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mircea_popescu: well so you can appreciate our problem. if we were to try and evaluate your claim, we'd have no objective weay to distinguish you from a random guy that bought a ticket.
Drew: there is plenty of published material regarding EDMutual and Decibel though, and through them i can very readily prove my association with this project
Drew: probably not honestly. I organized the entire team that threw it, met and introduced the 2 partners (EDMutual and Decibel), designed the initial business plan and found the investment. My name isnt on any of that though
mircea_popescu: any published material that includes your name in connection to this ?
Drew: they grew more expensive as the event approached but that was one of the early bird prices
Drew: yes, thats the one
mircea_popescu: Drew aha so nov 15, North Atlanta Trade Center, $40 a ticket.
mircea_popescu: most industrialised countries do not, lepidopterae being some of the most sensitive to pollution
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: like the water engine imo << wtf is a water engine? old-school water mill?
Drew: several articles come up just from the google search
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In my region we seem to be having a strong rebound year for bees.
asciilifeform: well, they're a renewable resource.
mircea_popescu: Drew there seems to be no mention anywhere except on the promoters' fb pages.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or just as well not export thewm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: glad to hear that you still have functioning bees. our bees over here are having problems.
mircea_popescu: Drew what was attendance at this festival ?
Drew: more than 5 years to reach that usage rate? or more than 5 years for all BTC to be mined? or both?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: thank you
BingoBoingo: Prolly take more than five years for that though
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment
Drew: relative to todays USD value
Drew: something along those lines
Drew: my friend has told me that with a 1% widespread usage, with all the BTC mined they would be 1 million USD apiece?
BingoBoingo: -25% to +1500% range
Drew: in the next 5 years, what do you see the roi being on bitcoin?
asciilifeform: (i, for those who don't know, ended up here entirely by fortune. invited by mpoepr/hanbot)
benkay: shit gets complicated fast when you touch both positive and negative terminals.
benkay: that's the catch.
Duffer1: you would have to be incredibly profitable to roi for investors who buy in BTC if your customers are paying in fiat
BingoBoingo: Drew: Traffic /= Good
benkay: most investors who want to go long the USD do so with their USD investments.
Drew: really? i was referred to it as being one of the top 2000 most trafficked sites on the internet
BingoBoingo: There probably are some. Not many people take anything on Bitcointalk seriously
asciilifeform: one could argue that 'we' ought to still take an interest in these lost souls, if only to prevent them from ending as fuel, stoking chumpatron
Drew: do you not think that there are investors in that space that would be interested in fiat investments?
BingoBoingo: What explains Taaki then?
Drew: so if the bitcoin assets space is definitely almost entirely btc focused, would you say that the bitcointalk space is as well? I have had a couple of responses even on my posts that were almost entirely flame-ridden
asciilifeform: i suppose a definition is unnecessary - folks who have a poor enough grasp of the mechanics, of both varieties, will soon lose interest in btc and fade away
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine they have half of it. Seaman vs. Able Seaman
asciilifeform: e.g. does a fellow who read the bitcoind src, satoshi paper, understood mostly - but then pisses away his stash into chumpatrons, 'competence' ?
mod6: if i had 1 satoshi for everytime they got it wrong, i'd have 1 BTC by now.
benkay: yeah, that's a good one.
mod6: pff, how about 'how many satoshi in 1 BTC?' i see them get this wrong /constantly/ on twitter, drives me up a tree.
BingoBoingo: benkay: I think asciilifeform Has a better point
Drew: where would be a good point to start, readingwise
benkay: (referring to BingoBoingo)
asciilifeform: would be interesting to define 'bitcoin competence'
BingoBoingo: The way to learn though is more reading than doing, at least at first.
benkay: death to fiat fueled governments etc etc
Drew: is there not/
Drew: i feel that there should be a way to earn trust with this space in other ways than proving bitcoin competency
BingoBoingo: Or tomorrow
BingoBoingo: Drew: Well the best time to start learning the space was 2010-2011. The next best time to start learning is today.
benkay: but this is a bitcoin centric space.
benkay: various artists have been commissioned via this channel
Drew: and also my referral to this space
Drew: im definitely not an idiot, but a good friend of mine is the bitcoin expert
benkay: and also that you execute
Drew: also as much as i appreciate the bitcoin space, it is not my expertise
BingoBoingo: The point though is to continue demonstrating you aren't an idiot
benkay: 'course, there's no cardano yet.
benkay: mircea_popescu has a standing offer on the table for people to promote the cardano
BingoBoingo: These things happen nearly every day. Maybe it takes a while for something to fit your skillset.
Drew: trust would be the point
Drew: seems like lucrative isnt the point
BingoBoingo: It really depends. You can scroll up to the conversation about making ozbot better as an example.
benkay: and the opportunities are neither guaranteed nor lucrative.
benkay: thing is that you gotta lurk
BingoBoingo: Drew: If you lurk opportunities get offered rather frequently to do things for people.
assbot: Voice for Drew extended to 30 minutes.
benkay: what you've *been* trusted to do
benkay: what you can be trusted to do
Drew: what can i do that is productive towards my goal to gain that
assbot: Voice for Drew extended to 30 minutes.
Drew: so i will basically have to dig a hole and fill it back in again for the sole sake of demonstrating competence
benkay: basically, other humans have to trust you.
Drew: so what is the easiest way to accquire trust through that? or the most efficient rather
Drew: yeah benkay, it seems like the web of trust is where i need to head to
Drew: i'd imagine that it happens both ways every day actually
Drew: i would imagine that there are some btc connections that may decide to become a fiat connection any day though
benkay: i can't trust you without it though.
benkay: not much use if you're running a fiat biz and only care about your fiat connections, though.
gribble: #bitcoin-otc web of trust: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php>; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php>; #bitcoin-otc: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/>
benkay: ;;google bitcoin-otc web of trust
benkay: web of trust
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Drew: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Drew | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Drew | Rated since: never
Drew: get into the wot?
benkay: best way to substantiate claims about identity is...get in to the wot and get people vouching for you.
Drew: i would hope that that would separate me from people such as dank
Drew: and actually have a team with 50 years of experience in the market
Drew: We actually have experience though, have accomplished some things already, and are looking to expand
BingoBoingo: Honestly Drew you sound like a less floridly psychotic version of Dank on bitcointalk with this plan.
Drew: with the exception of tomorrowworld and counterpoint, 2 multi-day festivals with 100x the budget
Drew: the response was that it was the 3rd best electronic music event held in atlanta to date
Drew: we just successfully threw a music festival in atlanta with some pretty star studded acts
benkay: what experience do you have managing dopamine-depleted volunteers and arbitrating rape accusations on the fly?
benkay: have you done anything like this before?
benkay: business rolls downhill to the heavy objects. be a heavy object.
Drew: thats ok, politeness isn't something i came looking for. I have a thick skin and would prefer constructive brute criticism to beating around the bush senseless politeness any day
benkay: go outside. meet people in the entertainment biz. raise money, do thing.