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Drew: I am looking on the bitcointalk.org forum for an investor though, and one thing you may be able to help me with (if you are willing) would be how to more readiliy pitch it to them
benkay: ya well that gets you some amount of politeness.
Drew: I came here at the advice of ThickAsThieves, though I could have been more clear with him about the background of it
benkay: not much of that in this play.
benkay: Drew: we're mostly interested in businesses that cryptocurrencies enable.
benkay: second market if gambling's your thing.
benkay: just index the s/p
Drew: unless they were looking to put their eggs in multiple baskets rather than one
benkay: zero reason for btc folk to get involved.
Drew: electric daisy carnival is branching out their festival, and even though they recently formed a "creative partnership" with SFX (the corporate devil in their eyes) that is not taking away from their brand following
benkay: if your brand = your corporation, i don't see how that's addressing the concern.
Drew: i would correct you though benkay, in that the abhorrence is mostly towards large corporation involvement in live music, not so much the brands themselves
benkay: this sounds like "we;re going to be the grateful dead but ultra corporate and the kids will love it"
Drew: wise of them
benkay: yeah they keep their brand where nobody can see it.
Drew: while they own many venues and are able to throw larger shows and more frequently than most people, they don't directly throw any festivals or 5000+ person events that i am aware of
Drew: i would say that livenation is automatically abhorred by the vast majority of not only e-tards but lovers of live music in general
Drew: i would say that those 2 questions are very much interrelated
benkay: how do you plan to address the e-tard's demonstrated abhorrence of large brands?
dub: I lol that the US learned about "EDM" 30 years later and is liek 'jump on dis new shit'
benkay: town down the rhetoric e-boy.
Drew: 8. the effect created by our structure will be to, instead of having one event per year for promotion to be centered around, we have 90-100 events associated with the brand across the country throughout the entire year to build promotion around, using each event as a social media hub and continuing to expand our presence. This will create the most unified EMC related brand that has existed so far, making it the literal perfect
Drew: 7. The medium / large scale events will be spaced out around the year in each different location (Atlanta, Dallas, LA, NYC, Portland, Denver, Chicago, Miami, etc) so that the portion of the fanbase we develop into rabid fans can literally follow our brand around the country, like some music fans do.
Drew: 6. Our brand will have 8-10 medium/large scale events (~10-15 thousand people, multiple stages, 20+ acts), each with 10 small scale events (500-2500 people, one stage, 2-3 acts) in the surrounding area. Each medium/large scale event will be annually, with the 10 surrounding small events spaced out throughout the year to lead up to each large scale event.
Drew: 5. The majority of music festivals, including the ones he has purchased, have one large event per year. If they are quality events, they gain a raving loyal following who attends every year and their audience steadily increases. (Electric Forest, Ultra Music Festival, etc)
Drew: 4. Our strategy is designed to create a brand which will cater to what this man and his company are trying to accomplish, which will value our brand at easily a quarter of a billion dollars. We will do this by having a different approach than any currently existing brand.
Drew: 3. -If he was able to unite much of the industry under one brand, he would effectively control the marketing ability to 18-34 year olds with disposable income, an ability worth a tremendous amount of money to corporations that are looking to market their product to this demographic (of which there are a vast amount)
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benkay: hop on that handle
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benkay: also, you can't up yourself, i don't think.
Drew: thank you benkay, and thanks for !upping me
Drew: 2. -out of the worlds population of 7 billion, 3.6 billion are under the age of 30, and 2 billion are millennials. -Electronic Music is indisputably the music of choice for the 18-34 year old demographic mentioned above -The “Electronic Music Culture”, as he calls it, is more digitally plugged in and more reliably marketed to in a modern sense than any other genre -The industry is currently very fragmented, and was much mor
benkay: /query assbot to start a conversation
Drew: 1. There is a media company (SFX entertainment) has stated that they are building a $1 billion empire in the Electronic Dance Music (EDM) space and have already spent $400 million buying different EDM festival related brands all over the world in the last year for anywhere from $15-$100 million.
