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mircea_popescu: it truncates.
mircea_popescu: May 09 14:23:57 <assbot>[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 99.77743063 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 19 satoshi per share
jurov: mircea_popescu: really, you tolerate almost 5% reporting error?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: just in the loop somewhat << prolly time to start grepping clients from hell for recognisable specifics.
mike_c: why not a 7 at the end?
asciilifeform: (note the traditional engl. mistranslation of the russian term for ww2 - 'great patriotic war' - really, '
mircea_popescu: what happens when the fatherland and the motherland get in bed ?
Naphex: mircea_popescu: probably, because before ranting about it here they couldn't find my paiments :))
mircea_popescu: Naphex maybe they idle here.
jurov: http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/ so mike_c at least you can publish the correct dividend per share when mircea neglects to
pankkake: the French might use Patrie, which is like the motherland but with a penis
asciilifeform: a kind of 'aspirational' tag
asciilifeform: u.s. uses 'nation' sorta like the comblok folks used 'people's republic'
Naphex: mircea_popescu: yeah i'll get some time to document it and make some examples.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: well, nation << he's right davout_ mike_c. the us uses "nation" like "our great nation" "defending the nation" etc.
jurov: and _no_ other rounding is done, so the dividend is not a whole number of satoshi
jurov: where the 500000000 is a "float" sometimes obscure even for MP himself
jurov: but anyway, the correct formula to compute your divs is
mircea_popescu: Naphex: whats wrong with DNS << that you didn't document your thing.
mike_c: jurov: 18 digits. you know way too much about mpex.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic: for me it's beyond doubt coinbase is scaming with their high risk tx bullshit << he also has a point.
jurov: and the rest goes where?
mircea_popescu: the 30% that normally goes to mpex shareholders goes towards the credit
mike_c: 30% goes to mistake, 70% should go to divs, yes?
mircea_popescu: mike_c "Because MPEx shareholders were paid 3.68215306 BTC instead of the 1.10464591 BTC they were actually due for February, 30% of profits going forward will be allocated to covering that credit, in lieu of MPEx dividends. This sum comes to 0.99104946 BTC this current period, leaving the credit to be covered in following months at 1.22827111 BTC."
jurov: just rouded to satoshi at the last possible moment
jurov: mike_c mpex dividends are really paid to 18 digits of accuracy
ozbot: BitBet, March 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mike_c: of course, that's 9 digits after the decimal, so they can't really be trusted.
mike_c: hm. btcalpha accountants think that no div was paid last month, and 0.250730601 BTC should've been paid to shares on mpex.
jurov: no ozbot? "In Toronto with the world’s feminist pornographers"
ThickAsThieves: deviladvocate.biz new-user count is up 50% in 5 days. Almost ready to IPVO!
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: Read it, the more opinions the better
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so should i bother to read this thing or just wait for 2038 ?
ThickAsThieves: even scripting is too gracious a term for it
ThickAsThieves: but yeah i was trolling
asciilifeform: 'condemned to program for life, at Her Majesty's pleasure'
ThickAsThieves: other than hacking apart html and css to make websites look different sometimes
benkay: he trollin
ThickAsThieves: i do all my programming on tablet
asciilifeform: then you have 3 offices. back to laptops.
benkay: y'all are in the fortunate position of having offices.
asciilifeform: benkay: as described in my post (linked earlier.) it is easiest to ignore apple when one has no need for portable computer (i think it was mp, and a few others, who noted that they never needed a laptop)
mircea_popescu: benkay i didn't fuck a woman last night, tho she was giving me the fuck me eyes. she had the best ears in the world.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: so it's in that context << you have to include your context in your blogposts. that's why mine end up ungodly long soimetimes, you want a reader falling on it ten years later to still get a whole meal.
benkay: y'all apple haters miss the part where they make the best laptop chassis in the world.
mike_c: oh yes, no argument there.
mircea_popescu: 04:50:57 mircea_popescu:your blog got 0 comments the past month. << just because your blog doesn't get comments doesn't mean it sucks. << no, but it also doesn't mean you can "get my name out there"
asciilifeform: (in the sense of the hardware and os baked under same roof)
asciilifeform: apple vacuuming up winblows escapees is not the complete picture. they also profited from the demise of sun, sgi, etc. - being the only remaining vendor of what amounts to '90-style 'unix workstation'
mircea_popescu: bounce: kinda interesting. though I probably wouldn't go through the trouble even if I had access to (or need for) those things << exactly. it's sort-of like putting your time into being the best earthworm kinetotherapist. why bother.
mircea_popescu: in changing a functional workstation for a severely crippled, difficult to use one.
