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HeySteve: positive rating implies you trust someone to represent you
HeySteve: it is quite easy to apply a tweaked reputation system to foundation app
cgcardona: top of tha morning everyone o/
fluffypony: so there you have it
fluffypony: to which he replies: " unlike Vert and every other coin, however, it has a stabilization fund to keep wild swings at bay- more attractive to merchants"
assbot: /d_seaman can you do a video explaining the differences betweetn Naut and Vert coin? kinda hard to understand from the pod
fluffypony: and on the topic
assbot: Nautiluscoin is either the greatest troll, or a significant advancement in crypto. Im going w/ significant.
jurov: how's that different from "replace them with bots"?
fluffypony: I think he's trying to provide a software platform that will make the foundation obselete
fluffypony: I don't think it's that
jurov: yea :) the wording sound weird to me anyway.. why having some standards body requires *software* platform?
fluffypony: nah jurov, credit where credit is due, I don't think that's what he's aiming for
jurov: plus throw in some markov chain generated VC-speak...
fluffypony: wow and he put 250 BTC in an address and signed a message to verify that it's a legitimate offer
jurov: i undertood that as "replace karpeles and pierce with bots"
fluffypony: I actually really hope this happens, it will make the foundation obselete
fluffypony: "I am thinking of a system where prominent people can voice their opinion, where people can propose projects, and where the core devs can actively show their roadmap with detailed features + costs, and where we can vote on the features being implemented by sending bitcoins towards the feature of our choice."
assbot: $100,000 bounty for software platform that can replace the Bitcoin Foundation : Bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.45611848 BTC to 8`648 shares, 28401 satoshi per share
moiety: havent ever had a kitchen that big before either
moiety: i just need to sort out references and apply :D
moiety: yep and I loved it! /really/ would like it, it was so nice :D even has motion sensing lights in the stairwell so i dont break myself in the dark
moiety has been to see The Flat today
BingoBoingo: ^ The bsd folks think like the b-a folks
assbot: the hardest problem in computer science is figuring out why anyone has paid the least bit of attention to hacker news in half a decade
pankkake: "The price spiked to roughly $3 within days, and fell just as quickly. As of this writing, the average price for a single maxcoin is just below US$0.05." … https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518131.0
fluffypony: I imagine pankkake as Mr. T being all like "I pity tha fool that uses altcoins"
fluffypony: pankkake: don't forget that some of the experimentation requires real-world use cases
mircea_popescu: let them buy.
mircea_popescu: because human beings being the shits they are, unless you get their balls in a vice they just won't perform.
pankkake: they should be much closer to testnet
pankkake: except they're bought
mircea_popescu: free research, free damage absorbtion, let them be.
mircea_popescu: pankkake that'd be exactly why we like altcoins, eh ?
fluffypony: on technical matters
fluffypony: he's good to interact with
fluffypony: I like Peter Todd
pankkake: "Peter Todd notes to Etherium fans to be careful because Bitcoin can always just copy whatever they do" I don't know who this is, but it's pretty much my point about alcoins: they're experiments, and most of what they do could be pushed into Bitcoin if it was actually useful
mircea_popescu: quite decentralised. i bet the overstuck guy, w/e his name is, has no fucking idea what exactly "issuing shares on top of blockchain" really means.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this isn't spam, this is an ipo.
asciilifeform considers donating to campaign to teach spammers 'the queen's english'
mircea_popescu: meanwhile over at reality ranch, "11bet.org as the football quizzes website of the item, it is the key development direction to expand Website traffic, it will support many kind of virtual currencies to bet."
mircea_popescu: the sparrows that are not, they're legions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the aggregate loss from the use of microshit? who can count the fallen sparrows ?
mircea_popescu: like, social media, naive email, what have you. it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out real gdp is in the low single digit %s of what it should be.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what the aggreegated loss to the world's gdp due to people using anything other than wot based systems to communicate comes to.
asciilifeform: funny thing - i was expecting to see more discussion of the elgamal thing here.
mircea_popescu: me too.
fluffypony: I guess she gets tons of pm's on Reddit and disregards them
mircea_popescu: fluffypony that chick never said anything huh
asciilifeform: re: ElGamal << lol, and let no one say that no one warned.