Drew: OK - I have successfully thrown a music festival in Atlanta called Lunar Massive. Our plan is to continue the brand in the most optimum direction and develop it into the ideal acquisition target for the below company for the further below reasons. - ☟︎
Drew: ok, well anyways ThickAsThieves here are a few rough points on my business for discussion
kakobrekla: that the last step of many steps one must take before one takes the last step
Drew: like how do i private message assbot to up me
Drew: i mean as far as if i rejoin and need to get !upped again
mike_c: except the aliens that read the log
kakobrekla: you type in this box, this is private, limited to earth residents
mircea_popescu: because everyone's living handout to handout, and the best way to be loved is to create the appearance of doling out handouts
mircea_popescu: preferable to "has deployed capital judiciously"
mircea_popescu: but in backwards world, "having spent a lot of money" is a claim to fame,
mircea_popescu: mike_c everyone thinks "it's good pr". somehow the fucking world is upside down. for instance, in a sane market, the shareholders of the acquirer would discount ther share
mike_c: and they immediately shut the project down
mike_c: when they just hired the team and nobody got any money
mike_c: benkay: not retarded to do it, retarded to have these "blah blah company got acquired" nonsense
benkay: not retarded at all. better the team you know than the miscellaneous derps from the meetup you don't.
mike_c: yeah, it's a new thing. so retarded.
mircea_popescu: mike_c they used to, pre bubble.
mike_c: no startup ever goes bust in the us. always an acq-hire at the end..
mircea_popescu: who the fuck writes coinbase pr copy ? ahmed ?
mike_c: grammar has two a's :D
mircea_popescu: "a start-up company whose product gives users with a way to grammer"
ThickAsThieves: but the acquired folks are old ycombo buddies of coinbase's
ThickAsThieves: no $ amount mentioned for the deal
Jezzz: mike_c: notice that too :P
ThickAsThieves: "Coinbase announced that it acquired Kippt, a start-up company whose product gives users with a way to store and sort online media."
mircea_popescu: lol pron anal-yzation engines is where the webmoney is!
Jezzz: dunno if I have time to build ozbot a porn analyzation engine
Jezzz: if you have another tumblr source you'd like me to add to the randomization, I can do that
mircea_popescu: use naked in public or something, those retouched soft pronz are painful
mircea_popescu: and one denominated in the wrong symbol.
mircea_popescu: DrewHorne if you want to discuss some business plan, discuss some business plan
ThickAsThieves: DrewHorne, either share or dont share, youre worrying about the drapes for a house you dont own yet
Jezzz goes back to his other project :)
kakobrekla: no to perfect!
mircea_popescu: better to have informative titles for all uses
kakobrekla: i am, as in exist, i havent started make the change yet.
DrewHorne: ThickAsThieves - so if I were able to discuss ~90% of my business plan here, but it involved fiat currency, would this not be a proper place to vet the plan?
kakobrekla: what no do you want me to do it or ?
Jezzz: mircea_popescu: i'm almost done, they better hurry :)
mircea_popescu: i dunno about that hehe. we've had rapid deployment b4
Jezzz: indeed ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> upon consideration, i think jezz has a very valid point. it's not ozbot that should change.// hey that was my point!
mircea_popescu: it's bitbet. kakobrekla can we make individual bet titles read like "BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day. 85 btc on yes (73%), 30 btc on no (27%), 55 days left (33`212 weight)" instead of just bet title as is now ?
DrewHorne: and i actually don't watch any TV really
mircea_popescu: upon consideration, i think jezz has a very valid point. it's not ozbot that should change.
DrewHorne: was i not sharing both equally by simultaneously sharing what I want and how it would benefit them?
ThickAsThieves: I think they lead with the ask
ThickAsThieves: maybe he watches too much Shark Tank
ThickAsThieves: you are more excited to share what you want from people, than what you have to offer them
mircea_popescu: <DrewHorne> BUT the investment has a 6000% return, looking for $1,250,000 USD in exchange for 30% equity of a company we will sell for $250,000,000 in 5 years << this should go in my list of "stupid things one should never say"
mircea_popescu: how is this a paradox ?
DrewHorne: is that a real freenode lol jezzz
mircea_popescu: you're in the barber shop explaining you want clothes made.
ThickAsThieves: paradox isnt the right word
DrewHorne: ill check it out jezzz thanks
DrewHorne: this is true, hence I am in a bit of a paradox here.
Jezzz shoos DrewHorne to #fiat-assets
mircea_popescu: <DrewHorne> basically my idea involves moreso a fiat investment rather than a bitcoin investment for starters, << so that's the end of the discussion.
ThickAsThieves: also, if you lead with your hands out, that doesnt help
mircea_popescu: im not sure that'd be useful tbh
mike_c: you already grabbing URLs, should be easy to regex bitbet urls and do something different, no?
mircea_popescu: alternatively, kako could indeed change the title.
ThickAsThieves: Drew if any of the secrets you keep are require dknowledge to vet your plan, then we cant help you
DrewHorne: BUT the investment has a 6000% return, looking for $1,250,000 USD in exchange for 30% equity of a company we will sell for $250,000,000 in 5 years
Jezzz: lemme see if there's an easy way to do like a dynamic search