mircea_popescu: and re "executive"'s move to apple : the point of sad fact is that actual executive power moved from the us to china in this interval. the ever swelling headcount of ever more powerless and pointless us based pseudo-executives have chosen to temporarily drown the realisation of their loss
mircea_popescu: they just temporarily thought they did.
mircea_popescu: Naphex: sorry i meant a severly limited computer which you can use too buy more apple shit << exactly. in point of fact nobody actually wants an apple anything.
mircea_popescu: apple do know how to be cool and hip and things, or at least jobs managed to hit the nail on the head an ungodly long tim << that's it. apple is now reduced to the position of rich old guy trying to buy the company of the hip young things in the hopes it'll attract the teenage pussy it's after.
bounce: teach'em to swim
ThickAsThieves: so they wanna pay someone to handle that
ThickAsThieves: but now Moodle is way out of date and missing features they really want
ThickAsThieves: other than time passing
ThickAsThieves: there's no new expense for this current iteration
ThickAsThieves: note that this point is off on a tangent
benkay: but client didn't care to pay for a new stack - would rather throw 4x as much at the old stack.
benkay: cost...too much. probably more than writing a cms/ecom platform ourselves woulda.
benkay: ebay staff didn't think it was even POSSIBLE. but we did it.
benkay: i worked at a shop once that charged an ungodly amount of money to migrate another large ecom hustler from magento community to magento pro
thestringpuller: "If you want nice things you have to pay for them"
benkay: Magento's a really good example of this. you start a business selling shit online, you're all "hey magento! it's awesome and does everything i need!" then you want to hire someone to do work on your magento install and lolololololol either you hire kids who are learning php on the fly and they do god knows what to your install or you hire actual magento devs at 400+/hr
benkay: not being able to qualify tech teams
benkay: yeah that's the really rough part of the problem
ThickAsThieves: nor quite the ability to confidently discern between them
benkay: man this story is so familiar. non technical stakeholder dictates that a particular already-built thinger be used despite knowing nothing about its architecture or code quality or the ability of development teams to work against the existing codebase. thinger is either a mess or takes 6 months for an individual to come up to speed on the nuances/idiocies of, but project already has thinger built in.
ThickAsThieves: well we have yet to encounter a team that can assist, finding one is not easy when you have no reliable connections into better breeds of programminig teams
benkay: sounds like you'd want to preserve your ability to deliver features fast and on budget at all costs.
ThickAsThieves: 'd be able to customize such
ThickAsThieves: in the SaaS version you
ThickAsThieves: orgs get really particular about grading systems and features they need
ThickAsThieves: there's more need than you might initially realize for a customizable education software
ThickAsThieves: later came the ideas of SaaS
bounce: that sort of thing goes best when the code is a particular kind of stupid: lots of repetition, lots of hooks to revamp.
ThickAsThieves: and they wanted one system
bounce spent a few weeks refactoring a fantastically bad code base. was sort-of fun, if you like a lot of mindless drudgery. lots of condensing copy/pasted code, but also coming up with interfaces to safely re-do (in less code) what's already there giving the same result with less spaghetti. and then slowly "factor up".
ThickAsThieves: so they had two systems
ThickAsThieves: they had a custom thing some freelancer made
ThickAsThieves: well it was more organic than that of course
benkay: pankkake: url-encode everything and throw away the method.
benkay: then there is the 'shoehorn existing software into my problemspace' thing going on as well it sounds
pankkake: benkay: depends on how dirty you want it to be :D
ThickAsThieves: i dont think moodle licence would allow for the master plan though
benkay: unless it was designed to do that from the get-go, but from the sounds of it it's kind of a mess in the first place.
benkay: it's kinda hard to move the custom designd thigner into a multitenant deploy generally, ThickAsThieves
ozbot: Moodle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ThickAsThieves: the idea is for any person or company to be able to use it to build training
thestringpuller: isn't that what Khan Academy does?
ThickAsThieves: in that sense a rewrite is probably inevitable huh
ThickAsThieves: the idea was to make this software, polish it and add features for 6mos in use for grade school education, then further develop it by making it more robust for other types of training (i have/had clients in areas like haxardous material transportation certs, etc), then once it seems ready, make it a DIY SaaS monthly fee website thing
bounce: amazingly, still so many project managers that haven't read _The Mythical Man-Month_
pankkake: bounce: lol, yeah. we wanted to start over on our own code for a project, but it was still manageable, albeit painful
bounce: sometimes you do need to start over. though not as often (and often not when) dev teams want to start over
Naphex: the code, the platform was just too shitty to waste any good programmers time on it