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Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu re vertcoin, I have no idea how big the VTC market is, nor what hashrate the network has
pankkake: I wonder why there's no clothing line yet
fluffypony: bounce: well think about how something like WhatsApp was valued - it's valuation was based on userbase and potential monetisation right?
bounce: fairly brilliant marketing move, though I'm not too impressed by the damage
fluffypony: Naphex: I'm talking more about stuff like the iPad - it wasn't even a particularly novel idea, it was just so well executed that every major exec on the planet seems to have switched 80% of their tasks to their iPad instead of their laptop
bounce: so? plenty large companies do that, and worse. "vaporware"
pankkake: it didn't work at all, but they hyped the ipad before that, hoping it would
pankkake: jobs sold the ipad to the press, as the thing that would save them
bounce: though probably not exlusively to nor blamable on apple
Naphex: sorry i meant a severly limited computer which you can use too buy more apple shit
fluffypony: the dude was smart that way
Apocalyptic: Naphex, they have nothing to spend it on
fluffypony: pankkake: nah, Jobs had insight and vision into what people (generally) wanted before they even knew they want it
bounce: the thing is, apple is sitting on an ungodly pile of money, without much in the way of ideas
bounce could do the vision thing, blackberry style. -- that basically was a company with one customer, the boss. making something that blind-sides the hipsters, repeatedly, well, few can do that.
fluffypony: time will tell
fluffypony: bounce: yeah he seems to be good at managing the company and keeping it profitable and smooth, but he doesn't seem to have the requisite insight and vision
pankkake: fluffypony: it's unknown, but it's a /g/ meme. these last days it's even better than usual obviously
fluffypony: pankkake: who is that? that's the nerd equivalent of someone taking a picture of themselves standing next to a Nissan 350Z (when they're probably 3 mths behind on payments) and putting it on Facebook to impress everyone with his lavish riches
bounce: they're pretty headless right now. the rest runs pretty well -- cook is (I'm told) very good at the whole supply chain thing
fluffypony: bounce: yeah, I get the feeling that they're worried about losing ground in that space without Jobs
bounce: but apple always made its own. it's to be seen if they can manage someone else's thing
bounce: apple do know how to be cool and hip and things, or at least jobs managed to hit the nail on the head an ungodly long tim
fluffypony: if it happens it seems to be a marketing exercise for Apple - they could certainly compete from a branding and quality perspective, but they're losing their "cool and hip" image
fluffypony: they'll lose ground in a few years, but right now they're a hot commodity
fluffypony: it's one of those "if you're cool you own a pair" products
fluffypony: bounce: they've got a wide market
bounce: how the fsck is a novelty headphone brand worth 3.2bn dollahs?
fluffypony: except not pretty enough to be jailbait
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/embed/9oWAUaZ_XZE << let's play guess the camho's age.
fluffypony: and need a bit of testing-with-fire
fluffypony: I think there are some guys that want to do things in a way that is successful
fluffypony: seriously tho
fluffypony: pankkake: trolling is fun :)
mircea_popescu: i guess the rest you could rape...
mircea_popescu: you can only insult the willing.
pankkake: insulting people on the internet was the bonus
pankkake: I lasted in the forums because there wasn't much else I could do of my days
fluffypony: I actually don't know how mpoe-pr/hanbot lasted as long as she did without quitting, I wouldn't have lasted more than a month
mircea_popescu: curious how long that'll last.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony yes man, that's how it works. take dr foreskin : he does something stupid. he's publicly told just how stupid he is. he moves on to claiming that THE WORLD IS BROKEN
pankkake: also, lol at not using BitPay because they are "in bed with BFL"
fluffypony: and Jasun7211's advice is golden because he's the *respektud sharezholder*
pankkake: and who the RESPECTED shareholder is
pankkake: I'm not sure what he even meant by that
fluffypony: "Hmmmn, tricky. Go with the new poster whose first post started with a personal insult or take the advice and recommendation from an established and respected shareholder? What will Ken do? Tricky."
fluffypony: pankkake: his reply is what triggered the blog post I'm writing
pankkake: fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg6620628#msg6620628 if this guy really works for coinbase… :/
Naphex: well BB might just get 0dayd with all those PHP scripts they run
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu re Kyle Bass, he is saying in that presentation that Argentina is the best country to invest in for the following years
mircea_popescu: somehow they think the strategy involved is not transparent as glass, i have no idea why.
fluffypony: anyway I was writing a blog post about the fucktards that are Coinbase before getting distracted by this, I'ma finish it
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic re buffett : i chuckled at the recent sacking of that wsj reporter over calling buffet a hypocrite for no good reason.
