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Naphex: i wanted
to start over, refused when
they denied. after 1 year
Naphex: and any new feature
they wanted
to add might
take more
then 1 month
Naphex: then all
the problems started, while working in
their code base was just a waste of
time
Naphex: it might just be
too shitty of a code+architecture
to work productively in
pankkake: I've only refused one project, and my colleague refused it
too, because
there wasn't much
to be saved, and fixing it would cost more
than doing it again
Naphex: the starting over
thing,
there is where
the problems lie
ThickAsThieves: probably, but at some point someone has
to fucking finish something
pankkake: they probably want
to start over for good reasons
Naphex: if every
team wants
to start over it might just be
too shitty
ThickAsThieves: this is actually
the 3rd or 4th
team we had on it,
the previous one were all worse
Naphex: i went in, identified root problems, identified what
the customer, client needs
to realease
Naphex: ah well, when i used
to pick up dieing projects
ThickAsThieves: it's for a family business, but i havent been
the manager of it
Naphex: <+ThickAsThieves> but even cleanup is
taking months << why is
the cleanup
taking so long?
Naphex: bring in
the experts, and a project manager
that has a history as a drill sargent
Naphex: <<< Bring in
the heavy artillery
Naphex: <+ThickAsThieves>
to you developers, what you do you do when you are 3yrs deep with an uncompleted large project, and
the last 20% seems
to be when most of
the
time was spent on? When you also know you can't use
this
team
artifexd: Do you have
the source code for what
they have done so far? What does
the contract say about non-completion?
ThickAsThieves: i dunno i used
the software some and it mostly works, it's just cleanup
artifexd: Sounds like it is
time
to find new developers and revisit your requirements.
The may need some breaking down/clarification.
ThickAsThieves: i
think another issue is
the provider vastly underestimated
the work
pankkake: there is a chance
the
thing is worthless; it might have appeared
to work, but
there's not much inside
ThickAsThieves: i
think
they use foreigners so
the
tasks arent clearly communicated
artifexd: Are
the slacking, losing focus, or incompetent?
pankkake: sounds like it should have been
the first
thing
to do
pankkake: is
the 20%
the actual, vital stuff?
artifexd: ThickAsThieves:
The 80/20 problem is not new
mike_c: so you're 1.8 yrs late in firing
them?
ThickAsThieves: sure, but
this was on schedule
to be completed 2 yrs ago
mike_c: well, first off,
the last 20% is always where
the
time is spent
ThickAsThieves: to you developers, what you do you do when you are 3yrs deep with an uncompleted large project, and
the last 20% seems
to be when most of
the
time was spent on? When you also know you can't use
this
team long-term, even after it's completed?
ThickAsThieves: "am, who came out in February, is projected
to be selected Saturday --
the
third day of
the NFL draft. Although his marketability is likely
to be
tied heavily
to making a
team and playing well, he has received dozens of endorsement deal offers, which is unprecedented for an expected late-round pick."
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mike_c: davout: well, what i mean is
the US doesn't have a word
that
they use like russia uses motherland
davout: i mean you're saying english doesn't have a word for X, where X is a word,
that doesn't sound like you just made it up
davout: that's like saying
the french don't have a word for entrepreneur
mike_c: US doesn't have a word for motherland
though.
mike_c: stalin? either
that, or putin said it yesterday?
ThickAsThieves: "This is a holiday when all-conquering patriotic force
triumphs, when we all feel especially strongly what it means
to be
true
to
the Motherland and how important it is
to be able
to stand up for its interests" "Hurrah!" ~ Guess who said
that and when.
ThickAsThieves: <+thestringpuller>
ThickAsThieves wtf, am I going
to become old like you? /// you will never be as old as me, sorry
pankkake: there's no age
to be a curmudgeon
thestringpuller: i don't want
to
turn into a cranky old man
this soon like MP
ThickAsThieves ponders a "Buy
TAT a joint" bitcoin
tip button for Amsterdam liveblog.
thestringpuller: Wale made a line just for me "Money got me pulling strings, I got
that Geppetto dough"
thestringpuller: "Hold on lemme find my lighter...*lighter sound*
The engine in
the back of my car, I'm clearly in a different
tax bracket now dawg"
thestringpuller: I honestly
think Curren$y would hang out in #bitcoin-assets if he was in bitcoin
fluffypony: one
that supports 4 coins at
the same
time!
ThickAsThieves: hi gais, i'm
trying
to quantum mine, which pool should i use/
fluffypony: and
then we hook it up
to a "listen
to bitcoin" style service
ThickAsThieves: i've heard, with my own ears, "bitcoin" rapped in
this studio in lyrics, it was embarassing
thestringpuller: Fine
ThickAsThieves i'll get some producers myself and make my own bitcoin mix
tape :P
fluffypony: I'll rap - I mean, I did say on
the AMC
thread
that I was "dropping
the mic"
bounce: what's medium.com on about
this
time? don't have a
tablet so I'm
too square
to access
their hipsteriffic site.
fluffypony: and once it's up other people will contribute
to it
Naphex: i am shit at writing docs, better at writing and
talking
through code
ThickAsThieves: "First problem: stealth address usage bloats
the block chain." fucking hell already
Naphex: everything in
that article is
then solved
Naphex: is BIp32 hd pub keys, ecdsa signed with root address,
then assigned
ThickAsThieves: "If
the chain code ever leaks
then all your payments become linkable."
ThickAsThieves: "y keeping
the chain code hidden behind
the server, we get unlinkability. "
ThickAsThieves: whats wrong is it doesnt inject a new point of failure for
the NSA
to fuck with
Naphex: and vetting it
through bitcoin sig
ThickAsThieves: next article: "TAT is
the worst merchanty payment processor article critic ever"
fluffypony: and
then you can comment on
that new article