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ThickAsThieves: it's very difficult
to
tell how much more money could be put back into users' hands
though
ThickAsThieves: making investors whole is indeed unlikely, but it's also impossible if
they liquidate
jurov: there is *no way*
to make investors whole again
bitcoingirl: <+ThickAsThieves> right,
that's
the argument
ThickAsThieves: i
think, while it seems silly, Gox probably does have some brand equity
pankkake: the question is what is
there
to save
bitcoingirl: or doesn't any know
the status of
the class action law suits?
bitcoingirl: Hi doesn't anyone have any
thoughts on
the SaveGox campaign?
fluffypony: someone should write an article loudly claiming Apple is buying Ripple and
they'll be calling it Rapple
ThickAsThieves: Just like data wants
to be free, money wants
to move like data. Ripple is looking more and more like
the rails on which
that money will move."
ThickAsThieves: " Smart money, however, is on
the fact
that
today’s Fidor announcement will be
the first domino in a long chain of such adoptions.
davout: i really am curious
to see how
that will actually work
davout: i guess if
that's what you define as an "altcoin"
then we are in agreement
davout: pankkake: well
then it's just some IOU for nothing, not really an altcoin in
the sense
that it doesn't work in
the same ways cryptos do
pankkake: davout:
the
trick is
to create a currency and not do anything with it
davout: Apocalyptic:
that fits
the definition of a stamp
davout: pankkake: "you can also create other altcoins in ripple <<< i don't
think so or i misunderstand sthg
Apocalyptic: it may look like
they want
to achieve
the same
things, but
they don't
Apocalyptic: ThickAsThieves, <ThickAsThieves> bitcoin works for
the same purpose // I argue
the purpose is clearly different
Apocalyptic: and
then
the rest of
tx will be realised
through debt
transmission
Apocalyptic: pankkake,
the
thing is XRP is bound
to be depleted
pankkake: except it's closer
to Bernankoin's cash
than
to Bitcoin's cash
Apocalyptic: <ThickAsThieves> bitcoin works for
the same purposes and it isn't owned by a company
ThickAsThieves: i'm not stating it as a competitor
to bitcoin, so much as
the reverse
davout: it's
the "anywhere in
the world" part
that's misleading,
that's not actually
true,
the cash EUR never leaves fidor
Apocalyptic: <davout> it's just in
the continuation of debt money, it's not really a competitor
to bitcoin in any way <<
this
ThickAsThieves: “Ripple enables us
to securely and instantly send money anywhere in
the world at no additional cost and
through
the same customer facing products and relationships we offer
today.”
davout: it's just in
the continuation of debt money, it's not really a competitor
to bitcoin in any way
davout: well, for certain values of money it works, for
the ones we're interested in it's irrelevant
ThickAsThieves: they wanna use it
to send money fast all over
the place
ThickAsThieves: well in
the case of
their own stated purpose,
the difference is semantic, no?
davout: ThickAsThieves: bitcoin doesn't work for
the "same purposes", bitcoin is about cash, ripple is about debt
davout: ThickAsThieves: i don't really see anything wrong with ripple as long as you
take it for what it actually is : a mechanism
to
transmit debt, for which you have
to buy stamps from a single company
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin works for
the same purposes and it isn't owned by a company
Apocalyptic: maybe
they don't want
to have all
the egs in
the same basket
ThickAsThieves: <+davout> or
they let only known customers hold
them //// itll be
this
davout: (and
to bitcoin-central as well obv. but
they have no stake in it, so
that's not really
the same)
davout: it's interesting
that
they do
that since ripple will
then be a direct competitor
to both kraken and bitcoin.de
davout: latter case
there's not much point
davout: former case
they're ripe for ML abuse and whatnot
davout: or
they let only known customers hold
them
davout: they let anyone hold
them
davout: ThickAsThieves: wonder how
that will be implemented
tho
jurov: and
that's like fourth
time i got completely improbable bacteria diagnosed, including some special superbacteria from iraq
jurov: and
to
think i had sore
throad on and off for months
jurov: Though it initially produces general symptoms like fatigue, it can rapidly progress from fever, headache and neck stiffness
to coma and death.
jurov: i just got informed
that neisseria meningitis was found in my
throat, now im reading wikipedia:
bounce: all zat fanzy vheb
teknologie
artifexd: It is resolving
to 82.15.145.10 for me.
mircea_popescu: there ios some possibility someone is using
the favicon
to
track people visiting
the server
artifexd: I get
the R. But when I paste
the url
to imgur, it shows a key.
Apocalyptic: so no
trilema article regarding
that convo with bitcoingirl I guess
mircea_popescu: so.
the plain domain has a penguin.
the :11371 however has a changing icon
artifexd: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say
that something is screwy.
fluffypony: it looked like
that standard key server interface earlier, now it has css
artifexd: Seriously. I'm getting "This is
the default web page for
this server." on
the port 80 url.
artifexd: They both look vastly different
than earlier.
artifexd: In which case, no. I have something
that looks like a stylized R.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: considering
the amount of work going into cardano << secure is a relative, not an absolute
term.
mircea_popescu: artifexd is one a penguin and
the other a flashing gif ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves money laundering is
the only conceivable explanation.
mircea_popescu: it used
to be
that if you uped yourself for 30 mins, anyone could down you and it stuck.
then kako broke it.
assbot: Voicing wywialm without
time-limit.
mircea_popescu: i mean people usually derp about how bad
trolls are on
the internet
fluffypony: even after having
things pointed out
they like
to argue minutiae and wording on
the wiki
fluffypony: wywialm: don't get fussed over -otc,
they
throw
tantrums about how
to rate every few days lately
mircea_popescu: anyway
they should chillax, plenty of people have a
ton of meaningless -10s
wywialm: i'm asking cause I was just accused in
the -otc of shilling