Apocalyptic: he took the Buffet way out
Apocalyptic: I like how the first question he's asked is "what do you think about bitcoin", despite it not being mentionned at all
fluffypony: and whatever hasn't decomposed would still be more than investing in BitcoinBourse stocks
mircea_popescu: he got trampled to shit by mpoe-pr for being a fucktard, rather than admit he;'s a fucktard he prefers to claim "it was impossible anyway":
fluffypony: you could bury the money as cash in the ground and dig it up over 5 years
pankkake: well he's right that most are junk
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he's not wrong, assuming he's referring to the "stock" on BitcoinBourse and CryptoStocks
mircea_popescu: someone needs to hit him over the head with the http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/
mircea_popescu: "If, instead of treating their BTC like play money and throwing it into this kind of junk, folks just took a portion of their available dollars and invested that capital into random selections from the S&P 500, they would likely do much, much better."
mircea_popescu: "Not to go all off-topic, but another alternative is that you could just conclude that with very few exceptions, the entire Bitcoin securities universe is currently populated with junk -- and not even bother."
fluffypony: Naphex: with that smile I wouldn't trust him further than I could throw him
fluffypony: to the death!
mircea_popescu: think about that! in the past couple of years, the dollar has lost ground AGAINST THE ROMANIAN LEU
fluffypony: "We are currently duel listed on https://cryptostocks.com/securities/126 and bitcoin Bourse and shares are exchangeable between the two."
mircea_popescu: Duminica, 26 August, Anul 4 (ie, 2012) : ron/usd = 3.58199 ; Today 9 May 2014 : ron/usd = 3.21055
ozbot: BitcoinWallet Aims to Make Digital Currency More Social, Transparent|PaymentsSource
ozbot: BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today
fluffypony: right that's enough fr.wikipedia.org for the day
fluffypony: there's that
mircea_popescu: i think in english that's rolled into cuckolding
fluffypony: "The term soupeur means and first of all individuals who take pleasure in eating food soaked in the urine of others"
davout: "Dans son autobiographie One two two3, l'ex-prostituée Fabienne Jamet évoque ainsi cette pratique : « À l'époque où je dirigeais le 122, j'avais un soupeur qui me prenait trente à quarante foutres à chaque visite »4."
fluffypony introduces davout to bleach
mircea_popescu: a bitch to wash prolly
chetty: god I bet that feels nice to wear
chetty: doods, always buy off the self, security. random stuffs is safer
mircea_popescu: the only way is to buy it physically.
pankkake: anyway, the choice isn't that great in retail
pankkake: though once I tried to save a few euros and ordered from multiple retailers, wasn't worth it
pankkake: so more practical to order online
Naphex: and i was hoping to get it 2nd day
pankkake: eww buying pc parts of the shelf?!
mircea_popescu: he has to order from chisinev
mircea_popescu: pankkake because he's assburgers and can't drive 50 miles to fucking vienna to buy the stuff off the shelf
pankkake: Naphex: so why do you order from this emag thing if it sucks?
mircea_popescu: Naphex back then, like 90% of the entire market cap was this one austrian conglomerate.
Naphex: and tradeville ;o
fluffypony: lol Google Translate
mircea_popescu: fluffypony sort-of. these guys : http://trilema.com/2012/doua-poze-mii-de-cuvinte-milioane-de-lei/
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: you mean the crowd that self-identify as "ibankers" ? :-P
mircea_popescu: Naphex no but i mean the derps that pretend like they're bankers and bvb traders and whatnot
Naphex: yesterday was straight wall for most the day/night. 120 @ 1342 , 1344
Naphex: but there is no patience,
Naphex: they realize i think
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long the local fucktards realise there's a 10% arb hole available.
mircea_popescu: 1284 trading even.
gribble: USD to RON - The Money Converter: <http://themoneyconverter.com/USD/RON.aspx>; USD/RON - The Money Converter: <http://themoneyconverter.com/RON/USD.aspx>; USD to RON Exchange Rate - Bloomberg: <http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRON:CUR>