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chetty: danielpbarron, that I think is the point - trust has degrees, you should be aware of them
mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure (5/10) that i know enough of the guy to have an opinion, and that opinion is he should be trustworthy.
gribble: You rated user jurov on Mon Apr 21 06:09:46 2014, with a rating of 5, and supplied these additional notes: Years of promises kept..
chetty: danielpbarron, do you trust yourself to never eat that piece of chocolate cake you know you shouldn't have?
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu: do you know which GPG key he uses to place orders on MPEx?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i meant the guy has been operating a mpex broker for about two years now, it never ran into any difficulty, and met him twice in person
fluffypony: danielpbarron: I think part of the WoT is extrapolation of information upon which a conclusion can be drawn, and sometimes that information needs to be expanded by talking to the rater
mircea_popescu: you're not at liberty to arbitrarily decide what someone else's rating means.
mircea_popescu: you can find out what it means by asking the rater what they meant.
danielpbarron: doesn't this necessarily mean that MPEx knows the user's credentials, and could disable them if it turned out to be a scam?
mircea_popescu: it's never safe to trust.
danielpbarron: for example: a user is in the WoT, and has a rating of 3 or more given by mircea_popescu, describing him as an operator of a specific pass-through; is it safe to trust this user on that information alone?
mircea_popescu: well nobody forces anyone to not know / not think / etc
chetty: no way around the basics, due diligence and trust
kakobrekla: yeah but you can go to buttfucker and post a passthrough as evedence present a malfucked pgp signature which none of the 'investors' know how to check anyway and thats that
mircea_popescu: well it's entirely up to you.
benkay: pt ops should be considered bad actors if they refuse to provide those, then. no amount of 'gotta preserve the secrecy of my keys with mpex' allowed.
danielpbarron: I don't need to know, but i'm confident MPEx could figure that one out
benkay: kinda the point of mpex - put down 30B, get access no questions asked.
benkay: you gotta know the keyid he's using, non?
benkay: but mircea_popescu wouldja revoke the keys?
mircea_popescu: in general you'd expect the rotten pt operator to withdraw everything from mpex before he actually runs.
benkay: identity operating the mpex keys will be toast for sure.
danielpbarron: is it safe to assume that a user operating a pass-through for MPEx has a lot to lose if he were to decide to run with the money? To clarify, is it MPEx's official policy to publically shame and/or revoke access for such a user?
mircea_popescu: "invest with the twinkletoss brothers! there's a spare included!"
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ahaha only now i get the joke. lmao.
benkay: ayeah, trying to find it.
mircea_popescu: that was after the revolution, early 90s
mircea_popescu: benkay a, was a more complex discussion, see the whole log.
benkay: mircea_popescu: your comment was along the lines of 'romania gave a bunch of money to basically anyone who showed up claiming to be a businessman and a bunch of guys blew it in advertising'
fluffypony: "Apple does keep an older version of OpenSSL around that isn't vulnerable to the exploit. Safely chained to a wall. In the dungeon. It prods it with sticks now and again to make sure it's still breathing."
mircea_popescu: fluffypony good reason to hate it, incidentally.
Framedragger: their twitter images are also symmetrical
fluffypony: [20:16:16] mircea_popescu: openssl is not in ios ?! <- they implement Open Group's CDSA/CSSM, they hate OpenSSL because it doesn't maintain a stable API between versions
benkay: hey mircea_popescu on an entirely different topic what was this situation where romania just gave oodles of cash away to 'businessmen' once upon a time? sounds like quite the story.
Framedragger: at least they have a sense of humour (maybe)
mircea_popescu: i have no idea who those are.
Framedragger: hah, check out their bios on http://winkdex.com/#/about
benkay: bitcoincharts.org nonsense as well then?
benkay: well is somewhere in between the bloomberg quote and ;;ticker, no?