fluffypony can still hear the "Sega" jingle
mircea_popescu: i mean, why not at this point
fluffypony hugs the excitation
punkman: embrace the excitement, something like that
fluffypony: but hug excitation is definitely my new thing
punkman: maybe we should ask that Byrne dude
punkman: I wonder what hug excitation was before the translation
mircea_popescu: i thought you were actually setting up fonts and whatnot
danielpbarron: and to answer the question: I'm not sure.. maybe a dozen?
danielpbarron: <+mircea_popescu> lol danielpbarron how many of these trilema pics have you made so far ? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn0dwhwCYAACIRI.jpg << these don't take very long to make; i'm just doing a screen-capture of my iPhone while reading the article in Instapaper(which formats the text like that)
assbot: Hug excitation belongs to the world! Football!Bet!11bet.org IPO
mircea_popescu: im the only one that says "you don't know shit from ass" and actually means it, then ?
assbot: The Trouble With the '64 Civil Rights Act by Rep. Ron Paul
mircea_popescu: but imo that's just part of creativity.
mircea_popescu: i've known people like that.
mircea_popescu: "Dr. Alice Weaver Flaherty is a neurologist known for her award-winning book about the neural basis of creativity titled the Midnight Disease."
mircea_popescu: i swear it's how the translator in my head goes, which is why i almost never discuss bitcoin with noobs.
mircea_popescu: "i don't want to know about umbrellas because i don't like rain. also, baths are better"
fluffypony: ironically he actually holds a little stack of Bitcoin, so I ended the conversation by calling him out on that :-P
fluffypony: oh it was in the context of "which altcoin is best"
mircea_popescu: does he like the sun ?
mircea_popescu: but i mean the part where he "doesn't like it".
mircea_popescu: i guess that's a reasonable description
fluffypony: Bitcoin just shifts it from "I was born into a wealthy/connected family" to "I understood Bitcoin before most others"
fluffypony: and I said that class distinction has and will always be around
mircea_popescu: in what sort of sf universe does this hold true ? how would it ?
mircea_popescu: like, capable of thought and whatnot
mircea_popescu: there's this incomprehensible (to me) tendency to approach non-bitcoin people as if they were somehow... i dunno, almost human.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony who asked them tho ?
fluffypony: (because that worked out so well for Frei Coin)
punkman: although the new crop of "bloggers" seem barely able to write anything (see Tumblr)
fluffypony: so I had this discussion with someone the other day, they said the main reason they don't like Bitcoin is because there's no demurrage
mircea_popescu: why does this sound like "web content" ?
mircea_popescu: Waxman and Geschwind were the first to describe hypergraphia. The patients they observed displayed extensively compulsive detailed writing, sometimes with literary creativity. The patients kept diaries, which some used to meticulously document minute details of their everyday activities, write poetry, or create lists. Case 1 of their study wrote lists of her relatives, her likes and dislikes, and the furniture in her a
mircea_popescu: (in case the lemon reference isn't directly obvious : old gay men. http://www.buddyhead.com/music/bestof2005/images/gay.jpg )
punkman: I like that
punkman: "An era can be said to end when its basic illusions are exhausted."
mircea_popescu: well sure they will. this is unsurprising. so what of it.
fluffypony: and by the time they realise where the power lies it'll be too late
mircea_popescu: so if people with millions and actual lawyers do this... why shouldn't some famished internet expert / seo master / etc
fluffypony: mircea_popescu I have this suspicion that they'll keep pushing, driving "adoption" and "community" and "bitcoin 2.0"
mircea_popescu: "a psychopath", in their terms.
mircea_popescu: and they're quite happy to hate anyone who will show that difference, or they merely perceive as capable to
mircea_popescu: but that notwithstanding, inasmuch as they can't tell the difference between "it" and it they're quite happy
mircea_popescu: now they're part of "it". course the "it" they're part of is just the same thing they were part of before : a bunch of famished geeks dressing up for old lemons' pleasure
fluffypony: there's a really low barrier to entry with this
mircea_popescu: the vc circus is trying to turn bitcoin into "bitcoin", for their peace of mind