgePasada: Because a Bitcoin transaction can’t be reversed, it means that the party transferring value has no recourse within the Bitcoin system to reverse or dispute a transaction. Thus, someone who wants their money back has to go to court, and companies that accept Bitcoin as payment aren’t above the law. This will move chargebacks from intermediary mediated settlements to small-claims court and higher civil courts
moiety: i need this in my life http://9gag.com/gag/aLKV4Qv
JorgePasada: So I'm reading this article a friend wrote
JorgePasada: I'm happy, they're happy
JorgePasada: where I think people don't understand the market
JorgePasada: But yeah I was more just getting at taking the other side of willing transactions
JorgePasada: brings an interesting thought
benkay: his identity (in the sense of a thing that persists past each scam) is only relevant to other scammers. the con man must burn his identity for each con.
benkay: the only identity a con man can sustain is with other thieves.
benkay: tends to be at odds with the gentleman's desire to cultivate an identity, though.
JorgePasada: Wait a minute, all of these people are way way less knowledgable about this stuff than I am, they're just more confident
JorgePasada: benkay: I think that's the realization I had when I was like 24 or so
benkay: running the confidence game can be very lucrative!
JorgePasada: benkay: Step two is still all question marks... so in theory a lot
Apocalyptic: <benkay> you want to know where i put my skin? // nortly, that's your business, just wanted to know what you meant by that
JorgePasada: benkay: I like to be in the 'skinning other people who have no game' game. Good biz.
moiety: jesus christ this shit annoys me http://trilema.com/2014/and-now-for-part-2-of-our-smash-hit-hey-stupid-women-we-need-to-talk-smart-women-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-with-you-anymore/
benkay: you want to know where i put my skin?
benkay: well don't do only one thing
JorgePasada: Also, just bought my ticket to the amsterdam
JorgePasada: I really gotta get on this WoT thing
JorgePasada: I think the problem is when that's the ONLY way you interact with people.
JorgePasada: benkay: Yeah, I mean we need more of that for sure. But hell, a lot of my very close friends I only interact with online
benkay: the kind comprised of adults that'd socialize budding humans not poorly.
benkay: mind you, JorgePasada, i'm talking about a real community of humans who get together and derp on a patch of dirt for potatoes or tomatoes during the day and sing and drink at night
moiety: ah ty
moiety: mircea_popescu: what does 'switch' mean? re the piecharts
benkay: JorgePasada: community has nothing to do with content
benkay: don't explain things to them, that's teaching and takes time. just glare and kill their ego with your disapproval.
mircea_popescu: either that or we're just getting lazier/stupider/etc
JorgePasada: although, that being said, actually curating a good community and good content