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: benkay what's useful about that exactly ?
mircea_popescu: that goes to you.
benkay: is it my eyes or are the winklevii doing something useful? http://winkdex.com/#/
Framedragger: yeah, pretty much that
benkay: pathetic logs this morning
benkay: <Framedragger> i've to admit, even though this chan is full of pompastic arrogant fucks, the content is pretty sweet << pompastic you say? quite the portmanteau.
mircea_popescu: Charles Gasparino @CGasparino · 1h never heard @felixsalmon or @cafreeland bemoan working class kids priced outta williamsburg but God forbid it happens to hipsters in SF
mircea_popescu: "What’s “kokobakukan”?! “kokobakukan”is the space that there are interesting things for you."
kakobrekla: what, the thing is amazing.
benkay: rolling openssl into the project
mircea_popescu: that they knew you knew the moment they didn't say anything.
mircea_popescu: bounce the chinese knew.
mircea_popescu: how does your client know this.
benkay: ios is already stripped down macos, troll
bounce: generating 4kbit keys takes over a minute? try validating a 1kbit signature on a z80 (certain ti calculators with signed firmware)
benkay: does have to do with known turds
benkay: i'll tell after two
benkay: (they're dangerously savvy and like to help make decisions).
benkay: well that's a given, bounce no points
benkay: guess what the client's considering
benkay: apple's api's are more than happy to give you the raw bytes of the private key, but it seems they then forgot to build out the calls to import that key back into their play-pi.
bounce: so... the chinese knew (or suspected) about the crimea thing beforehand? and that nevada thing, does that mean the poor farmer gets his cattle back now?
benkay: client wants to do a thing with asymmetric crypto on the major mobile platforms, my guys are handling the ios side. apple provides a handy dandy set of apis for generating keys (your second 4096 bit key on a bleeding edge iphone will take over a minute to gather 'adequate' 'entropy', btw).
benkay: stories from the loltron
bitcoinpete: http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-fxbtc-to-close-citing-central-bank-pressure/ <<another one bites the dust
bitcoinpete: "FXBTC said that long-term financial losses stemming from what it termed a “blockade” by the PBOC resulted in the management team deciding to end the service."
ozbot: Pompatic - definition of Pompatic by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
Framedragger: i guess. i just made a literal mapping from own tongue onto english. but english failed on me :( so, "pompous"
Framedragger: i choose the "to shake a pompom vigorously" interpretation
mircea_popescu: ;;google where is vragnaroda to teach this guy grammer.
Framedragger: long time
mircea_popescu: hello to you too Framedragger
Framedragger: i've to admit, even though this chan is full of pompastic arrogant fucks, the content is pretty sweet
mircea_popescu: he didn't even have a ticket
bitcoinpete: or participating in the events."
bitcoinpete: "Sacha Baron Cohen attended The 84th Annual Academy Awards (2012) in character and full costume as Aladeen, accompanied by his "virgin guards". While giving an interview on the red carpet to an unsuspecting Ryan Seacrest he brandished an urn he claimed to contain the remains of deceased North Korean dictator Jong-il Kim. Cohen then spilled the ashes all over Seacrest's tuxedo. As a result, Cohen was banned from entering the auditori
bitcoinpete: my body double's latest movie: the dictator
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Reference to some Jew movie
mircea_popescu: wtf is this aladeen mangosteen
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: DIdn't test for that. Instead I was diagnosed with aladeen.
mircea_popescu: did you hit on the nurses or did they hit on you
BingoBoingo: whelp, just got back from the hospital
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell punkman now i wanna catch up on some wu tang clan!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.64309480 BTC to 8`410 shares, 31428 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: "The P/E implied value per share is thus 0 BTC." unzips, depacks and deflates as "the value of each share calculated on the basis of the P/E of this company so far would be 0"
artifexd: Need more proof that mircea_popescu is the Chuck Norris of finance? Apparently he can divide by zero. Ref: http://trilema.com/2014/smg-april-2014-statement/
ThickAsThieves: well i'm still gonna treat you normal, your head is big enough
mircea_popescu: it's the web you know ?
mircea_popescu: i just eat them
ozbot: Awstats and stuff pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ThickAsThieves: but i dont want stalkers and trolls
ThickAsThieves: i could probably add a hundred or so if i plugged it to the forum
ThickAsThieves: my blog has 56 unique users, is that good?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves understand tho : this is moderated as to venue, not as to content.
ThickAsThieves: i have the biggest and most hits in the paraverse
ThickAsThieves: i thought you supported no-moderation advertising?!
mircea_popescu: what, if bin laden becomes a tritium level member they're going to support bombing tall ny buildings ?
ThickAsThieves: pay to play
ThickAsThieves: surely they are plutonium level members